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Offline Dawn (DiddyDawn)

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Re: worming
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2007, 12:17:35 PM »
Quote from: Team Svartalfheim's on July 24, 2007, 12:09:05 PM
I've heard mixed things about Panacur paste (I know of at least one one breeder who had a whole litter die from serious stomach problems after using it) so it does make you worry what to use on 2-5 week old kittens.

I think the best thing to do is to just not use it.   I stopped using it as soon as I first heard bad reports about it.  I'm pretty sure Amanda (RSPCA Medway) had to have some put to sleep after using the Panacur Paste.
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Re: worming
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2007, 12:09:05 PM »
Loads of people use Milbemax on pregnant and lactating cats without any problems and if there was a serious problem it would have been noted by now I am sure.

I've heard mixed things about Panacur paste (I know of at least one one breeder who had a whole litter die from serious stomach problems after using it) so it does make you worry what to use on 2-5 week old kittens.
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Re: worming
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2007, 11:46:55 AM »
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which means that it has to have been extensively tested and be very safe to use before this license is granted

But what animals as it tested on? As mentioned one Pharmacy site says it was tested on rats and rabbits.

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wouldn't use the Panacur Paste


We use the Panacur liquid for very young kittens and use it on hundreds of kittens a year and have never had problem or rather the kittens haven't.
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Re: worming
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2007, 10:50:29 AM »
I wouldn't use the Panacur Paste on any of mine and haven't done for a couple of years now.  There have been some bad reports about it over the years and I remember a thread on one of the forums about it a couple of years ago, where the paste had caused numerous stomach problems in kittens and the end result was, they had to be pts.  I would recommend hanging on until they were 6 weeks, making sure they are within the weight and worm them with Milbamax.
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Re: worming
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2007, 10:22:42 AM »
As I worm my pregnant and lactating Queens with Milbemax I was left a little worried by previous posts so decided to email Novartis for confirmation.

Here is their reply


Thank you for your enquiry.  Milbemax is licensed for use in pregnant and lactating queens which means that it has to have been extensively tested and be very safe to use before this license is granted.

Novartis Animal Health
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Re: worming
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2007, 14:38:17 PM »
Ah well I guess it comes down to personal choice (and vets opinion) in the end then. My vets will happily give prescriptions for Milbemax to pregnant and lactating females so that's what I stick with.
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Re: worming
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2007, 14:36:03 PM »
I appreciate what you say but on another site it says it has only been tested on rats and rabbits and therefore the use in cats lactating is not recommended. So I personally would rather air on the side of caution. Also my own vet only recommends Panacur for lactating females, so I personally will stick with that. Also as Milbemax needs a prescription my vet would not give one for a lactating female.
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Re: worming
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2007, 14:07:08 PM »
http://www.ah.novartis.com/products/en/cab/milbemax.shtml says "MILBEMAX may be used in breeding dogs and cats including pregnant and lactating bitches and queens."
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Re: worming
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2007, 13:59:21 PM »
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Milbemax is safe for lactating cats.


On a site about Milbemax it states:- The safety of the combination product has not been tested in pregnant or lactating cats. Therefore the use in such animals is not recommended.
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Re: worming
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2007, 13:23:20 PM »
Thanks for that T!
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Re: worming
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2007, 12:53:23 PM »
The liquid 10 percent  works out much cheaper if large numbers are being treated,but the paste is not as unpleasant for them so I veer towards that.
I am not a fan of panacur but it does do the job and sometimes its a case of needs must.
At 6 weeks they get Milbemax.
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Re: worming
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2007, 12:46:32 PM »
Quote from: Teresa Pawcats on July 23, 2007, 12:43:29 PM
A word of caution Milbemax should never be used on kittens under 6 weeks of age.

Panacur is suitable for younger kittens.

Do you use the Panacur liquid T or the paste? Ooo didn't know that about the Milbemax kitten (I'd been told as long as they were over the weight they'd be fine)
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Re: worming
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2007, 12:43:29 PM »
A word of caution Milbemax should never be used on kittens under 6 weeks of age.

Panacur is suitable for younger kittens.
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Re: worming
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2007, 12:39:07 PM »
Milbemax is safe for lactating cats. You can either buy it from the vets or get a prescription fro mthe vets and then order it online from somewhere like BestPetPharmacy (you have to post the prescription off to them)

For the kittens I'd go for Milbemax kitten tablets (1/2 tablet for kittens weighing 0.5-1kg). Again you either need to buy at the vets or obtain a prescription.
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2007, 12:33:29 PM »
lillies kittens are 4wks old today and was wondering when to worm them and with what, i know shop bought ones arent anygood and what should i worm lillie with as she is still feeding her babies :thanks:
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