Private PM List for items that can't be posted due to content?

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

I would like to see only the serious onces with  health , rescue or petiton reason on Purrs with a warning symbol, I dont want to have to wade through loads of so called cats in distress and we want a reaction threads.

[Desley (booktigger)]

I think it should be done on a warning system, doing it by pm is just going a bit too far towards a 'nanny state' for my liking, and I think we should all be adult enough to have the choice of whether to read something or not - I dont read as much as i would like, as not all the links show up in my e-mail notification, and I have to be careful how much I read at work, but I dont want that taken away from me, but I also dont want tons of pms.
In regards to YouTube vids, I think there shoudl be some guidelines, I dont mind watching the genuine ones that could help people, but very few of the ones I have seen posted on here have been like that, the rest have all been more what the owner found funny.

[Tiggy's Mum]

I say warning symbol - have to agree with Dawn, if people don't wish to read the thread or click on the links (as I often don't as am very sensitive when it comes to animals) then they have nothing to be concerned about.  Those that wish to discuss that particular thread can do so safe in the knowledge that any more sensitive members won't be distressed by the content.

[Tan]

Great we have both now so what system would you all like .... a list or a warning with new warning symbol  

Lol Mark excellent and yes we do do pizza  but it comes with cat hair topping

[Mark]

Well who is going to do the poll? 

[Tiggy's Mum]

I'm all for going on a buddies list but still think it's OTT.  If there is a warning in the title, if people choose to look, surely that's down to them and not the person who posted and they have no right complaining   

But I agree with the comment by Christine "posts that gratuitously and willfully break the forum rules, simply to attract attention, are something else entirely."

Couldn't agree more, if you open a newspaper you might see articles that distress or upset you the choice is simple - don't read them.  If there is a warning system on the threads then people can choose to do just that.

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

Yes as the base icon and if first post was yours you can add it now 

[Mark]

Just wanted to see what it looks like 

But obviously will only show if its added on the 1st post   

[Mark]

Mines a chinese curry ,,,,,,,chicken please 

mmmmm with chinese chips 

I'm starving - OH is working "late" - I asked if I should eat - "don't know - I will phone later" - here I am starving. I've had 2 slices of toast with jam and 3 hot cross buns - oh and a banana - all day  - and I've been working hard so not enough  - now mobile isn't being answered 

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh its by your post   

[Soxey's Mummy]

Mark if you do do the list thing and not the warning on a thread approach I'd like to be included, just found and read the article you mention a bit of an extreme comment from a doctor but have to say unfortunately there are several article out there that try to make themselves credible through "expert" comment, sometime think it makes a mockery of a tragic situation or serious discussion

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

Mines a chinese curry ,,,,,,,chicken please 

[Mark]

Do you deliver pizza too? 

[Tan]

OK you also can now pop a warning icon by your post by selecting the yellow triangle in the message icon drop down list.
 

[Mark]

Thanks Tan & Chappie 

[Dawn (DiddyDawn)]

I'm all for going on a buddies list but still think it's OTT.  If there is a warning in the title, if people choose to look, surely that's down to them and not the person who posted and they have no right complaining   

But I agree with the comment by Christine "posts that gratuitously and willfully break the forum rules, simply to attract attention, are something else entirely."

[Tan]

  Ok Chappie has installed a buddy list thingy 

In your profile you will see "edit your buddies list"  Here you can add members names.  When you log on,  the bottom who's online list will tell you if any of ya buddies are online too and how many.

To send all your buddies a pm at the same time -
Go to the "new message" option in your pm menu,
click the "!" button next to the "To" field
Check the box next to "Show buddies only"
Enter a * (star symbol)  in the search box and hit enter
When the search results are returned, simply click on the name of each buddie that you want to send the message to - the name will automatically be inserted into the box.
 

So you can now send pm's to certain people from a list

[Christine (Blip)]

i agrree with t, there is the serious stuff and the stuff that is posted to make either fun of a cat or any other animal when its in distress.

 i would like to see the serious stuff posted with appropriate warning and the unfunny stuff not posted at all

I agree completely.

Potentially distressing items that, however, have a serious educational content or a call to action are one thing and should be welcomed; posts that gratuitously and willfully break the forum rules, simply to attract attention, are something else entirely.

A warning symbol on the serious items will help to deter the inappropriate ones.

 

[Mark]

Was this the same guy that wrote that cats are devils blog??? 
He was saying he would like to alter the genes that make cats what they are and turn then into dolls really.
as cats want to "kill children" 
I thought all that stuf went out in the 1600's 

No this is a research doctor in America - even more scary 

[ccmacey]

the things that make them not want to kill our children but play with them." 

Was this the same guy that wrote that cats are devils blog??? 

One thing I'd like to discover is the genes for good behaviour in the cats - the genes for domestication

Does he mean why cats have become domesticated or cats are naughty and need domesticating more?

Whats this add to buddy list in our profiles? Is its Marks list? 

Can I make it clear that I have not complained about anything or asked for anything to be deleted other that having that little moan the other day.

Right I'm zipped from now on. 

[Mark]

I still think some people will miss out on important issues but it's their privilege. The thing I found earlier today that we won't talk about  , had a comment at the end from a qualified doctor in America he said and I quote "One thing I'd like to discover is the genes for good behaviour in the cats - the genes for domestication, the things that make them not want to kill our children but play with them." 

This is a qualified doctor talking. Scary  - These people need watching and taking to task.

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

i agrree with t, there is the serious stuff and the stuff that is posted to make either fun of a cat or any other animal when its in distress.

 i would like to see the serious stuff posted with appropriate warning and the unfunny stuff not posted at all and maybe marks list idea to be used.

tan is right that some are more sensitive than others and i wouldnt look at the stuff with a warning unless there was some action we were taking, say petition or rescue or transport but the thread title needs also to be careful and not too explicit cos we have some who have complained about the explicit titles.

i know we cannot please everyone but if we could come to a sensible comprimise then i think all will be much happier and like mark says bickering on the threads would have to stop once the formula has been agreed.....................i mean  that we stop bickering now lol.

i think this is a good idea put forward by mark and if we can sort of get it halfway then we hopefully are on the right track 

[Millys Mum]

MM, try bacon flavoured quorn.

  i cant stand artifically flavoured fake bacon, its too chemical and also repeats like hell 
Probably get cancer from the additives 

[ccmacey]

The thing that annoys me is the fact that poor creatures who deserve the utmost love and respect are filmed purely for entertainment value. I can understand a film for educational reasons
Cats have feelings too.

I could not of said it better myself.

This is what I dont like about these video's, people make them so other people can have a laugh at their cat, what sort of person wants people to laugh at their cat if they truely love them?

So I think it's the "owners" that make them is what really  me off.

[Hippykitty]

MM, try bacon flavoured quorn.

[Millys Mum]

Il join the list. I find reading about such things is what motivates me to try and make a difference.

I stopped being a vege a few years ago but reading on PETAs website soon changed me again.
The odd time i crave a bacon sarnie i just look at the poor pigs  

[Ela]

Up to now we have not found much that is really sickening, and thinking about it why would anyone on Purrs want to post something that  is, as has been said what one finds sickening/upsetting  another won't so if someone is of the won't brigade they may not put a warning on anyway as to them it is perfectly acceptable.

[Hippykitty]

What about having a warning triangle for those threads containing potentially upsetting content; or a separate 'department' called something like "Caution: these threads may upset"?

Trolls are easily spotted. Anyone who reads these thread for a Tussauds Chamber of Horrors would be quickly identified.

On the other hand, PMing known and trusted members of Purrs who subscribe to the list is probably safest, though not the easiest way of doing this.

[Tan]

Na Karma is no good as its a member rating thing (no want that!!  )

will have a look tonight if we can find something to add to the pm menu's in profiles that will do a buddy list. 

[Tan]

Hmm good one Leigh, i will look. It does have something called Karma so will check it out 

[LeighK]

Hi Tan,

Does the forum software support a "buddies" list function or similar? in which case it might be possible to setup a distribution list which would make PMing multiple recipients a lot easier. Personally I'm not desirous of joining such a list but can see the sense in doing things this way.

Cheers

Leigh

[Kittybabe (Ruth)]

I do prefer the warning in the title. I don't read threads if I know they will upset me and unless the thread is reported I often don't go in.

It's tough to moderate and keep a happy medium. I like the "happy" stuff as much as the next person, and enjoy the serious threads as well, provided members are cordial to one another. There will be disagreements naturally, that is of course what individual opinion is about. But that's what PM is for in those instances, so that the purpose of the thread does not dissipate under the ensuing argument it turns into. 

[Tan]

Thats a good idea Mark lad and i agree with all said here.

It wasn't straight forward trying to think of a way for all members about the posts that can upset. My thinking was - What level do diff people see as cruel and upsetting? (for me it can seem cruel just to simply ignore your babes   you know how soft i am   I, as a member, don't  like to view these links but also want to give members with a different opinion the choice too.  If we stopped these posts would that mean the rescue's cant post about a cruelty case or if there is a cat in urgent need in a cruel situation that a post for help can't be posted cause it included cruelty and can upset?  I could forsee that if we said to stop all "cruel" posts would that mean the rescues get complained about if they posted about a cruel case?  It would be unfair to have one rule for rescues and one for others about these posts.  It's so awful and sad that it's because of the cruelty to cats that purrs is here and esp the rescues , they see it everyday and thank god there are angels like them to save the cats.   Is it right to stop all upsetting posts on Purrs when the rescues have to face it all the time?

All this when into my thinking of how do i get the balance right to satisfy everyones opinions and senitivity? I thought i cracked it by asking for anything that could possibly upset any members to make sure they are warned in the title. That way those who dont want to read about the bad stories are warned and can aviod the thread.  I don't know another way other than to post strict rules on what is "cruel" and what isn't and that is impossible to do with so many diff opinions of "cruel and upsetting"  We all know that stuff so bad is def not right to post here and none of us would, except if we had a troll that came here purely to upset us who would be banned.

 I can easily make mistakes myself  on what i think is best thing to do.  I would love your thoughts on it.  

[Teresa Pawcats]

The thing that annoys me is the fact that poor creatures who deserve the utmost love and respect are filmed purely for entertainment value. I can understand a film for educational reasons and am not squeamish in any way,the film of the two headed kitten did not serve any educational purpose whatsoever,A few years ago I actually had to help a cat deliver horrifically deformed kittens and I dont mean normal deformities their short lives were treated with dignity and respect and they weren`t turned into a freak show.

Cats have feelings too.

[Ela]

Perhaps a good idea you have Mark, I personally  have enough to worry about with what I have to deal with daily. But I appreciate others may be interested what is going on in the world. Obviously I do add my name to the various petitions if it involves cruelty to animals anywhere in the world.

[Mark]

Well I for one would be happy to have warning titles and anyone opens them "at their own risk" but can't whinge about them on the thread. Apart from anything else, it detracts from the original subject and ends up something else completely (which is the case on most threads really  )

[Christine (Blip)]

I don't think that serious discussion items like that are ever a problem - as you all rightly say, if people know that such threads are going to upset them, they do not have to read them.  The only thing is that folks - understandably - can get heated when discussing emotive subjects.

Just my twopennyworth as a member...

[Mark]

I vote flamingo 

Yuk - I hate pink 
Reminds me of disgusting pink custard at school 

[Mark]

OK - its about cats that are being bred in New Zealand to have degenerative diseases so they can be studied for cures for human illnesses   (why cats & not criminals?)  There was a photo of a lovely healthy cat but you know his future.

I won't PM anyone this time  but just google "cat news" IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE ITEM  and you will see it at the top


PS - The article is on a NZ website but its actually America where it is happening.

[Cheesecat]

I vote flamingo 

And add me to the list