Topic: How can this cruelty be classed as ART !!! - Warning: Cruelty (Read 28009 times)

Michelle (furbabystar) · « **Reply #35 on:** November 12, 2007, 18:43:18 PM »

http://www.petitiononline.com/13031953/

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #34 on:** November 12, 2007, 18:21:52 PM »

I agree with you Ruth.

The petiton and the translation we were getting was a valuable thing and I think it should be reposted.

Sorry Dawn I dont agree and I will not look at the stuff RSPCA does either cos most is just there as a shock thing.

I also do not agree that the majority are being dictated to by the few, in fact I think its the other way round. It is quite easy to stop all the shock horror that upsets so many by putting a link..........so why isnt this being done?

Kittybabe (Ruth) · « **Reply #33 on:** November 12, 2007, 18:01:55 PM »

Let's turn this thread around peeps. Michelle, please could you post the link again? I think it was valuable as a petition and I am sure if anyone wants to read it the warning in the title will be clear enough that they can choose whether or not to read it. Let's get back to the purpose of this forum peeps.

hOrZa · « **Reply #32 on:** November 12, 2007, 17:59:12 PM »

Its about how people can even when told not to look if easily upset still look get upset and then dictate to the rest of us

Yvonne · « **Reply #31 on:** November 12, 2007, 17:57:45 PM »

Why has the title to this thread been changed??

Nobody will know what it is about now.

hOrZa · « **Reply #30 on:** November 12, 2007, 17:57:08 PM »

once again the minority are dictating to the majority, once this thread is closed then they can pretend the problem isn't there.

ginge66 · « **Reply #29 on:** November 12, 2007, 17:53:52 PM »

Although I was shocked by the picture it prompted me to sign the petition.

Cannot believe how evil man can be sometimes!!

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #28 on:** November 12, 2007, 17:52:55 PM »

Quote from: Gill (sneakiefeline) on November 12, 2007, 17:18:14 PM

Dawn the thread was started absolutley correctly and as it was a petition against cruelty then Michelle was so right not to post the picture and how can we sign a petition if we cant look at a thread cos a link can be used to see the cruelty if thats what people need but others would like to be able to sign and do not need visual stimulus to do this.

I can understand what you're saying Gill but as far as the picture that Mark posted, it's no worse than any you would see on an advert for the RSPCA or similar on TV or in the vets.

Yvonne · « **Reply #27 on:** November 12, 2007, 17:25:07 PM »

This is so awful, did this really happen??

I have signed the petition.

doggy - you are in a better place now.

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #26 on:** November 12, 2007, 17:18:14 PM »

Dawn the thread was started absolutley correctly and as it was a petition against cruelty then Michelle was so right not to post the picture and how can we sign a petition if we cant look at a thread cos a link can be used to see the cruelty if thats what people need but others would like to be able to sign and do not need visual stimulus to do this.

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #25 on:** November 12, 2007, 17:14:55 PM »

I was happy with what you did Michelle and I think you did it the correct way, its somebody else who has added to the thrtead that has caused the problem

Michelle (furbabystar) · « **Reply #24 on:** November 12, 2007, 17:12:44 PM »

NOW MY TURN TO GET THE HUMP

I put a WARNING ICON in the message
I put what the subject was about so nobody got a surprise when they opened the thread

WHAT MORE CAN I DO ???

Jasmine ,
So tell me - if you didnt like the nature of the thread WHY did you open it ?

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #23 on:** November 12, 2007, 17:07:50 PM »

I will change the title of the thread now Gill. The sad thing is in a lot of cruelty, horrible as it is, the message doesn't always hit home with a lot of people unless they see pictures.........a picture makes the animal in question real and people are then compelled to do something about it.

I feel that it's a shame that the forum is coming to this, we have now lost another member who I personally think is an asset to the forum. I would have thought the Triangle and the title should be enough to deter peeps from looking if they feel they will find it too upsetting.

Tan · « **Reply #22 on:** November 12, 2007, 17:02:05 PM »

Quote from: Christine (Blip) on November 12, 2007, 16:18:40 PM

Quote from: Jasmine on November 12, 2007, 16:00:11 PM
'please help the members decide wether or not to read the thread by popping a cruelty warning and avoid including any description of the actual cruelty in the title of your post.'

above are Tan's words regarding cruelty posts, why is this being ignored?

Jasmine you make a good point. But you can see the difficulty we have as some people (like me) are distressed beyond belief by these things but others feel censored if they cannot draw attention to them to prevent their recurrence.

Thanks hun this is exactly why we have the warning symbols, a buddy list and a new board in now.

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #21 on:** November 12, 2007, 17:00:56 PM »

This was said at the beginning of the thread which had a traingle and I was fine with that but like Christine I think the picture should be removed as the original poster who made the thread said this:

I WILL NOT POST THE PICS AS VERY UPSETTING

http://www.petitiononline.com/13031953/

Now that someone has deemed themselves to portray and act which was not intended will someone kindly change the title to say the picture is now in because I find this outside the the rules .

I wash my hands of the people who are intent of turning this forum into a side show , I have not censored anything but if you want mods and admin not to be able to look at petition threads because you insist on adding something that the thread originator deliberately did not show, well congratulations cos I for one will not be looking at them.

I do not like being called ridiculous because I am against the showing of unnecessary pictures of cruelty, this in my opinion is degrading both for the animal and also for the viewer.

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #20 on:** November 12, 2007, 16:45:21 PM »

Thanks Tan

Tan · « **Reply #19 on:** November 12, 2007, 16:44:23 PM »

This thread has a warning and an approreate title now so please do not come in if you find it upsetting.

There is a petition to sign so it's something that we maybe able to help with.

Jasmine · « **Reply #18 on:** November 12, 2007, 16:23:55 PM »

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #17 on:** November 12, 2007, 16:22:13 PM »

Quote from: Jasmine on November 12, 2007, 16:17:59 PM

Please will someone have the courtesy to respond, I find this post upsetting, why aren't the board guidelines as stipulated by Tan being adhered to?

If you give me chance, I will alter it.

MODIFIED TO ADD

It's been altered.

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #16 on:** November 12, 2007, 16:21:33 PM »

Quote from: Jasmine on November 12, 2007, 16:11:57 PM

Dawn, as a moderator on this board, could you please answer my question?

Thanks

Sorry Jasmine, the thread has a triangle warning which will signify the post will be upsetting. The title can be altered to take out the act of cruelty, I'll do that now for you.

Christine (Blip) · « **Reply #15 on:** November 12, 2007, 16:18:40 PM »

Quote from: Jasmine on November 12, 2007, 16:00:11 PM

'please help the members decide wether or not to read the thread by popping a cruelty warning and avoid including any description of the actual cruelty in the title of your post.'

above are Tan's words regarding cruelty posts, why is this being ignored?

Jasmine you make a good point. But you can see the difficulty we have as some people (like me) are distressed beyond belief by these things but others feel censored if they cannot draw attention to them to prevent their recurrence.

Jasmine · « **Reply #14 on:** November 12, 2007, 16:17:59 PM »

Please will someone have the courtesy to respond, I find this post upsetting, why aren't the board guidelines as stipulated by Tan being adhered to?

Christine (Blip) · « **Reply #13 on:** November 12, 2007, 16:15:37 PM »

It is truly disgusting. I rather suspect that the perpetrator is relishing his notoriety, unfortunately.

I would be inclined to remove the picture of the poor poor dog and post up a link, myself. I don't believe it's a question of censorship, it's just that the picture is so very upsetting, particularly for any youngsters who may be reading.

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #12 on:** November 12, 2007, 16:14:02 PM »

Quote from: Gill (sneakiefeline) on November 12, 2007, 13:16:13 PM

mark we didnt need a picture

I think the picture is appropiate, I know it's not nice but we can't keep burying our heads in the sand.........this goes on, has gone on and will continue going on as long as people pretend it's not happening and do nothing about it.

Sorry Gill but I agree with Mark.

Jasmine · « **Reply #11 on:** November 12, 2007, 16:11:57 PM »

Dawn, as a moderator on this board, could you please answer my question?

Thanks

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #10 on:** November 12, 2007, 16:07:38 PM »

I had this through a few weeks ago as well

........he is a sorry excuse for a human, scum of the earth and as far as I'm concerned, the one's that attended the art exhibition and stood by and did nothing are just as guilty, I hope they all rot

Jasmine · « **Reply #9 on:** November 12, 2007, 16:00:11 PM »

'please help the members decide wether or not to read the thread by popping a cruelty warning and avoid including any description of the actual cruelty in the title of your post.'

above are Tan's words regarding cruelty posts, why is this being ignored?

Michelle (furbabystar) · « **Reply #8 on:** November 12, 2007, 15:31:04 PM »

THIS IS WHAT I MANAGED TO TRANSLATE - IF ANYONE CAN DO IT BETTER PLEASE POST IT

It is inadmissible that the rights of the animals are trampled thus and that the "artist" had gathered it from the street to allow it to die moored with a rope to the wall of the galer Ã - to when it had the opportunity not to do it or even to save it.

“SegÃºn I knew to the dog muriÃ ³ to dÃa following by lack of food. During inauguraciÃ ³ n I knew that the dog was persecuted in the evening between the houses of aluminum and cartÃ ³ n of a district of Managua with santo name who Habacuc that could not need at the moment. 5 niÃ±os of which they helped in the capture received 10 bonds of cÃ ³ rdobas by his colaboraciÃ ³ n. During exhibiciÃ ³ n some people requested the freedom of the small dog, to which Ã©l artist rehusÃ ³. The name of the dog was (it was) Natividad, and I let myself to him die of at sight hunger of all, as if the death of a poor dog was a show mediÃ tico impertinent in whom nobody does nothing mÃ s that to applaud or to watch disturbed. “

We can do nothing for this dog but if to treat of that the organizers of the Biennial Central American Honduras 2008 do not admit this "artist" maltratador of animals. I request you adhere to the above mentioned request and that you spread m Ã: s that you is possible this shameful act to gather the m Ã: ximo of signatures and to veto it in the biennial one.

OK NOW GILL ????????????

Michelle (furbabystar) · « **Reply #7 on:** November 12, 2007, 14:22:46 PM »

Quote from: Gill (sneakiefeline) on November 12, 2007, 12:26:05 PM

Looks like its Spanish or Portugese.

I will not sign something I cannot understand cos it could be saying anything.

I will try and find somewhere on the net to translate it -

Kittybabe (Ruth) · « **Reply #6 on:** November 12, 2007, 13:26:53 PM »

It's spanish in the Honduras. Sick. Sick. Sick.

Mark · « **Reply #5 on:** November 12, 2007, 13:21:58 PM »

You remove it Gill, this is my last post on here as I am sick of your ridiculous censoring.

Mark · « **Reply #4 on:** November 12, 2007, 12:54:02 PM »

Here's some proof - what a sick piece of scum this so called "artist" is

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #3 on:** November 12, 2007, 12:26:05 PM »

Looks like its Spanish or Portugese.

I will not sign something I cannot understand cos it could be saying anything.

Sam (Fussy_Furball) · « **Reply #2 on:** November 12, 2007, 12:21:26 PM »

Are you serious ???? This is disgusting and the person involved should be locked up!

I have signed the petition (Not sure what language it is in though).

Michelle (furbabystar) · « **Reply #1 on:** November 12, 2007, 12:12:03 PM »

Please sign this petition to stop this happening agian.

A dog was tried up and left to look at a Food - left there until he died !
This was done in the name of ART

Link is futher down on page 2

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