Topic: Lovely, different, lonely :( (Now staying with a friend of the owner) (Read 17981 times)

TESS · « **Reply #52 on:** July 10, 2010, 22:04:46 PM »

This is a very difficult one.
Although i have offered this little cat a home, i do in some ways agree with Skully.

Tagalong · « **Reply #51 on:** July 10, 2010, 17:20:27 PM »

thankyou -have pm'd you

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #50 on:** July 10, 2010, 16:19:44 PM »

Here is the link to one of Mikeys threads

http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php/topic,31758.0.html

and on there you will find a link ti Mikeys Wheelchair Fund and on one of the threads should be a link to all of his story on Cat Chat, if not let me knopw and will get it for you

I havent heard any updates on Mikey recently and will have to ask for one.

I would appreciate if any Mikey posts could be on his threads and not on here cos we should keep the two seperate,

Just want to add that is someone is offering a home to the Russian cat , there are many hurdles to climb and would be grateful if you would pm me please

Tagalong · « **Reply #49 on:** July 10, 2010, 15:59:35 PM »

I've not been on here for a while so not aware of Mikey's situation or needs -link to his post ?
I saw about Mareka's boy on another forum.

Mark · « **Reply #48 on:** July 10, 2010, 15:14:59 PM »

In that case, maybe one of you could adopt Dobrynia and the other, Mikey

Although I am not sure if Heather will really be able to part with Mikey.

Tagalong · « **Reply #47 on:** July 10, 2010, 14:30:08 PM »

I am also offering him a home here with my cats -I have the knowledge and experience and I am at home not at work.
I am also a qualified Animal nursing Assistant and have a great vets .

Mark · « **Reply #46 on:** July 10, 2010, 14:19:13 PM »

Quote from: TESS on July 07, 2010, 22:23:02 PM

If he could be transferred to the UK, I would love to offer him a safe loving home with my other disabled cats.

This is what makes the difference.

It sounds as if Mareta's friend is fostering him temporarily. I agree it isn't ideal for him to travel all this way but Mareta said it is difficult to find homes for disabled cats in Russia.

Skully · « **Reply #45 on:** July 10, 2010, 12:29:33 PM »

Ok so no quarantine, but even so the stress of all the other stuff is just so much to put on one small cat, and as you say Gill Mikey still doesn't have a forever home and he is already here in this country.

I still feel that the money it would take to do this would be better spent on finding Dobrynia a loving forever home in Russia, closer to where he already is now and save him the stress of going through a very long process of relocation to the UK.

How is Mikey doing? Did he ever take to being a wheeled kitty?

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #44 on:** July 10, 2010, 12:19:18 PM »

Quote from: Skully on July 10, 2010, 11:36:22 AM

I don't mean to be a damp squib, but is it really fair to put this little cat through having rabies jabs and other such medication and then the stress of the long distance travel and quarantine? I feel sure, with the right search and promotion, that a good loving forever home could be found for him in Russia. There are thousands of cat lovers in Russia that could offer him the loving care he needs without putting him through all that added stress. Maybe the money people are offering to collect for his transportation could be used to start up an ad campaign in Russia to find him his perfect home.

Apart from he would need a home to go to! There would be no quarantine as he would be on a pet Passport.

However Mikey still needs a home and he is in UK! Homes for disabled cats are very hard to fiind in any country.

What I dont understand is that the cat in Russia is in a home and very happy by the look of it, so why does he need to leave it? His friend the black and white cat looks like he loves him to bits.

Skully · « **Reply #43 on:** July 10, 2010, 11:36:22 AM »

I don't mean to be a damp squib, but is it really fair to put this little cat through having rabies jabs and other such medication and then the stress of the long distance travel and quarantine? I feel sure, with the right search and promotion, that a good loving forever home could be found for him in Russia. There are thousands of cat lovers in Russia that could offer him the loving care he needs without putting him through all that added stress. Maybe the money people are offering to collect for his transportation could be used to start up an ad campaign in Russia to find him his perfect home.

cheekycj · « **Reply #42 on:** July 09, 2010, 14:35:56 PM »

This is a really hear warming thread

I will gladly donate money if that is what is required to help this lovely little fella

cj

Tagalong · « **Reply #41 on:** July 09, 2010, 14:25:44 PM »

I don't think BA will allow him to be in the cabin -a few years ago I flew a cat back with me from Newcastle to Heathrow and she was in the hold but they were very good about it -with his problems it will be more important for him to be well supported physically as he will get distressed if he is wobbled about too much -so lots of blankets to stabilize him. The hold is dark and cold but once flying hopefully smooth in a way more smooth than a car.

Tagalong · « **Reply #40 on:** July 09, 2010, 13:42:01 PM »

I posted a reply on Pet forum but have now seen your post here so --
I have a disabled cat called Boris he is now 2 years old -he was born like this probably due to oxygen deficiency with a difficult birthing.
Since your boy is quite small he may have this problem due to his mother being infected with Feline infectious Enteritis .
He has a form of Cerebral Palsy so yes he is a type of CH kitty but if you look at the videos of him you will seehow alike they are.
Boris came to me from a rescue at 12 weeks old and lives with my other cats who all have differing disabilities. I no longer work but I am a qualified Animal Nursing Assistant so I am at home most of the time
Boris is unable to use a litter tray -he lays on his side and uses puppy pads. One of my other older rescue cats Mushy loves him in the same way the other cat loves your lad.
At 2kg he should be fine for castration but I don't know which anaesthesia method or type is used by your vets.

Mareta · « **Reply #39 on:** July 09, 2010, 07:18:31 AM »

Millys Mum, we are in Saint-Petersburg, it's the 78th region, so it is possible for us to use the Scheme.

Black&White cat couldn't stay with him, unfortunately.
Dobrynia (disabled cat) lives now with my friend. The black&white is her cat. His name is Venia

Mark · « **Reply #38 on:** July 08, 2010, 22:02:36 PM »

The black & white cat obviously loves him

. Would they be able to stay together or is the other cat yours?

TESS · « **Reply #37 on:** July 08, 2010, 21:40:48 PM »

What a lovely video of him and the lovely black and white cat washing his paw. Does he have a name?
I hope all goes well with his vet visit and that something can be sorted out for him.

Millys Mum · « **Reply #36 on:** July 08, 2010, 21:09:35 PM »

What part of russia is he in as that appears to make a difference

http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-pets/pets/travel/pets/procedures/support-info/other.htm

Mareta · « **Reply #35 on:** July 08, 2010, 19:23:29 PM »

I think we should start vet consulting to be sure that we could make all neccesary medical procedures.
Anyway, there should be about 6-7 month between the last medical procedures and travelling.

He should be neutered also, but right now it's impossible - he is so skinny, about 2 kg weight. Doctor said that there is very important for him to have good measl and physical trainings - to build up his muscules.
Now it's dangerous to give him any anaesthetic.

http://rutube.ru/tracks/3401110.html?v=8d8eeb8ddc9e393a2169e5dd6bf0a48a
Amaizing purr sound in the last 4-5 seconds of the video

princessmaizie · « **Reply #34 on:** July 08, 2010, 11:30:34 AM »

This is brilliant!! I love how everyone comes together!! If an appeal is set up I'll donate! Hope something can be sorted.

Mark · « **Reply #33 on:** July 08, 2010, 10:51:33 AM »

These airlines allow cats to travel in the cabin with a passenger so there must be others http://www.catsunited.com/html/air_line_travel.html

Steff - Petsearch Bedford HQ · « **Reply #32 on:** July 08, 2010, 10:34:23 AM »

My friend is an FA for United...I will asl her if she knows about pets being allowed on board under special circumstances and will also see if she knows anyone with another airline that flies from russia to uk.

Mark · « **Reply #31 on:** July 08, 2010, 10:25:37 AM »

I wonder if BA would make an exception for a disabled cat? - anyone on here know anyone connected to them?

I think it is possible because on one of the links I read last night, it said to specify that you want the cat to travel accompanied. I suppose it is different if you are travelling as well. We need to find a cat-loving cabin crew person

Sabrina (Auferstehen) · « **Reply #30 on:** July 08, 2010, 10:23:24 AM »

Quote from: Mark on July 08, 2010, 10:17:19 AM

I wonder if he would be able to travel in the cabin somehow. I suppose it would mean escorted travel which would add to the cost.

I dont' think you could, I know with Penguin it was put to me that he HAD to travel in cargo. However the crate I had to buy for him was huge and I could have climbed into it.

Mark · « **Reply #29 on:** July 08, 2010, 10:17:19 AM »

This video shows how cats can improve their coordination over time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLlL24shW7E

So it seems that the timescale is 7 months between the rabies vaccination and travel. I wonder if he would be able to travel in the cabin somehow. I suppose it would mean escorted travel which would add to the cost.

Mareta · « **Reply #28 on:** July 08, 2010, 08:46:54 AM »

He is walking:
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3399475.html?v=75bcf7e4af8d41642ee06b5164836620

Mareta · « **Reply #27 on:** July 08, 2010, 07:51:52 AM »

Here's the information I've got from the russian site "Go to the UK" (it's in Russian, so I will try to translate it correctly):

Pet Travel Scheme (PETS) allows cats and dogs import to the UK from Russia without quarantine of 6 month in case if the following formalities were respected:
* Pet should be chiped for identification. Standard chip should satisfy the requirements of ISO 11784 or ISO 11785 (addendum A).
Chip should be tested out until and after the implantation.
* Pet should be vaccinated of rabies vaccine after the chiping procedure. All information about the rabies vaccination should be shown in the vet certificate: age of the pet, chip number, vaccination date, name of the vaccine's producer, lot number of the vaccine, next vaccination date.
* Pet should be treated against intestinal worms and all kind of parasites.
* Pet should pass the blood test for rabies antibodies in the EC certified Laboratory in 30 days after the vaccination.
* Pet could be imported to the UK only after 6 months after the successful results of the above mentioned blood test.
* Pet should be treated against mites and warms (Echinococcus multilocularis) by the praziquantel in 48 hours before the journey
* Pet could be imported to the UK only by the licensed carrier - British Airways World Cargo only in baggage and cargo space, separately of the owner.

Mareta · « **Reply #26 on:** July 08, 2010, 07:01:43 AM »

Sabrina, thank you!
Don't you know which tests should we make?
I will also ask our vet too.

Mareta · « **Reply #25 on:** July 08, 2010, 07:00:34 AM »

Thanks to all for your help!

I will try to find out any informaton concerning all necessary vaccinations and time periods berween vaccinations and travelling.
I think we could issue the vet passport and chip for him here.

We also need to consult about travelling - I don't want him to travel in a baggage.

I will also try to consults vets about travelling by the plane - I actually don't know how could he withstand this journey.
He was good when travelling by car from Moscow. But all the way I kept him on my knees.

Sabrina (Auferstehen) · « **Reply #24 on:** July 08, 2010, 06:47:45 AM »

As russia is listed under their qualifying countries the cat wouldn't have to stay in quaranteen for the 6 months, just have the tests 6 months prior to departure.

Penguin came over from the US and I only had to wait 6 months, he stayed with my mom.

bunglycat · « **Reply #23 on:** July 08, 2010, 00:50:03 AM »

I am sure the kind peeps on here will help - i would be willing and i am sure others will- there are a lot of Purrs members now , even if everyone donated a couple of pounds that would amount to a lot if there around 1000 or more members

Mark · « **Reply #22 on:** July 08, 2010, 00:22:50 AM »

Sorry - forgot to put the link http://www.moscowanimals.org/advice/import.html

I'm sure it can be done. We just need plenty of people willing to help with the cost.

Steff - Petsearch Bedford HQ · « **Reply #21 on:** July 08, 2010, 00:19:59 AM »

Oh yes I wasn't expecting a reply tonight but wanted to start researching.

I think the defra site will have all information (can't really look at it all now as I'm on the Blackberry). There are also Companies that will help take you through the whole process.

Will do some more research but it should be possible.

Mark · « **Reply #20 on:** July 08, 2010, 00:16:44 AM »

I guess Mareta is sleeping as Russia is 3 hours ahead.

OH told me that there is no quarantine period but there is a time period between vaccinations and travel. I'm not sure what the rules are.

I found this website. It says the information is for transporting pets to and from Russia but most of the information seems to be for transporting to Russia.

My partner has a degree in Soviet Studies but not sure if that would be any help.

Steff - Petsearch Bedford HQ · « **Reply #19 on:** July 07, 2010, 23:44:57 PM »

Sorry Mareta just realised I got your name completely wrong (I'm getting tired now)

Steff - Petsearch Bedford HQ · « **Reply #18 on:** July 07, 2010, 23:43:30 PM »

Minimum age for rabies vaccinations looks to be 12/16 weeks but depends on the drug manufacturer. I think the Pet Travel Scheme would be best because then he wouldn't need to stay in quarantine for 6 months

The link to defra with the information on how to qualify is here:

www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/pets/

I think it also gives details of suitable shipping agents etc.

Mereka would it be possible for you to organise this your side if a home was found for him over here and the people on Purrs could possibly help by putting towards funding? I would definitely put in if we start something up.

Are you from a rescue organisation in russia or just a kind member of the public?

Steff - Petsearch Bedford HQ · « **Reply #17 on:** July 07, 2010, 23:29:28 PM »

Just looked at the defra website. It looks like he would need to do 6 months quaratine if he couldn't qualify for the Pets Travel Scheme (pet passport thingy). One of the requirements is a rabies vaccine...I'm not sure what the minimum age is for a rabies vaccine as it doesn't say on the site but I will see what I can google. There are of course other requirements but I think the rabies vaccine is the biggy. Goods news is that animals coming from Russia can qualify for the Pet Travel Scheme. I will do some more research.

Will he be up to travelling?

TESS · « **Reply #16 on:** July 07, 2010, 22:53:56 PM »

Hopefully someone will know quarantine regulations and costs involved.

purrdy1 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 07, 2010, 22:32:21 PM »

OMG! that other cat needs to stay with him...he is actually playingwith him...its sooo beautiful!.....If i dint have 4 cats already i would have him in a heartbeat....I would have him anyway! so if there is noone else but im sure there will be......I would take him! the footage of him playing is just incredible!

Mark · « **Reply #14 on:** July 07, 2010, 22:29:02 PM »

Hopefully there is someone who will know the quarantine dates. I think it may have changed to 6 weeks now. It used to be 6 months. My partner had to keep Willow in quarantine in France for 6 months before she came to England.

Jo (Blackcat) took her 2 cats to Tazmania last year so hopefully she will be able to advise. I'm sure the rules vary depending on the country, but Russia to the UK shouldn't be too difficult.

TESS · « **Reply #13 on:** July 07, 2010, 22:23:02 PM »

If he could be transferred to the UK, I would love to offer him a safe loving home with my other disabled cats. Would he have to go into 6 months(?) quarantine on arrival? Would he be able to withstand the long journey?

Author Topic: Lovely, different, lonely :( (Now staying with a friend of the owner) (Read 17981 times)