an animal would surely have had to undergo years of systematic abuse not to respond to normal training methods if applied systematically and with patience and love. I can not imagine any circumstance where I would subject any animal in my care with such brutal tactics. And, for those out there who might disagree, I have successfully retrained some doozies in my life. If you have patience, love and time, you can sort out a lot of problems in any animal (with the possible exception of humans, lol)
