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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2013, 08:41:08 AM »
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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #69 on: February 06, 2013, 18:11:14 PM »
I know.  Am sorry, Jeremy - I wish we were too.   :hug:

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #68 on: February 06, 2013, 13:47:43 PM »
Exactly so! Keeping a companion animal always involves loss (unless you have the long lived sorts such as tortoises and parrots) but... you gain so much more from the relationship than you lose.
I just wish we were discussing this in abstract. Knowing what's right and applying it at the sharp end of events are two different things.

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #67 on: February 06, 2013, 13:38:43 PM »

I applaud your philosophy Jeremy.  :hug:

Whilst it feels incredibly cruel when our cats fall ill or are taken from us sooner than we'd hoped would be the case, it's always worth counting our blessings at how lucky we've been to share that special affection, love and friendship they give us, however long or short the measure of the days involved. 

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #66 on: February 06, 2013, 13:34:37 PM »
Well, that's really the problem. I can take him to the vet's and have the tube removed and hope that the signs he's starting to show of interest in food are for real but what happens if they're not? It can't be put back without a GA. Of course I won't keep him on the tube for ever but I do think he needs a little more recovery time yet. He's still very tired - much more so than before he got ill.
Plus, in all this horrible situation I must remember that at 13 1/2 he's old, especially for a Maine Coon. His father died suddenly after only 3 years. Jonah has not been ill (more than the snuffles) in all that time - leaving aside the pallet op he had as a kitten - and has had a good life with us eating all sorts of curious things - bananas, aubergines (he loves moussaka) and whatever he sees me eating. I wish he'd stay around a bit longer but I'm glad we had as long as we did.

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #65 on: February 06, 2013, 13:12:02 PM »
Hi Jeremy, sitting here crying and thinking how much the two of you love each other.x how can he get used to eating,if the tube makes him gag? we're all thinking and caring for you.

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #64 on: February 06, 2013, 13:04:39 PM »
All I can hope for is a little more time together with him being comfortable and not in pain. But, yes, it is heartbreaking especially because it was so sudden. I knew he was getting on but even two weeks ago he seemed fine - I imagine he wasn't, really, but he behaved much as he always had so I didn't know. I'd expected another year or so and to wake up one morning to find that he hadn't. I'd be miserable of course but not surprised. This though...

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #63 on: February 06, 2013, 12:44:09 PM »
Jeremy, from how you talk about Jonah it's so obvious what a strong bond you have got. All this must be absolutely heartbreaking for you.  :hug: :hug: :hug:

Sending lots of good vibes and ear scratches to Jonah.
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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #62 on: February 06, 2013, 11:58:55 AM »
if you have a blender or liquidizer you could try reducing the tuna or other food he usually likes to a liquid, and see if he will lap it from a spoon - if  he will, you could go that route with other stuff too

dairy products can increase mucus though, so not sure about them, Liz
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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #61 on: February 06, 2013, 11:51:17 AM »
Try warming the food for 10 seconds in the microwave it seems to make it smell stronger, baby food is a good thing to try and cat milk I use anything that has calories in it including cheese, butter and any human food they show an interest in to get the eating thing going again
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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #60 on: February 06, 2013, 11:40:35 AM »
Hi Sue. I tried him on some tinned tuna and he was quite keen on the juice it came in but less so on the fish; it went flaky in his mouth I think but he gave a great snort and little tuna flakes went everywhere! I will try some mackerel though; being a more oily fish it might be easier for him.
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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2013, 11:17:36 AM »



You're already doing your best for him Jeremy.  You're giving him the care and the love that he's always had from you - it's very obvious from your posts.   :hug:

Have you tried feeding him with tinned sardine or mackerel, mashed up in the tomato sauce it comes in?  I never had any succes s with that when Paddy was elderly and off his food but I do know people who swear by it for reviving an appetite.  I would make sure it's mashed though, so that no small bones risk adding to the problems Jonah already experiences.

He's such a gorgeous cat.

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2013, 11:11:29 AM »
Well, that's what the consultant said; the tube is not through the mouth, it's through an incision in his neck - he sports a lovely cat sized snood now - which goes right down into his trachea. So, in theory he can eat normally because his mouth and throat are unobstructed. However, food that way still has to go past the tube lower down and maybe that's behind the gag reflex.

But... his jaw is giving him troubles and his breathing sounds like he has bad flu (the hospital said he had masses of stringy mucus) so it could also be one of those things.

What we've been told to do is reduce the tube feeding so he feels hungry and increase the normal eating - to wean him off so the tube can be removed. But... if the gag thing puts him off normal eating I'm not sure how well that's going to happen.
It's good that he's interested in food again though although I assume he can't smell it too well.

The thing is, the mucus issue has always been there since he was operated on as a kitten. Never put him off eating before though maybe it's got worse with age. I'm going to give him a decent shot before making any hard decisions. While he's still prepared to trot across the floor to sit on my lap and doesn't look like he's given up I will do my best for him.

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2013, 11:01:44 AM »
I second what Sue said  :hug: :hug:

I didnt know you could feed them by mouth if they had a feeding tube?

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2013, 10:44:42 AM »



Aw Jeremy.  Am sorry that Jonah still isn't up to eating unaided.  It's a very distressing time for you.  As you say, if nothing shows up in the tests, then it's very much an issue of quality of life.

Am still keeping everything crossed that something will show up which will point the way to diagnosis and treatment.  Meanwhile, sending respectful and gentle ear rubs for the beautiful Jonah.  :hug: :hug:

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #55 on: February 06, 2013, 10:23:15 AM »
Hi all. A mystery wrapped in an enigma does, indeed, describe Jonah and his ailment. He's stopped falling sideways now but he still gets very tired very quickly - if he's sat on my lap his head droops after 5 minutes or so. He's interested in food but eating it invokes the gag response; because of the tube I expect. He had a little warm chicken skin this morning but each tiny strip had to be hand fed, he managed two (not enough for a mouse let alone a large cat) and choked after each one. Of course, this puts him off the whole idea of eating so it's back to the feeding tube for now.
It is lovely that he can sleep under the duvet with me although it rather keeps me awake as I worry about catching his tube plus he makes a heck of a gurgling noise with his head upside down on my arm. Luckily he does spend most of the night asleep in his box.
I'm not sure how long he can go on like this though; for now he's just happy to be home and that's great but unless there's some change he may simply give up...

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #54 on: February 06, 2013, 08:05:38 AM »
So happy to hear Jonah is home and enjoying a snuggle under the duvet  :) :)
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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2013, 13:54:04 PM »
really pleased to hear he is home, I hope you can find out something soon

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2013, 13:49:25 PM »



Bless Jonah's lttle paws - it sounds like he's being a very brave little soldier.  Bet he was so happy to be home, and you no less happy to have him back.  Let's hope the results come back with something definitive so a treatment plan can be worked out.  Topping up the gentle hugs and positive vibes for Jonah.

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2013, 13:49:00 PM »
So pleased he is home and what a bloomin mystery.

I hope they find out what is causing this  :hug: :hug:

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2013, 13:22:35 PM »
Hi everyone. Well, Jonah is back from hospital now and feeling fatter than he did when going in which is good. However, he's not that much more interested in food as yet so we are feeding him via a tracheal tube. Luckily he just sits on my lap for this and doesn't try fighting. When that's not happening he sits on my lap (if I'm home) or sleeps in his warm box in the bathroom (heated floor).
Last night he was able to get under the duvet with me for the first time since Thursday which he was very happy about although I must be careful not to pull on the tube of course.
There are some more results we are waiting for and a specialist will also examine his CT scan to see if there's an issue with his jaw that is making it hard to eat.
Aside from that all that's happened is they fed him up and it's now a bit of a waiting game.

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2013, 12:10:19 PM »
Hope any news is good and that he can be helped  :hug: :hug:

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2013, 11:07:47 AM »
Just thought I would pop by to say I'm also a fan of this stunningly beautiful boy and keeping everything crossed that he continues to hang on in there until results hopefully give a diagnosis that is easily treatable  :hug: :hug: :hug:

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #47 on: February 04, 2013, 11:02:09 AM »
Hi everyone. Jonah is out of ICU and back on the ward as of last night. No real news because labs and consultants don't work weekends but hopefully I will know more later today. Nothing aside from tests has been done to him though, as yet.

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2013, 08:52:22 AM »
Jeremy, any news on Jonah?  :hug:
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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2013, 07:07:26 AM »



Just calling by again to say thinking of you, and keeping fingers crossed that the news today will be much more positive.  Sending gentle ear rubs for Jonah.   :hug:

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2013, 07:45:10 AM »
Topping up the vibes for Jonah this morning.  Thinking of you both.  :hug:

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2013, 20:38:57 PM »
Here's hoping for good news after the weekend  :hug:

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2013, 12:56:32 PM »
Thanks, everyone. He survived the night in ICU cos he's a little fighter (well, not all that little) so it's a waiting game now. We'll know more next week...


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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2013, 10:47:49 AM »
More good vibes for Jonah  :hug: :hug:

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2013, 08:20:50 AM »
Topping up the good wishes for you and the handsome Jonah :Luv2: :hug: :hug:

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
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Just popping by to top up the positive thoughts and all good wishes for you and Jonah today, Jeremy.   :hug: :hug:

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2013, 22:25:54 PM »
He's lovely Jeremy,i'm also sending positive vibes.

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2013, 21:14:58 PM »
He is lovely! fingers crossed they find out what his problem is. One of my stable cats years ago had pancreatitis, very painful disease and she lost loads of weight but pulled through ok for a few years till she got lymphoma :(

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2013, 20:31:26 PM »
He's gorgeous Jeremy  :Luv2: :Luv2:

I'll keep sending positive vibes  :hug: :hug:
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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2013, 17:59:10 PM »
What a lovely boy and he sounds great.  ;D ;D

I do hope they can help him  :hug: :hug:

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2013, 17:27:26 PM »
hoping for a miracle too.
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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2013, 17:25:53 PM »
There's no doubting he's Avery special cat, Jeremy.  Am hoping a miracle will happen, and that you get to have more precious time with your beautiful boy.  :hug:

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2013, 17:13:30 PM »
Update from the hospital; he stopped breathing briefly on the operating table but they were able to get him back. He's now in ICU overnight with continuous monitoring. They found cysts on and in his pancreas, a deal of skeletal abnormality that causes him breathing difficulties (but that's always been there, it's not a new thing). Lab results Monday so we'll see what happens next.

They also say that, even with his weird body he's a beautiful cat of course!

I can only hope for a miracle...

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Re: unexplained aversion to food
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2013, 16:44:46 PM »
Such a handsome boy  :Luv:  :hug:

 


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