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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2012, 14:36:03 PM »
I use Advocate.  However one of the cats has sensitive skin so I use Frontline Combo ( prescription ) on her.  It's not as good as Advocate but better than ordinary Frontline.

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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2012, 20:21:35 PM »

 it is so important for a rescue to keep fleas gone and cats and kittens healthy because of the large number of cats, hopefully coming and going.


In my opinion it is equally important for everyone to keep fleas gone and cats and kittens healthy.

Out of interest has anyone who has paid for what they consider to be a product not suitable for what it has been sold for ie Frontline taken the time to contact the makers and if so what was the result.

I so agree and we are flea free.

Thats a very good question and would love to know the answer too

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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2012, 20:19:24 PM »

 it is so important for a rescue to keep fleas gone and cats and kittens healthy because of the large number of cats, hopefully coming and going.


In my opinion it is equally important for everyone to keep fleas gone and cats and kittens healthy.

Out of interest has anyone who has paid for what they consider to be a product not suitable for what it has been sold for ie Frontline taken the time to contact the makers and if so what was the result.

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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2012, 20:02:20 PM »
I have to agree with Rosella and it is so important for a rescue to keep fleas gone and cats and kittens healthy because of the large number of cats, hopefully coming and going.

I now, or is it still, have two cats that dont go out, one who goes out in the garden for a short while and then there is Sasa!

She of the tortie type I would love to get stronghold on because if anyone has a flea..........it will be her............come to meowmy Sasa, come on, nothing to be scared of  :-[ :-[

No other cats close in the area.

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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2012, 17:54:00 PM »
I was using frontline for a few months and saw its effectiveness wane as time went on. Then when i switched to stronghold, the fleas started dying immediately i changed and stronghold didn't lose its efficacy.
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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2012, 16:19:29 PM »
I bow to your better knowledge Teresa and have to agree I would in all probability treat far more regularly if I were a rescue and frequently taking in young uns and strays. 

When Grouchie lad arrived crawling with fleas in August 2010, I had sprayed his room before he arrived and popped him to vets within an hour for flea and worming treatments and frontlined everyone else in the house for good measure  :shify:

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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2012, 15:16:03 PM »
I have had over 5000 cats through my doors and can truthfully say that includes some of the worst fleabags imaginable as well as wormy bellies.
I do not have a problem, I believe because I do treat all cats/kittens monthly in order to protect them from fleas.
Kittens are wormed at least monthly with panacur and when age and weight allow get Milbemax at least every 3 months,even monthly if any doubts exist.Adult cats get Milbemax at least every 3 months.
I think people forget the length of time flea larvae can hide in carpets,furnishings etc.
I think possibly those of us in rescue have very sadly seen death as a result of flea anemia or witnessed cats dying through serious cases of worms.
These treatments must be applied as directed, hit and miss yearly treatment is NOT enough. This is not aimed at anyone just pointing out something I feel very strongly about.

Just for the record I prefer stronghold because it treats earmites also.

It is also worth checking what the spot on treats as some treat ticks others dont,same with wormer some spot ons treat tapeworm only,others like stronghold only kill roundworm fleas etc.


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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2012, 14:16:19 PM »
Keep coming across peeps saying Frontline no longer works but it works with our lot OK  :-:   

I am wondering if it depends on frequency it is used?  I think I use Frontline 3 or 4 times a year on our lot.  Certainly no more and wouldn't use monthly as recommended.   

We then use Milbemax for worming.  Used to be easy peasy hiding them in webbox but Billy and Dinah have that figured out.


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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2012, 14:14:05 PM »
likewise phillip although only over 6 cats lol.

i also do not use it all the time and have never had probs with fleas or worms, misa gets a mini millibax at the vets once a year and any other cats get a spot on once a year as they cant be pilled.

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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2012, 12:55:42 PM »
I have been using stronghold for years on over 9 cats with no issues or side effects.
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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2012, 05:46:46 AM »
I am always afraid that they would be ill after I put it on them. So it is a toss up between Advantage and Advocate.

I mean that all flea treatments worry me. I know that they have improved since the dark ages but it is still a worry.

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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2012, 23:11:30 PM »
It does have that disadvantage but I figure if I apply the flea treatment religiously then my cats are unlikely to pick up tapeworms to begin with, as cats get tapeworm from fleas. 

Good point!  :gpoint:  :)

Oh Drontal, tell me about it! horse pills lol! although my lot will eat anything that is stuck inside a webbox treat  :evillaugh:

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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2012, 23:02:37 PM »
It does have that disadvantage but I figure if I apply the flea treatment religiously then my cats are unlikely to pick up tapeworms to begin with, as cats get tapeworm from fleas.  But I do appreciate that not everybody would be happy with it.

Incidentally, this month I used Advantage and wormed with Drontal (note to self: NEVER use Drontal again--my Murphy needs XL tablets, which had to be cut into 4 uncomfortable-looking pieces that I had to get down him.  >:(
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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2012, 22:57:10 PM »
Trouble is, it doesnt do tapeworms, which are the most likely parasite when a cat has fleas, so would still have to give tapeworm treatment.  :)

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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2012, 22:51:02 PM »
Advocate is imidacloprid (just like Advantage) to kill fleas, but with the added benefit of moxidectin which will kill roundworms, hookworms, whipworms, heartworms as well.  It obviously costs more but it takes a lot of hassle out of worming. :)
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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2012, 18:46:16 PM »
Sorry am confised, why would they be ill after stronghold and not after advantage or advocate?

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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2012, 18:44:06 PM »
I am always afraid that they would be ill after I put it on them. So it is a toss up between Advantage and Advocate.

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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2012, 18:39:24 PM »
I too would go for stronghold  ;D

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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2012, 18:12:26 PM »
I have never used anything other than advantage and frontline so can't comment on the others.  I used to use Advantage from the vet but started using fronline because it was easier to get, requiring no prescription.  Now I've gone back to Advantage since you can get it without prescription  now and the frontline wasn't working very well and I think it's great.  Done the job and no itching by Mosi.

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Re: I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2012, 14:00:15 PM »
I would go for stronghold. Frontline stopped working on my ragdolls ages ago.
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I am giving Frontline the heave-ho so is it Advantage or Advocate?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2012, 09:33:36 AM »
Frontline does not work on Coco any more so I want to give something else a go. Any ideas please?

I honestly don't know where they came from as neither of them went out doors.
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