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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #80 on: February 13, 2008, 01:14:36 AM »
I know Dawn, look at his back and front legs  :( I always look at them and think they used to be white and clean but him living rough it changed to be brown and he does look mucky :'( I do wish some one with experiance could help me to catch him and show him that there is a good life out here, if only i could catch him! As you can see he gets so close sometimes that i can touch him and he sits next to me if i get to spend time with him . He even gets so comfortable at times he tries to sit on his side and be sweet and rolls on his back and purrs, he loves a fuss and he asks for it . I am hoping that once the weather is better i can spend time sitting on staires again and get back his trust  , its so hard with my back problem to reach him under the cars , but i know i am to soft and i wont be able to get him to traps.sigh...I feed him well and in order to catch him he has to be hungry to go to trap!I have tried for few nights and didnt work as you all know.

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #79 on: February 13, 2008, 00:43:47 AM »
Awww Pav, that top piccie is a tear jerker, he looks so mucky bless him   :'(  :'(  :'(  I really hope this year is going to be a good year for him and you manage to coax him indoors  :hug:  :hug:  I just so wish I lived closer so I could help you catch him  :(
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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #78 on: February 13, 2008, 00:39:19 AM »
 Few weeks back i managed to get close to MR TRAMP and took few pictures i thought i post them, since he managed to go through this christmas cold and lonely  :( but there is always next one to come so i thought is nice to remember how hard it is for cats like him out there.

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #77 on: November 20, 2007, 08:07:50 AM »
Aww, it is sad that he is living outside, but at least he has humans looking out for him, feeding him and providing him shelter, they arne't all that lucky.
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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #76 on: November 19, 2007, 23:05:39 PM »
I know its sad, one day i went to check and he was fast sleep on concrete and the tears just poured down my face , but i think the reason he has chosen this place is becos the caravan is parked there and seems it hasnt been moved for long time and becos is very low it wont get wet ,also  no one can see him!

IT breaks my heart every time i see him thereand then my cats are living such a luxuary life, i just pray he moves in to this little house,

tomorrow i am going to get him some snuggle safe, i checked zooplus but they dont have any. :hug:

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #75 on: November 19, 2007, 22:47:04 PM »
My my what a sad home he has but to him its probably the best home he has ever had  :(

Now he knows he also has a regular dinner and a human who looks after him, even if he doesnt quite understand. I am so pleased you care about Mr Tramp cos he makes me feel quite sad.  :hug:

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #74 on: November 19, 2007, 22:39:51 PM »
Gill he stays under the caravan parked only nine doors away from us, i followed him one morning and then went back few times,he lives there  :(

last week we went and put some carbord and small carpet under the caravan and last night my neighbour helped me to make a bed out of fruit&veg box with some water proof blanket which is used for picnic and a towel and we left it there for him , so it might protect him a bit from the cold, and we can change it every few days but we have to do this when is dark, so the people wont notice. I am not sure if the people in that house like cats or not, i know they feed the pigeons , there are so many in their front garden and MR TRAMP has a perfect view , i guess he watch them all day :) Bless him.

I just went and sprayed cat nip in the little house and left some dry food, he might come later :wish:, just want to get him through the winter.


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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #73 on: November 19, 2007, 22:17:22 PM »
Oh yes I forgot about the door grrrrrrr, a cat flap would be the answer but that wouldnt work.

I wonder where he goes when its wet like it is?

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #72 on: November 19, 2007, 22:10:35 PM »
Well the rain gets in becos of the front where the door is suppose to be, but i cant put the door then he cant get in?

J my neighbour brought a brick and left it undernrath and long wood, dont know why? I am useless in DIY :-[, i am going to ask her later what is suppose to do?

Its pouring down out , even under the cars are wet so i dont think he comes tonight aswell :(, i try to sort something tomorrow or ask Ruth , sis to help she is really good with these things.

I am going to put some blanket in for tonight in case.  :thanks: every one

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #71 on: November 19, 2007, 21:08:46 PM »
I wonder if you got some of that roofing stuff and cover it completely with it, top bottom sides and back, making sure all over laps are in the right place, that should do it.

You would have to make dur you dry it our first though.

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #70 on: November 19, 2007, 19:33:09 PM »
Pav knock at my sis's. You know she'll have an idea how to make it sound.

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #69 on: November 19, 2007, 19:21:25 PM »
Thats a shame - is there any way you can insulate the roof and sides a bit?
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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #68 on: November 19, 2007, 19:00:18 PM »
Well the house is not as good as i thought , i went to check it earlier and its wet inside :-:, The rain gets in to it, so i dont think its suitable for him or others. sigh.

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« Reply #67 on: November 19, 2007, 13:45:46 PM »
Thanks, i am going to put the food right outside the house and i have sprayed feliway on the beddings,last night he didnt come it was raining really hard and if its wet tonight and he comes i have to feed him under the car, i am not sure if it works there are few cats around here at nights and if one of them take over the house then there is no chance he moves in, but lets see.

Yes Ruth, it was J, its not a cat cabin its just a wooden small house looks like small version of a guinea-pig pen :-:, but in front has small entry.

its perfect becos as you know its not much space outside the flat, it seemed like a good idea .

I just went to zoo plus site but they dont have any snuggle safe or heated beds? I am going to try the pet shop tomorrow to see if they can order for me.
Boy is been very sick , and i have to take him back to the vet so i have to sort out the heating tomorrow ;), Thankyou for the advise. :hug:

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #66 on: November 19, 2007, 00:56:57 AM »
It may be worth putting his food just inside the doorway and he maybe think  ;D this is alright and move in  :Luv:  When I was trying to encourage Tiger to use his kennel and Wendy house, I used lots of Catnip spray and nice fleecy blankets.    I used to also put bits of chicken etc, things I knew he couldn't resist just inside the door way so he had to go inside to get it.  It took him a while to realise this was all for him but he got there in the end  :Luv2:  With the heated bed, you can either buy a heated one or use a Snuggle Safe, these stay warm for I think up to 8 hours so may be ideal for him.  I hope you manage to get him soon bless him  :hug:

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2007, 00:53:12 AM »
Pavvy try the snugglesafe pads for him. Was this J over the way? Did she buy a katkabin finally?

I bought one for Lexy at Pets at Home, but maybe other sites like Zooplus will have some you can order?

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« Reply #64 on: November 18, 2007, 23:25:11 PM »
Thats a panacur favourite, it doesnt cover the flea tapeworm tho which is the most common type.

I would ask around the houses and see where hes going. You could also offer him something and feed him near to it, eg an old hutch and he may choose that. You can get heat pads that last some hours if he does take up residence.
I havent managed to trap MR TRAMP yet , but a neighbour called me last week at work telling me how she has found this beautifull home to put out side for her cat in summer and the way she discribed it i thought putting this out i wont be upsetting others!!? So i asked her to order one for him. Today i have the home i dont know how i can encourage him to get in to it but mean while can you tell me where i can buy heath pads, it just may work if he realize its a nice warm place to snooze when no one is around and then i can think of traping him?? Thankyou.

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2007, 09:25:35 AM »
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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #62 on: November 02, 2007, 20:44:11 PM »
One more question? Do you think if i put serene-um drops in his food it might calm him down a bit?

I ordered it last week for Phoebe but hasnt tried it yet?

Also tonight i managed to brush him again, but then while he was eating this ginger cat called Flyn came to share his food(Flyn was adopted from the same rescue i got Phoebe, thats why i know him. Also he lives in a different area but he is always around  here??) , so he disturbed everything...... >:(

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #61 on: November 02, 2007, 20:18:12 PM »
The only problem is lf i have to keep him in a trap over night the litter tray wont fit in there?

I have found with my trap that a kitten litter tray will fit inside and I usually put a blanket in one end as well.  If you do put a blanket in etc, be careful and only pull the end up slightly otherwise he'll escape.  Good luck, I'm keeping everything crossed that you manage to get him, xxx

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« Reply #60 on: November 02, 2007, 18:50:45 PM »
Yes MM i am going to collect the trap tomorrow morning, the only problem is i went to my vet today and he will be there only on sunday he is the one who said he will come in at anytime to take him in, i was told if i catch him tomorrow and dont want to wait till sunday then i can take him to the joining vet which works with them called all pets? But i dont want to becos i have a very bad experiance with the vet which was on call last year xmas time when he PTS my DD :(, I pefer my own vet.

The only problem is lf i have to keep him in a trap over night the litter tray wont fit in there?

Also tomorrow is the fire work night so he even might not come :Crazy:

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #59 on: November 02, 2007, 16:30:32 PM »
I would let him go in the trap, if you try to pick him up and he struggles and escapes you may lose your chance  ;)
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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #58 on: November 01, 2007, 23:38:08 PM »
I do hope Mr Tramp is OK  :hug:

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« Reply #57 on: November 01, 2007, 22:31:01 PM »
oooh yes Ruth, i heard your sis talking to Pippa earlier on ;D it sounded serious ;) (naughty girl), Pippa's respond was  :innocent:., and then she told me what happened , i said its ok Pippa is only a baby and there are worse things she could do like climbing the curtains :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
And then your sis went to make sure Pippa eats her dinner :Luv:

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #56 on: November 01, 2007, 22:18:53 PM »
Good luck with him.
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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #55 on: November 01, 2007, 22:16:57 PM »
Yes get the trap anyway so we have some chance  ;) 

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« Reply #54 on: November 01, 2007, 22:14:45 PM »
I'll be round Saturday hun, to see my sis, and the other sis is coming round too. Between us we can try see if we can temp him during the day, and if not the evening. I'll hang around to help out ok?  :hug:
That would be great , thankyou so much. I even asked Jane tonight if she is around to help??? I know...
But if you help then i wont need the trap, i get it tomorrow just in case .xxx

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #53 on: November 01, 2007, 22:03:32 PM »
Bless him, I really hope he's okay  :ahh:  Let us know how he gets on and you have my number now if you want to bell me for a chat, xxxxxxx

Ideally if he's not too good, it would be worth trying to get him indoors until he's at least better.
OH Dawn defenetly if he is not well or he needs to be on medication then i will keep him in, i do have the carrier which opens from top its the old wired one i had to ask rescue to let me keep it becos of Phoebe , there was no way she get or any one can put her in a normal one!!!! Thankyou xxx

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #52 on: November 01, 2007, 21:09:04 PM »
If you have a top loading carrier, this may be easier to get him in  ;)

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #51 on: November 01, 2007, 21:07:48 PM »
PS: did my sis tell you what she got home to today? Pippa discovered the toilet paper and pulled a whole brand new roll off the roll... a nice pyramid was waiting for her when she got home  :evillaugh:  Terror. No wonder Phoebe gets stressed by her!

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« Reply #50 on: November 01, 2007, 21:06:32 PM »
I'll be round Saturday hun, to see my sis, and the other sis is coming round too. Between us we can try see if we can temp him during the day, and if not the evening. I'll hang around to help out ok?  :hug:

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #49 on: November 01, 2007, 21:05:30 PM »
Bless him, I really hope he's okay  :ahh:  Let us know how he gets on and you have my number now if you want to bell me for a chat, xxxxxxx

Ideally if he's not too good, it would be worth trying to get him indoors until he's at least better.
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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #48 on: November 01, 2007, 21:02:44 PM »
Ruth lets see how things go? To night around 7 as i went out to see if he has come he was there and next thing he came to me! Meowing and rubbing his face to those gasmeter boxes, so i sat and he kept putting his head in my hand so i srtarted scratching his ear and head and he tried to purr :Luv: but it was like heavy breathing as if he has cold? I dont know how to explain , so i came in and got him food and treats and boy's brush and i managed to go through his coat its really in a bad condition i managed to brush him but its badly matted and when he started to eat he didnt like me to brush him any more, he finished his food but wouldnt go as he usually does, so i sat with him and he just wanted me to touch him and i started going through his coat with my fingers ,for last 2 hoyrs i have been with him and if i had help i could have easily pick him and put him in a carrier, well i came in and left the door open hoping he might come but he is gone.

I am going to call work and take tomorrow off and go to get the trap and see if i can do it between tomorrow and sunday?

I dont think he is well, his tummy look huge and i think now that he let me get so close its the best time to catch him. Lets see what the vet says first. Thanks xxx

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #47 on: November 01, 2007, 12:55:54 PM »
Pav, Boy is very chilled out and I figure at worst Mr Tramp can be in the corner of your living room maybe with a screen around him so that he's not annoyed by the site of Boy? My sis can give ideas too if you need them, you know she loves the diy stuff ;)

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« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2007, 12:51:25 PM »
I spoke to my local rescue and they will let me have their trap, so i decided when i have my time off i am going to set it up and see if he gets in before other visitors !! ;D

I will take him to my vet to have what ever necessary and make sure he stays there over night, but i am still not sure about bringing him indoor and leave him in a dog cage since i dont have a quite spot? My bedroom hasbeen taken over by Phoebe :) and boy has got the rest of the flat.

But i think at least if he is treated and is in a better condition then he might have more chance out there and he even might see that no harm has come to him and  chooses to come in himself :Luv:

I will keep you updated once all this is done :Crazy:, and  :thanks: again to every one for the advise. You are great :hug:

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #45 on: November 01, 2007, 11:47:58 AM »
Thats good that he took the tablet, he does look lovely, good luck on what you decide to do will be thinking of you both :Luv:
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« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2007, 10:56:58 AM »
Gail i managed to give him the tablet(Milbemax) last night wrapped in butter and ck :) I think it was the butter which did the trick ;D

Thanks every one for the advise. :hug:

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #43 on: November 01, 2007, 10:15:35 AM »
Get a drontal or Milbimax worming tablet cover it in butter and then wrap it up in a piece of ham !
Always did the trick with my Skaggy Cat (feral)

I was going to say Milbemax in a piece of chicken. Milbemax as it is smaller than drontal, and the taste doesnt come out when it is broken.



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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2007, 01:44:54 AM »
Mr Tramp sounds neutered to me cos he seems to get on with other cats and if his coat is looking sad now , I reckon he might be smelling a bit if he was unneutered.

I know that you said that something spooked him a while back and he disappeered for a while. Maybe I just a scaredy cat but I am not sure I would want to upset his life until he shows more sign of doing it himself. Cats in London seem to me to be different from out here in the country.

I know you love Mr Tramp and you know him the best and will do for him what you think is best   :hug:
Dawn i agree with you that he doesnt realise i am trying to help him, but what made me hesitate to trap him is what about if i take him to  the vet have him dematted and .... but then he doesnt come back ? It took him more than 2 years to trust me and get close and then being trapped and streesed it might upset him, as Gill said out here it seems to be different and all these years i treated him like mine ! If i dont put his terrine cat food,or ck out he simply wont eat which is my wrong doing? Thats why i dont think he can  be placed in a farm . I want him to have a choiceof indoor access and a warm bed but at the same time i stand there and watch him and think may be is for best not to disturb his way of life??? After all he has managed all these years, how can i say whats best for him? Please dont take me wrong , thats why i ask how i should worm him and i ask for advice, becos i do love and care for him .I am going to
think about this for a little while. !! Thankyou

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Re: Feral (MR TRAMP), How should i worm him ?
« Reply #41 on: November 01, 2007, 00:27:02 AM »
I think I would still give it a try.  Most cats like Mr Tramp don't realise you are trying to help them and once this sinks in, they relish the attention.  Lucas the FIV cat had quite a few people trying to get close and he was having none of it, he would run away frightened each time and yet when I trapped him and brought him home, he was a little sweetheart.  He just didn't know how people were going to react to him, and that was why he was acting fearful.  The guy who contacted me initially about him had admitted that on occasion he had scared him away as he'd attacked his cat so it's understandable that no one could get close to him.  With the cold weather coming up, this may be the ideal opportunity to get him on side  ;)

 


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