Topic: Urgent.....worried mummy! (Read 18576 times)

Angiew · « **Reply #53 on:** July 31, 2007, 19:18:59 PM »

Calm down folks... there's loads of us mods on at the moment

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #52 on:** July 31, 2007, 19:18:24 PM »

Panda, you don't have to prove yourself to anyone, the main thing is the kittens fine and whatever happens, we are here to help and give advice if we can.

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #51 on:** July 31, 2007, 19:14:55 PM »

Completely agree Dawn, I remember when you posted terribly worried about your foster kittens RR. How would you have felt if no-one replied because they thought it was a 'wind up' or if they questioned everything you said.

PandaFi · « **Reply #50 on:** July 31, 2007, 19:11:38 PM »

Quote from: RatiesRule on July 31, 2007, 19:03:49 PM

sorry folks but i can spot a windup post a mile off & it annoys me that others are taken in by it...yes she can post photos on here but whos to say its hers or sotheing that she has googled for...

A windup?? You want me to prove you wrong! Add me to msn (removed by mod) and I'll turn my webcam on for you? Would that help? Or if you want...I'll take a pic of them with me in it!!!! Actually...why the heck do I need to prove myself to you. I am grateful to everyone else who actually has listened to me, and helped me! To you, thank you

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #49 on:** July 31, 2007, 19:07:37 PM »

Sorry Mags, but regardless of how any of us think, we have to take each post seriously.......the posts on this thread could help to save another kitten's life which I've already explained.

MBll · « **Reply #48 on:** July 31, 2007, 19:03:49 PM »

sorry folks but i can spot a windup post a mile off & it annoys me that others are taken in by it...yes she can post photos on here but whos to say its hers or sotheing that she has googled for...

CurlyCatz · « **Reply #47 on:** July 31, 2007, 19:02:47 PM »

well at check with your proper vet tomorrow will be good, they can also advise / dispense all the correct wormer etc that the babies should really have as worms could maybe exacerbate vomiting if they have a burden in the gut.
At the end of the day it will give peace of mind really to yourself that they are in good condition, doesnt sound the mums owner is that clued up are fantastic so they quite possibley werent given the best of attention.

Let us know how you get on and we'll look forward to seeing paws and chloe

PandaFi · « **Reply #46 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:57:30 PM »

I will be likely to check her out at my local vets in the morning, but I was happy with the quick examination he gave her tonight...to know she was in no trouble. It didn't even cross my mind that he wouldn't have all his equipment. Yeah, sorry, they are called Paws and Chloe! It was Paws that was a wee bit sick.

CurlyCatz · « **Reply #45 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:53:57 PM »

rr i dont think that was really a helpful posting, Panda is going to be taking some photos and uploading them later so you'll see for yourself the little one is ok,

My only concern would have been that this vet would not be carrying medical equipment or medications and would only have been able to carry out a very basic and limited examination, unless they holiday with their stethascope and thermometer etc in which case i personally might be inclined to go to the vets this evening to have a more thorough exam carried out.

the main thing is panda came on purrs and sought opinions and advise which showed obvious concern, those who dont care dont do that.

PS has the kittens got names or have a missed that bit

PandaFi · « **Reply #44 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:48:54 PM »

Quote from: RatiesRule on July 31, 2007, 18:47:09 PM

Quote from: PandaFi on July 31, 2007, 18:43:39 PM

I don't actually know! It was my mum's friend's friend that is a vet somewhere down south, who was visiting, and helped us out!

oh right & im mother terrsa

What is your problem?

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #43 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:48:24 PM »

Quote from: lynn on July 31, 2007, 18:16:38 PM

RR i can be logged into forums for days on end, if i only put my lappie on standby at night or leave it on during the day but i'm not necessarily even at home.

Quote from: RatiesRule on July 31, 2007, 18:45:07 PM

yeah you can be logged on & if not active still show up as stationary but you can also see members either viewig, posting etc ...bit difficult doing this when 1 says 1 is going to the vets ?

Panda has already explained that he/she managed to get a vet to come to the house. As I said before the main thing here is that the kitten is OK... They shouldn't have to explain themselves to anyone on here.

PandaFi · « **Reply #42 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:47:38 PM »

Quote from: RatiesRule on July 31, 2007, 18:45:07 PM

Quote from: lynn on July 31, 2007, 18:16:38 PM

RR i can be logged into forums for days on end, if i only put my lappie on standby at night or leave it on during the day but i'm not necessarily even at home.

yeah you can be logged on & if not active still show up as stationary but you can also see members either viewig, posting etc ...bit difficult doing this when 1 says 1 is going to the vets ?

Maybe people should read my posts, please. I had a vet out.

MBll · « **Reply #41 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:47:09 PM »

Quote from: PandaFi on July 31, 2007, 18:43:39 PM

I don't actually know! It was my mum's friend's friend that is a vet somewhere down south, who was visiting, and helped us out!

oh right & im mother terrsa

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #40 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:46:42 PM »

Quote from: RatiesRule on July 31, 2007, 18:45:07 PM

yeah you can be logged on & if not active still show up as stationary but you can also see members either viewig, posting etc ...bit difficult doing this when 1 says 1 is going to the vets ?

That mystery is solved as the vet came out to visit

MBll · « **Reply #39 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:45:07 PM »

Quote from: lynn on July 31, 2007, 18:16:38 PM

RR i can be logged into forums for days on end, if i only put my lappie on standby at night or leave it on during the day but i'm not necessarily even at home.

yeah you can be logged on & if not active still show up as stationary but you can also see members either viewig, posting etc ...bit difficult doing this when 1 says 1 is going to the vets ?

PandaFi · « **Reply #38 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:43:39 PM »

Quote from: RatiesRule on July 31, 2007, 18:31:43 PM

Pity i didnt have your vet when my 2 6 week old fosters needed the vets in emergency it would have saved me money, whats the vet practice that delt with you & ill pass it on to some folk that are down there it would save them money aswell

I don't actually know! It was my mum's friend's friend that is a vet somewhere down south, who was visiting, and helped us out!

MBll · « **Reply #37 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:31:43 PM »

Pity i didnt have your vet when my 2 6 week old fosters needed the vets in emergency it would have saved me money, whats the vet practice that delt with you & ill pass it on to some folk that are down there it would save them money aswell

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #36 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:28:08 PM »

I'm surprised he didn't give her anything

The fact she was very sleepy and falling over, I would be very concerned if any of mine went like that. Hopefully she'll go from strength to strength

Can't wait to see the piccies

MBll · « **Reply #35 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:23:23 PM »

dum dee dum de dum

CurlyCatz · « **Reply #34 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:16:38 PM »

thats great news and panic over thankfully.

RR i can be logged into forums for days on end, if i only put my lappie on standby at night or leave it on during the day but i'm not necessarily even at home.

Its a great great pity the kittens couldnt stay with all the siblings and mum, even if they arent feeding from her its best for the socialisation and possibly even future behaviour for the rest of their lives, this we know is fact but if the breeder was trying to get rid basically it is best these 2 are now in the hands of someone who is caring and has just had the vet out

The kitten did eat the mince so its a good sign that it will take to solids, 6 wks isnt unusual for them to be reluctant so the lactol is the main food for it and should have as much as per instructions and solid food offered and allowed to eat of its own accord, water obviously should always be freely available.

PandaFi · « **Reply #33 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:15:12 PM »

Nah,he never gave her anything. Said that if she seemed to stay the same, or get worse over the next few hours to just give him a call. Don't have any pics on my computer but i'll get some uploaded tonight!

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #32 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:12:45 PM »

I'm pleased as well

Have you got any piccies of the little ones? And has he given you anything to give her?

PandaFi · « **Reply #31 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:11:08 PM »

Quote from: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on July 31, 2007, 18:08:51 PM

I'm really pleased you got the vet out and that he thinks she'll be okay. What does he think caused the salivating?

He put it down to the fact she had been sick. I'm just happy that she's going to be okay!!!

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #30 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:08:51 PM »

I'm really pleased you got the vet out and that he thinks she'll be okay. What does he think caused the salivating?

PandaFi · « **Reply #29 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:04:02 PM »

Hi guys, had a vet come out to see her...he said she'll be okay, just had a bit of a sore tummy. She's perked up somewhat since the vets been too! And to answer some of the things you've been saying...

The kittens were supposed to be with mum for a while longer, but because they "were" eating on their own, the "breeder" didn't want them around anymore. As for cost + £0. Kitten took mince of own accord...I would never have force fed a kitten. They are both on Lactol, so still getting nutrients, and other kitten is eating both wet and dry kitten foods.

MBll · « **Reply #28 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:02:59 PM »

Quote from: PandaFi on July 31, 2007, 16:59:03 PM

Still...a vet opens at six.

Well its after 6 pm & your still here .

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #27 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:01:49 PM »

Can we please concentrate on the fact that this little one is poorly, I think that's the most important thing at the moment...

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #26 on:** July 31, 2007, 18:00:12 PM »

I think we should all wait and see how this little one gets on, but reading that has now given me a headache

MBll · « **Reply #25 on:** July 31, 2007, 17:57:19 PM »

Re: Looking to Home a Kitten(s)
« Reply #48 on: July 24, 2007, 07:36:10 PM »

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UPDATE!! Found a kittens!!!! Well two actually! My neighbours cat had kittens about six weeks ago, and we didn't know until today! So we picked two out today, and can get them in two weeks!!! Two little girls! They are so adorable! It wasn't a planned pregnancy, so the mummy cat is going to the vets soon! One kitten is kind of tabby, with white paws and chest, and the other is black and white. So name suggestions are welcomes!!!

So these kittens are 6 weeks old & you were picking them up in 2 weeks time making them 8 weeks....so WHY did you not wait 2 weeks

Michelle (furbabystar) · « **Reply #24 on:** July 31, 2007, 17:41:41 PM »

Sorry confused too here !!!

Yesterday this kitten wasnt eating solids and still wanting Mum, how come it is away from Mum today ?
or am i getting things muddled up here

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #23 on:** July 31, 2007, 17:37:50 PM »

Now I've seen the post, I'm confused as well

When did you actually take the kitten? Reading the post from yesterday, it sounded like the "owner" was going to keep kittens together with mum and she was just a little concerned about her being too dependant on mum. Lynn, that was very sound advice, just a little disappointed, it wasn't followed

I agree with the point about salivating as well, this isn't normal unless the little one has been in contact with something else

Are all the other kittens still with mum or have they got homes today as well?

Let us know how you get on with her, I feel sick with worry now

CurlyCatz · « **Reply #22 on:** July 31, 2007, 17:37:31 PM »

not being funny or anything but the solids wasnt placed inside the kittens mouth was it ?

CurlyCatz · « **Reply #21 on:** July 31, 2007, 17:35:09 PM »

I think it should be fully checked with the vet thats for sure.

re the mince i agree they wouldnt catch a cow but it is a food that is given to lots and this is not a reported problem so unless it had somehow managed to inhale the solids i cant see it being that, and a 6 wk old is unlikely to inhale solids if that makes sense. I've seen it from a saucer of milk when they werent used to lapping (ie up the nose lol) or some one syringe feeding wrongly but always with liquids (and they didnt even salivate that much then either, more lots of coughing and sneezing)

i am wondering if it could have come into contact with anything...did you have anything on your finger tips / food/bowl ie cleaning stuff or the likes ?????

Millys Mum · « **Reply #20 on:** July 31, 2007, 17:34:09 PM »

Original post http://www.chaptanservices.com/purrs/index.php?topic=6330.0

I dont think the mince is the culprit either, it hasnt had long enough to do anything. I hope this little one is ok.

MBll · « **Reply #19 on:** July 31, 2007, 17:31:43 PM »

just out of interest how much did this bsb want for the kittens

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #18 on:** July 31, 2007, 17:30:02 PM »

Quote from: lynn on July 31, 2007, 17:22:49 PM

Hi
fresh raw foods shouldnt really cause a kitten any problems (think of what a feral mum will kill for her babies) although i'm wary of raw chicken.

In the wild, they wouldn't be catching a cow

Raw foods if used, have to be very, very fresh and on a tummy that isn't used to it, I would think it's more likely to upset it so personally, I would only use kitten food or if you had to use raw, use something they would eat in the wild like rabbit. With this little one, I would say it's nothing to do with the mince but more likely to do with the fact it's not getting the nourishment off mum and when removed too early, especially if not eating, they are more likely to go downhill because their immune system drops as well.

CurlyCatz · « **Reply #17 on:** July 31, 2007, 17:22:49 PM »

Hi

I'm abit confused and would definately still urge a vet visit, it was me who advised a tiny bit of raw mince as i also gave the kitten brand foods and a/d suggestions aswell, Mince is often given esp in those reluctant to wean in the breeders world and also i have that written in some of my veterinary type books somewhere. If this was "offered" and the kitten willingly took it it would not have caused the problems you describe. fresh raw foods shouldnt really cause a kitten any problems (think of what a feral mum will kill for her babies) although i'm wary of raw chicken.

How did she take it ? ie wolf it down (which for a baby at 6 wks who was avoiding solids i would be most surprised at) or did she properly chew it ?

Also on the original thread i was under the impression that ALL the babies were still with the mum although it was mentioned she was feeling stressed which was why kitten formula was suggested but i am not sure why the kittens have now been removed from their mother.

PS Mum will more than likely get pregnant again very shortly if she isnt already so advising your friend to spay asap would be a priority.

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #16 on:** July 31, 2007, 17:14:54 PM »

What kitten food have you tried her on? It may be worth adding a little warm water or some of the Lactol to some Whiskas kitten pate, and mash it up into a paste.......I also forgot to say, make sure this little one has access to water as well. Fingers crossed, she'll pull through.

I should add, I'm not having a go at you......it's the idiots who've got the mum cat

But also, it's important to stress to owners that kittens should remain with their mum until they are at least 8 weeks old.

PandaFi · « **Reply #15 on:** July 31, 2007, 17:10:29 PM »

Quote from: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on July 31, 2007, 17:06:11 PM

Quote from: RatiesRule on July 31, 2007, 16:59:23 PM
The folk that take pups/kittens under 8 weeks old are just as bad as the breeders

I'm sure no harm was meant intentionally but if it was me in the same situation, I would have reserved the little ones and made sure they were kept with mum until THEY WERE READY AND NOT BEFORE!!

I know some of the posts seem harsh, but because of idiocy, this little one could die I'm pleased mum will be getting spayed, at least it won't happen again.

I understand your concerns, I really do. But it wasn't the type of breeder where you could reserve them. Still, I thank you for your help!

Kittybabe (Ruth) · « **Reply #14 on:** July 31, 2007, 17:09:23 PM »

Oh PandaFi so sorry to hear about your kitten.

Regardless of age and how you came to get the kitten in your care you clearly care.

We're here to be supportive and help if we can.

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