Topic: Lukey & Riley both at the vets today - scene of devastation in my house! (Read 20261 times)

clarenmax · « **Reply #119 on:** October 26, 2010, 08:47:48 AM »

Fingers and toes crossed

BazandGem · « **Reply #118 on:** October 25, 2010, 21:52:07 PM »

Rosella moggy · « **Reply #117 on:** October 25, 2010, 21:29:53 PM »

Glad things are looking up Helen but sad that it has taken so long.... fingers and toes crossed and touching wood that all is OK with the gorgeous duo

Janeyk · « **Reply #116 on:** October 25, 2010, 20:25:10 PM »

That's good news

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #115 on:** October 25, 2010, 20:21:59 PM »

Spoke to the vets and she advised mixing in a small amount of 'old' food now and gradually increasing the ratio. They've had a few mouthfuls of biccies tonight so

CarolM (Wendolene) · « **Reply #114 on:** October 24, 2010, 23:50:15 PM »

Hope all is still quiet in the tummy department.

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #113 on:** October 24, 2010, 01:09:23 AM »

I would leave them on it for a week after tha abs finish and then if still ok , gradually change them back on to their normal food.

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #112 on:** October 23, 2010, 21:40:07 PM »

Everything still going to plan, almost don't want to say it out loud as both times I spoke to the vet and said they were better they relapsed big time less than 24 hours later!

Anyone know how long I should leave them on the sensitive food before I try and wean them back onto normal stuff?

Edit: They have one more dose of metronidazole tomorrow morning if that makes a difference.

Janeyk · « **Reply #111 on:** October 22, 2010, 23:15:02 PM »

That's good news

Keeping fingers tightly crossed xx

Fire Fox · « **Reply #110 on:** October 22, 2010, 22:59:51 PM »

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #109 on:** October 22, 2010, 22:23:01 PM »

A little update, they've been on their oral anti-biotics since Tuesday evening and both boys have had normal poos today

Lucas is quite easy to give tablets to as he just freezes, he hates it but it doesn't take long and is a necessary evil. Riley on the other hand is a different story and impossible to pill but he is luckily very greedy and has been eating the tablets rolled up in some wafer thin ham

He did wretch as if to be sick earlier but hoping it was just a one-off and not connected to the recent vomiting.

Thanks for the offer Mark

I'm hoping to wean the boys back onto their normal food once I've had a few more days of normal poos but it was very sweet of you to think of them

Mark · « **Reply #108 on:** October 22, 2010, 18:06:10 PM »

How are they now Helen?

The food arrived today. If you want me to send you a bit to try, PM me. It smells very meaty - sort of Iams-like - it even looks like Iams - it is possibly the same as PAH

. Ingredients are chicken, rice, corn & chicken fat + vitamins

Alice took to it straight away - hopefully it wasn't a one-off.

Janeyk · « **Reply #107 on:** October 21, 2010, 14:51:45 PM »

Poor boys, it definitiely sounds like something infectious is they both have it. I hope you get to find out what though it must be wearing you down too

Fire Fox · « **Reply #106 on:** October 20, 2010, 14:05:46 PM »

Quote from: Tiggy's Mum - Helen on October 19, 2010, 13:23:26 PM

FF - They've been on Lacto B for the last two weeks but the diarrhoea continues

Poor Lukey, who had been OK for the last few days suddenly had diarrhoea (absolutely everywhere!) and was sick so he's going to be accompanying Riley to teh vets this afternoon

You must be worn out, Helen.

How many antibiotic free days have there been in those two weeks? I haven't the foggiest how long a veterinary antibiotic injection is supposed to last.

Blood levels are usually talked about in terms of the half life - the time it takes for the concentration to reduce by half - so there will still be a residual amount of antibiotic for hours or days with a long-acting formulation.

If the residual amount is still a therapeutic dose the probiotic bacteria won't take a hold. Furthermore there may well be inflammation/ damage to the gut lining after being poorly for so long. Not saying that the antibiotics are the sole cause as I am not a vet, just that they may well be a contributory factor (a necessary evil). As you say it is quite possible they are passing an infection back and forth, for some reason some nasties repopulate the gut faster than the good guys.

Teresa Pawcats · « **Reply #105 on:** October 20, 2010, 09:58:47 AM »

Helen I would send in more faeces samples, mix some up from both boys, some things do not always show up everytime.

Mark · « **Reply #104 on:** October 20, 2010, 08:18:32 AM »

Hope they are feeling better today Helen

I was just looking for sensitive food for Alice. I just ordered a bag of Arden Grange chicken & rice sensitive from VetUK and thought of the boys. I know they always say chicken & rice for dodgy tums + it has the vitamins etc. (£9.69 for 2.5kg

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BazandGem · « **Reply #103 on:** October 19, 2010, 22:05:27 PM »

Poor boys. Sending big

for you and a

for Lukey and Riley (Rossi sends sympathetic head butts).

Gem x

snarf · « **Reply #102 on:** October 19, 2010, 19:00:14 PM »

Sorry to hear the boys are still unwell

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #101 on:** October 19, 2010, 15:34:54 PM »

They're both now on a course of metronidazole, the faecal results came back negative but there is obviously something going and it seems to be a vicious circle with one of them getting better then the other possibly passing it back. Riley has Hills I/D and sensitive duck RC to try and Lu is going to stick with the RC sensitive chicken.

I asked about blood tests but she said that there are no other clinical signs that would indicate something going on so to have them on sensitive food, antibiotics and probiotics and as long as they are still happy/eating to leave it a week before we re-assess.

CarolM (Wendolene) · « **Reply #100 on:** October 19, 2010, 14:19:37 PM »

Good luck for the vet visit and I do hope they can come up with an answer and the right treatment to get you poor boys back to normal.

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #99 on:** October 19, 2010, 14:16:34 PM »

Franta was on the lacto B for about 6 months and everytime I stopped it the problem came back and in his case it was definately the abs that did it.

There is no reason not to keep them on the lacto B unless the problem is totally continuous, in which case it must be a problem.

Franta had to go back on the abs a number of times and each time I restarted the lacto B if he wasnt on it already.

Shirley · « **Reply #98 on:** October 19, 2010, 14:13:55 PM »

Poor boys

Hope the vet can find something to help this afternoon

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #97 on:** October 19, 2010, 13:23:26 PM »

FF - They've been on Lacto B for the last two weeks but the diarrhoea continues

Poor Lukey, who had been OK for the last few days suddenly had diarrhoea (absolutely everywhere!) and was sick so he's going to be accompanying Riley to teh vets this afternoon

Fire Fox · « **Reply #96 on:** October 19, 2010, 00:19:08 AM »

Quote from: Tiggy's Mum - Helen on October 18, 2010, 19:00:16 PM

The second batch of faecal results came back today, negative for all nasty types of bacteria so have no idea what is causing this. He's going back tomorrow for another check up and she's ordered some different sensitive wet foods for him to try as chicken breast long term isn't good for him. He hasn't been sick today which is a plus but still need to get rid of this diarrhoea, he's had it for two weeks now

Have you tried probiotics such as LactoB yet? Diarrhoea can definitely be a side effect of antibiotic therapy due to the gut flora being wiped out. I *think* nausea is also a side effect, but my (human) pharmacy is pretty rusty.

Alternatively maybe the vomiting is down to dehydration or electrolyte imbalance from the diarrhoea?

JackSpratt · « **Reply #95 on:** October 18, 2010, 21:53:55 PM »

So odd. Hope you get some useful info soon and that the poor lads runs clear up.

CarolM (Wendolene) · « **Reply #94 on:** October 18, 2010, 19:33:21 PM »

Sorry, no practical suggestions but just want to send you and Riley some of these.

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #93 on:** October 18, 2010, 19:00:16 PM »

The second batch of faecal results came back today, negative for all nasty types of bacteria so have no idea what is causing this. He's going back tomorrow for another check up and she's ordered some different sensitive wet foods for him to try as chicken breast long term isn't good for him. He hasn't been sick today which is a plus but still need to get rid of this diarrhoea, he's had it for two weeks now

JackSpratt · « **Reply #92 on:** October 18, 2010, 10:32:29 AM »

Some kind of infection in the digestive area, maybe? Can make you feel a bit rubbish but still functioning quite well.

Hoping the poor lad feels 100% soon. And hugs to you, this must be terribly worrying.

(Clearly, I have to send a fuss to both cats.

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Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #91 on:** October 18, 2010, 00:26:43 AM »

Poor Riley was sick a few hours after I posted this and then again in the morning so I ended up taking him to the emergency vets today, he's had another anti-biotic jab and an anti-emetic.

The strange thing is he still has an appetite and when he's not actually being sick is quite perky in himself

If he carries on being sick then he's to go back tomorrow and if not then he's to go back on Tuesday.

clarenmax · « **Reply #90 on:** October 17, 2010, 19:23:51 PM »

Poor Riley, hope his tummy settles down soon

and that the vet can give you some idea with the results as to whats actually causing the problems xx

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #89 on:** October 17, 2010, 16:52:02 PM »

Sorry Riley is not well again and sometimes its a vicious cycle that eventually breaks of its own accord.

I know that I had problems getting Franta to eat a couple of years ago and he now will only eat one food and a bit of another. Then he had tail end probs which only lacto B resolved and it returns mildly every so often.

Sometimes frequent vet vists seem to make them worse and maybe stress has a role in this too.

I do hope Riley is back to normal quickly

Mark · « **Reply #88 on:** October 17, 2010, 13:54:40 PM »

I think the Taurine thing is an issue long-term but no idea how long. There isn't much in cooked chicken other than protein and a bit of fat - it is seriously low in calcium so if he will drink milk it is a good idea - maybe cimicat or similar?

Hope his appetite improves - have you tried some smelly a/d?

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #87 on:** October 17, 2010, 00:19:18 AM »

Thanks for all the positive vibes and thoughts, they really are appreciated

Update is that he had me up all night, not because he was poorly but because he was being a pest trying to open drawers and pull things out from behind furniture! I fed him a small amount of chicken breast at around 3am and slept in the spare room with him so I could hear if he was being sick as if he was loose in the house and was sick somewhere hidden I'd be none the wiser. I then fed him some more chicken at 7am and again at midday and he kept all three meals down which is positive.

I decided against taking him to the vets this morning as a) he was now keeping food down and b) until we get the results of the faecal test on Monday (hopefully) they won't really know how to treat it so as long as he is keeping chicken breast down and otherwise happy in himself I'm going to leave it until I speak to the vets about the test results before I take him back. I have a funny feeling they're all going to come back negative which will mean we are at square one with no idea why he's poorly

Quote from: BazandGem on October 16, 2010, 21:41:31 PM

Is there any chance it could be related to the plastic chewing a little while ago, maybe a bit still stuck in his stomach so he's got a blockage somewhere? I can't remember what the outcome of that was.

It does sound positive that he's got an appetite, hope that the vet can give you some answers and he gets back to normal very soon:hug:

The vets seem to think it's a bit of a red herring, he is passing motions (runny ones, although he had two 'normal' poos in the midst of all this diarrhoea) which would rule out a blockage but he was doing a funny flicking thing with his mouth/tongue yesterday like something was irritating him so I don't know.

Quote from: Fire Fox on October 16, 2010, 20:30:39 PM

Maybe Riley just has an acid tummy from not eating properly for a while, it ought to be a positive sign that he is hungry. I'd be worried if it was my furball.

The thing is FF he has been eating like a horse, albeit purely chicken breast so his tummy was used to eating. I'm a bit worried about feeding him just chicken breast long term, he won't eat the RC sensitive so he's eaten exclusively chicken for 10/11 days now - does anyone know if it could be harming him ie lack of taurine or something?

Cooper & Peanut · « **Reply #86 on:** October 16, 2010, 22:42:17 PM »

Poor Riley..

Sending a shed load of 'get well' vibes and lots of headbutts and nudges off Cooper & Peanut

ginge66 · « **Reply #85 on:** October 16, 2010, 22:36:49 PM »

Oh

I'm sorry i missed this didn't realise Riley was poorly again. Hope he got on ok at the vet and is improving

BazandGem · « **Reply #84 on:** October 16, 2010, 21:41:31 PM »

Is there any chance it could be related to the plastic chewing a little while ago, maybe a bit still stuck in his stomach so he's got a blockage somewhere? I can't remember what the outcome of that was.

It does sound positive that he's got an appetite, hope that the vet can give you some answers and he gets back to normal very soon:hug:

Fire Fox · « **Reply #83 on:** October 16, 2010, 20:30:39 PM »

Maybe Riley just has an acid tummy from not eating properly for a while, it ought to be a positive sign that he is hungry. I'd be worried if it was my furball.

sheryl · « **Reply #82 on:** October 16, 2010, 20:25:05 PM »

Oh no Helen - so sorry to hear that poor Riley has had a relapse. Lots of love and huggles and healing vibes xxxx

Teresa Pawcats · « **Reply #81 on:** October 16, 2010, 18:52:55 PM »

Any news ? sending over all the positive vibes I can muster

Rosella moggy · « **Reply #80 on:** October 16, 2010, 09:51:25 AM »

I very much hope you get to find out what this is very soon Helen

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