Grr. WE had someone being really snotty with us last week for saying we dont allow cats as X MAs presents - plus the only kittens we have wont be ready till Boxing Day anyway, so no chance of them going till the New Year - we will bend the rules for adults though, as long as it will be a quiet house, which is good for cats like Tiger, I wouldn't want her to miss out. My boss's son wants a tortoise for X Mas, I told him he would be best off sponsoring one for a year and taking him to a sanctuary and seeing how long this want lasts!!