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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #59 on: October 26, 2012, 11:37:55 AM »
It is strange it was not on the news :shify:

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #58 on: October 26, 2012, 10:48:29 AM »
Thanks Sheila that is brilliant.

Amazing how that wasnt reported on the news unlike what was said the day before, renews my faith in the petition system and so sad that most of the public are unaware of how it all works.

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2012, 09:17:34 AM »
Thanks Sheila, that has brightened up my day ;D

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #56 on: October 26, 2012, 08:00:47 AM »


Thanks for posting that Sheila - makes me feel a lot better too.

Sometimes I think we've never lost that urge to destroy, rather than to find ways to live in peaceful co-existence

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2012, 07:02:21 AM »



Yeah - I noticed that too Gill - they said there were "too many badgers" and "badger numbers were higher than they thought to make it viable this year" and there wasn't a mention of the fact over 100,000 signatures had justified this matter for debate in parliament.  Makes my blood boil.  They could vaccinate, and whilst it would be ab ig job, surely not much more than the hassle of having to trap or shoot the badgers would be in any event?

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #53 on: October 24, 2012, 21:29:23 PM »
It feel like a small victory but think the pressure has to continue until its shelved completly

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #52 on: October 24, 2012, 19:21:45 PM »
I note that the paer speaks about the petition and not that in the commones and on news it didnt and thought that over 100k signatures made this have to be rethought in the house.

Maybe they just didnt show that bit but the excuse is pityful, keep on signing the petition

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #50 on: September 27, 2012, 23:30:12 PM »
Thats brilliant, well done that Council.

I agree that the farmers need to start looking at their own practices cos science says that a cull would do little to improve the situation

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2012, 22:20:37 PM »
Hot off the press, I am so excited.

Forest of Dean council voted 30:1 against the cull on their land :narna dance:

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #48 on: September 27, 2012, 20:16:14 PM »
We do feel sorry for farmers but.....

Why can't they act on the FACT that poor farming practise leads to TB. If they followed the advice given by Steve Jones, who has never had TB in all his years looking after herds, it would practically eliminate it :pull hair:

Glos Against Badger Shooting said today that Farmers are on the run and very worried so they are putting out pro cull posters and the likes on FB etc :(

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2012, 19:24:26 PM »


Don't they vaccinate people against TB.?   

Yes, and our jabs last a lifetime. The blurbs on the radio last week-end tried to say the badger vaccinations needed to be repeated every year. How much is true? So many contradictions must raise enough questions to push the cull back.

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2012, 19:15:58 PM »
Are they saying farmers are driven to suicide because of the loss of income?

The pro cull representatives really don't seem to know what they are talking about. They always seem to mention that it's going to stop the badgers suffering. When most of the badger don't even have TB.

Don't they vaccinate people against TB.?   

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2012, 19:00:57 PM »
I saw it too  >:( No mention of the compensation those farmers got from the Crown for their loss, though.

I know TB is a terrible disease, and that the badgers also suffer once it takes hold, but these drastic culling measures cannot be measured so there could never be an adequate report on their effectiveness. Too much too early. They need to seal off an area and try a raft of measures over a period of years then measure the effectiveness under controlled conditions before they can even justify.

Somebody on the radio the other day said a badger TB vaccination was being researched that could be introduced orally in food. Oh but this would need substantial testing before it could be tried  :-: :-: :-: >:(

Dual bloody standards. Give an idiot a gun, tell some lies about statistics then cover up the mess they leave behind. Sounds like politics to me.  :shify:

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2012, 18:51:52 PM »


Just been on the news again five minutes ago - how dangerous badger TB is to humans, and how its driven many farmers to suicide.   >:(

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2012, 17:37:21 PM »
Great news ;D

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2012, 17:12:09 PM »
Anotherr 6000 signatures since yesterday so all this publicity is great

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2012, 15:07:32 PM »
Simon King (One Show nature enthusiast) asked him to help out.

It's great that so many influential and credible celebrities are actually reading the science and seeing no sense in the current plans.

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2012, 14:58:31 PM »
That's good news he's not someone who usually stands up for animals. 

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2012, 14:13:03 PM »
Stephen Fry just re-tweeted the petition link  ;D

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2012, 20:18:38 PM »
Interested to see when the Government are going to say something :shify:

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2012, 13:17:30 PM »
Now standing at 122, 000 so this has really kick started and the more publicity the more signatures.

Hope fully this will be enough to stop the cull

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« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2012, 09:03:21 AM »
it got a mention on the bbc website as well

Sorry I'm duplicating... Not sure if it was the same article but either way more publicity :-)
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« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2012, 09:02:20 AM »
BBC news had an article on their website suggesting it may be stopped due to the high numbers of signatures - supposedly after a certain amount it needs debated in parliament. I'm on my phone so can't add the link but great development...not as good as it stopping though!
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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2012, 07:33:29 AM »
Wow, great news :wow:

Thanks Fred :hug:

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2012, 07:11:59 AM »


Signatures are now over the 100,000 mark - standing at 119,000 when I last checked. 

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« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2012, 05:17:52 AM »
I've shared it on fb


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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2012, 18:58:50 PM »
Wow :wow:

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2012, 18:47:57 PM »
I think the publicity has helped cos its gone up another 3000!

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2012, 18:45:17 PM »
Thats great the more publicity the better. Am sure many people still do not know

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2012, 18:43:07 PM »
it got a mention on the bbc website as well

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2012, 18:42:14 PM »
Jeremy Vine had the badger cull as his Sunday show on Radio 2 this weekend and mentioned the petition. He has a massive listener base so hopefully a few more will join yet.  :shify:

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2012, 18:41:03 PM »
It is brilliant and hope they push it too

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2012, 18:16:00 PM »
I do hope they push for this cos a growth in signatures in two days is enormous,

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2012, 17:20:21 PM »
Thanks Gill, its not too late :hug:

I think Team Badger are hoping the debate will be before the cull starts. If not I think there may be outrage

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2012, 15:15:10 PM »
A bit late but have signed.............badgers are supposed to be protected!

In 2 days this is now standing at over 113k signatures..............and doesnt close until 2013.

I hope this doesnt mean that it wont be debated until then  :(

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2012, 18:19:00 PM »
Anyone who hasn't signed please do and ask you friends. It's now up to nearly 92,000 so only 8,000 more and the government will have to debate the issue. 

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/38257

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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2012, 18:33:21 PM »
Thank you All for your support :hug:

I think people are beginning to talk and ask questions which is brilliant.

The petition has over 50,000 signatures and once it is at 100,000 the Gov have to look at things again.

I think bisecurity, good farming practise and vaccination will be the way forward

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Re: Please help to stop the badger cull
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2012, 18:30:11 PM »
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