Taking my BOY back to the vet tomorrow for x-ray/RIP sweetheart

[pappilon]

If it was me I wouldn't call the other vet back.  You might say something you might regret later and also give them chance to cook up a story to cover their backs.  (Probably me just being paranoid there).  Hope BOY is feeling better and improving today

When i got home there was a message from the vet, saying he had a call from the vet  and saing i understand what happend with BOY and he understand he is getting on well at the moment! He then said me and you must have a chat in some point and many apology for confussion on his medicine? 
The last few wasnt very clear, but he says i apologize IF it was my fault or i appologize IT was my fault, and no other way to say sorry?? But he mention again BOY is ok! 
I will speak to Caroline tomorrow to see if she spoke to him or the vet in surgery and what exactly was said before calling him.

[Gillian Harvey]

Awww, it must be so hard for you to leave him  Hope the drip and medication will work soon so that he doesnt need further procedures. Fingers crossed that he keeps the food down that he ate while you were there. You and Boy are in my thoughts. 

[pappilon]

I spent an hour with Boy this evening. He doesnt eat much and when he does he vomits

I spoke to one of the vets and he said at the moment he is fine having the drip and medication but they might have to look in with a tube if he carry on getting sick but itsthe anaesthesia they are  c oncern  because they dont want to put more drugs in to him since he had the wrong tablets and steroid.

He said they are going to see how things are on thursday and if he is not better then they have to put a tube in and they can see whats happening in his stomach.

I asked the nurseto give him some dry food while i was there and he started eating it, i hope he doesnt get sick later.
I am going to see him tomorrow after work and spend some time with him, he was purring when i was there.Bless him.

[Felix (Caroline)]

I quite agree and I hope Boy is a lot better too!

[Maddiesmum]

If it was me I wouldn't call the other vet back.  You might say something you might regret later and also give them chance to cook up a story to cover their backs.  (Probably me just being paranoid there).  Hope BOY is feeling better and improving today

[sheryl]

Big hugs and cuddles for you and Boy, I really hope that he is feeling better soon and back home with you where he belongs. xxx

I would call the other vet and just stay calm and tell him that you will be taking matters further regarding the treatment that Boy received.

[pappilon]

Gill i am sure they still havent realized, about the wrong medication.

OH i think he is concern but more for loosing aclient than Boy( May be its a mean thing to say   ), but thats how i feel.

Thanks for the advise.

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

Thanks for the update and thats really good of caroline, hopefully he will start to calm down now, poor Boy.  Lets hope all the signs become good ones and hope you get a little sleep tonight 

I think your other vet is very worried about the effect this may have on him because surely he knows the wrong treatment was given  and not sure what to advise. He may be fishing or just concerned.

If you feel strong enough to be cool and calm and not answer any questions, maybe a ring back saying that Boy is very very sick and you will not know for quite a while what his prospects are. Dont answer any probing questions just keep repeating  that he is very very ill and you dont know, just like polititions do.

others may give you better advise

[pappilon]

Just a quick update, cos i want to go to bed. didnt sleep a wink last night.

They are keeping boy in at least for two more days, but Caroline said that from now on only women vets&nurses will deal with him

I got home and had a message from the old vet asking about how Boy is becos he was told today that on friday i asked his records to be faxed to another vet!

I dont know if i should call him back or not yet?   

[Kittybabe (Ruth)]

Will wait for your update hun, hope all is ok.

[Desley (booktigger)]

I am sorry you are having such a rotton time, and I hope Caroline sorts it all out, the male vet is saying odd things imo - of course cats are going to be fed up in that environment. Will be keeping you in my thoughts.

[Maddiesmum]

Poor boy and poor you.  What a rotten time you are both having.  I do hope he recovers and is home where be belongs and is loved soon.  Many hugs to you both

[pappilon]

Thankyou stuart and  every one, lets hope next week is a better one for every body, and all our babes get better.

Thats the most important thing.  

[Stuart]

Oh Pappilon, what a terrible time BOY and Yourself seem to be having I haven't anything else to add to what's already been said
But I am Sending LOTS of Healing Vibes BOYS way and Hope He is Better and Back home with you Soon
 

[pappilon]

The only thing i know he was on night duty on friday when Caroline took boy in and tonight on duty, i really dont know much  how it works. I text Caroline , she will call me in the morning.

Boy needs this treatment at the moment , i offered if they need me i can go at any time to the surgery , he mentioned Boy needs at least two more weeks of medication but if it can be given oraly then he said he will send him home but at the moment he has to have the fluied.

I speak to Caroline in the morning, she is really nice and understanding, i am sure she will tell me whats best for BOY .

[Kittybabe (Ruth)]

Caroline is her own boss. Her own business but she partners with this surgery when its necessary. She has no actual premises as she's a road vet.  She goes to you.

This surgery deals with her patients as a courtesy to her.

This vet in particular sounds like many I've dealt with. He's caring just not extremely empathetic to people.

Right now Boy is getting treatment and that's what's important. Until Pav speaks to Caroline its best to just rest the night and see what is said tomorrow.

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

I think you need to speak to Caroline and get this sorted out, I thought Boy would effectively be in her care but dont know how she works.

Who is the vet that Boy is with now, is he an emergency vet rather than one at her own practice? Or is he some kind of specialist?

[pappilon]

Maybe it will help if you tell the vet his history and it will help him to understand

Yes Gill, i started telling him but he said yes you do get cats with all different back ground but ... then he said what i said in my post. I felt he is angry because he said Boy is cCaroline paitent and we are looking after him for weekend??? But Caroline told me once he is there they will deal with him thats why i had to pay her charge and she said from now you pay them or all other treatments. I am going to go there before work in the morning i am not comfortable with this but i dont have a choice he needs this treatment.

[pappilon]

Yes Gillian thats what i tried to explain to him, but he wasnt interested!!!

THe woman nurse this morning said she calls him TRACTOR, because she has never heard loud purrs like his.

The first couple of years with me he used to sit by the front door and would not let any male in just by hissing and warning? That shows how bad he was treated in his past but he changed he is not vicious,just scared.

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

Maybe it will help if you tell the vet his history and it will help him to understand

[Gillian Harvey]

Poor Boy, its not surprising he reacted that way, given his history before he came to you, he was mistreated by a man wasnt he? perhaps he was associating the male vet this morning with his bad treatment before do you think? - as well as being prodded and poked, can't have helped. Hope your visit helped calm him down a bit. 

[Dawn (DiddyDawn)]

So sorry to hear Boy isn't too good    He will be stressed and frightened and that's probably why he attacked the vet, even the softest animal in an alien situation can react badly.  As Ruth has said, he's getting treatment now and it may take a little longer before he starts to feel the benefit.  I'll give you a bell shortly, xxxxxxxxxxxx

[Kittybabe (Ruth)]

Same as I said when we spoke earlier.  he's getting treatment now and that's important. Just hold on tight sweetie, its horrible what you're going though, but Boy needs you to be strong for him.  My phone is on all night honey, call me whenever you need to ok? xxx

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

Oh dear I am so very sorry, I think you need to speak to Caroline too cos you know your cat best and its not good for a vet to say he is vicious.

I am sure that Boy is just feeling very uncomfortable and sick and like you say he is seriously fed up of being poked around. Every cat acts like nature intended and it sounds like Boy feels he is being attacked and therefore defending himself, rather then so scared he freezes.

I am sure that Caroline will be able to diffuse this situation cos it sounds to me like the vet is scared.

I am really wishing all the good thoughts I can for Boy and this is such a terrible thing to happen 

[pappilon]

Just spoke to the vet , he has developed diarrhoea and there is blood in it, he is not  well

THE vet i spoke to was attacked by Boy this morning ,when i called to make arrangement to go and see him they asked me if i can go and hold him back so they can clean his cage. He was covered in a mess, the nurse said she thinks his had enough of poking and ... thats why he attacked the vet ! He looked really scared and when i told the vet tonight that he is just scared he said no he is a vicious cat, he said we get scared cats but they dont behave like him??? So he said its hard to treat him but since he has the drip they can put all the medication in, but tomorrow he is going to discuss it with caroline! He also said because of the wrong tablets and the last injection of steroid he's had an overdose and thats why , oh god i am so upset i post later

[sheryl]

I cannot believe this, it is terrible - poor Boy and poor you.  The worrying thing is that we put all our trust in the vets with our furbabies, they should not be allowed to get away with making a mistake like this, it makes me so cross !!!

Wishing Boy a speedy recovery and thinking of you xxx

[Felix (Caroline)]

Just read all this thread Wow what a mistake to make (its awful) going to double check all my prescriptions in future.
Hope Boy hasn't had any damaged done to him because of their BIG mistake.xx

[clarenmax]

Just catching up after a day off the site ...... I truly hope that BOY has no lasting effects from the vets dispensing the wrong treatment.  It sounds like he is in very good hands now, and very positive news that there's no kidney damage and that he's brighter now too 

As others have said, your main priority now is to get BOY better, then take up the matter formally with the vets, they should be repaying you every penny for the second lot of treatment you've had to pay for due to their error. 

[Desley (booktigger)]

As long as you have the tablets, the packaging isn't as important, there is a big difference between Synulox and Rimadyl - one is small and pink, one is large and white or brown, depending on which strength they are.

[Maddiesmum]

I think this is terrible.  Can I make a suggestion that you keep a written diary of events as this will count as evidence when and if you pursue the matter.  Also as you are worried and stressed about your cat it will be difficult, later, to remember the exact dates, times etc.  I know it sounds like extra work but it is worth it and will help you to keep a clear record.  Good luck in whatever you decide but personally, I think you should pursue it.  It was probably a genuine mistake but complaining should ensure they are more careful in the future.  Hope your cat is not permanently damaged and home with you soon.

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

Oh well just a thought......I wish I was that efficient but its just not in my nature 

[pappilon]

Gill it was no box, just a paper pack like the one they give you in boots when you collect prescription, that was on 7th Nov .

I put it in recycling box, i dont even keep receipts when i buy something!

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

What happened to the bottle or packet the tabs came in with the changed label?

[Dawn (DiddyDawn)]

At the end of the day, you have the tablets as proof.  I would think Rimadyl would show up in a blood test if it was checked for but it would have to be tested for before he went on treatment, ie before the drip.  This may still be possible if they've still got some of the bloods in the labs already, I would think they could run an extra test, not sure    Ask Caroline if this is possible, just to give a bit more ammo. but I honestly can't see what they can say.  The fact you asked about the difference in the tablets makes this  thing a whole lot worse, as far as I'm aware, Synulux is one type of tablet, end of.  Get Boy sorted first but also get as much evidence as you can as some may be needed from the bloods before they are disposed of if they haven't disposed of them already, then you go through the relevant channels and make sure that this doesn't happen to anyone else.  I always feel in cases like this to do with animals health etc, if you let it slide, the next animal might not be so lucky and even then they may not get their  whooped because it may be a first complaint.  Negligence is negligence but sadly it doesn't always work like that.

[Millys Mum]

This is an area that i think should be changed similar to the human dispensing regulations, everyones capable of human error be you a pharmacist or a vet so should be under the same controls.

I hope Boy is home again soon 

[pappilon]

Yes Dawn but the only prove i have is the two tablets left, the copy of the bill shows they charged me for Synulox and how can i prove i spoke to the nurse the same day i collected the tablets and she said they are fine and even told me is good you checked!!!!

Its not going to show on BOY'S system after 2 weeks? Or is it?

EVen last night when i showed Caroline she kept asking are you sure and first she said may be the first lot you collect was Synulox? I explained that i collected once and it was 22 tablets for 10 days and 1 extra day in case he misses some.

In their computer the priscription is for Synulox thats why the vet hasnt realized yet the mistake they have made.

I just dont know how all these works, i know once they are told they will realize their mistake but to accept it, i dont know, right now i am so worried for BOY i cant think , but then may be i should tell them so they can get in touch with the person whos dog was suppose to have these tablets and see if he got the right tablets? Their dog might be in danger if they took the wrong one but if they got replacement then surgery must be short when they do stock check?   I just want to do the right think.

[Dawn (DiddyDawn)]

Definitely contact the RCVS but be warned, vets do tend to stick together and a lot do get away with it.  My vet did but he did get a wrist slapping as it was a first complaint against him.  When this happens, if someone else reports that particualar vet, then they do tend to do something.  I can't see with this case though how they can wriggle out of it, it is definitely a case of incompetance, no excuses whereas with mine, he gave them a load of  but I never received a bill and the RCVS said, this in a way proved his guilt!!

[Desley (booktigger)]

Fingers crossed that he will be fine, and I would certainly report them - I would write them a letter, as well as write to the RCVS.

[Dawn (DiddyDawn)]

I agree with BC, this needs to be put in writing to the vets concerned and this will make them aware that this has to be taken seriously.  Even if Boy recovers 100% from this, you still need to take action, this is not good enough as they are putting lives in danger.  I put a complaint in once against one of my vets, ideally you need to do it when you are calm and thinking straight.........I threatened to rip my vets head off but that's not really the way to go about it    When putting it in writing, even if you are on first name terms with your vet, address it to Mr Jones or whoever, not by their first name, this is keeping it professional and shows you mean business.  Give Boy a cuddle for me, I'm sending him positive vibes and get well wishes, xxxxxx

[pappilon]

Thanks Gillian last night was so late and i didnt think of that, but tomorrow i will take my jumper but the think is he like leather hand bags!

Every time i put my bag down he rush and get to it and start licking it and purrs

I spoke to the vet who is there to day he said he had something to eat and they are going to stop the anti sickness injection now but he said it

takes up to 3 weeks to show if any damaged has been done to his kidneys or not?   I told him Caroline said his kidneys are ok, and he said yes

for now but we have to wait and see , the side effects might show later. He also has lost more weight since wednesday .

Well at the moment we just have to concentrate on him, he has to stay few more days , they dont want to stop the drip and fluied yet, and the flat is empty without him,i know Phoebe doesnt miss him at all but i do