Topic: Has anyone known of bad reaction to advocate RIP Spike (Read 63955 times)

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #132 on:** September 02, 2009, 20:45:44 PM »

Sounds like you've turned a corner, lets hope he goes from strength to strength now

clarenmax · « **Reply #131 on:** September 02, 2009, 20:44:39 PM »

I hope they can give you some definitive answers ASAP, and fingers and toes crossed that Spike can come home again tomorrow

If only your vets had acted a bit quicker, but there's always lots of what if's in life I guess, but I'm so pleased you're finally get some good results now

xxx

Janeyk · « **Reply #130 on:** September 02, 2009, 20:38:56 PM »

that is very good news indeed, hope that Spike can come home tomorrow and soon sorted

Poisonivy · « **Reply #129 on:** September 02, 2009, 20:32:42 PM »

Taken Spike today... Long day and quite good really.

They think he is a mess (obviously) They decided to keep him in for tests etc...

Well lots of information that I wont bore you all with but basically they think it is most probably the advocate, the vets are still insisting it is a (normal allergy) but the specialist said she did not agree and think the Advocate caused his problem. (just a 1 in million chance I would like to add)

I have had 2 phone calls tonight to say he is round from his anasthetic and doing good and that they are looking more at treating his eyes as they are really bad with ulcers and could be damaged, (apparently the steroid tablets he was on can cause ulcers in the eyes and thats why the eye drops have not worked!!!!!!) They also found that because it has been so long the outside of his eyes have healed half closed so is unable to open fully, they have sorted that out for him today in surgery and someone will telephone me tomorrow to let me know on the next step. I am hoping to go and get him tomorrow (if he is well enough) and hoping I can get there in time after work (hour and half away).

Oh ..... and he has new fur growing on his head

YEAHHHHH....

Feel loads more positive now been there.

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #128 on:** September 02, 2009, 08:06:22 AM »

Good luck

Janeyk · « **Reply #127 on:** September 02, 2009, 07:52:48 AM »

Best of luck for today xx

Baggy · « **Reply #126 on:** September 01, 2009, 23:04:56 PM »

All the best for tomorrow, here's hoping he's on the mend very soon.

Poisonivy · « **Reply #125 on:** September 01, 2009, 22:57:05 PM »

Quote from: trigger on September 01, 2009, 22:29:57 PM

I'll settle for nice healthy scab-free skin as starters

followed by a fine coating of bum-fluff

and finished off with a full coat of glossy fur

yeah sounds good to me.. His skin has gone a very light shade of pink and can see the odd tuft on his head. It spread down his back but I hopin that it now. (looks like it)

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #124 on:** September 01, 2009, 22:45:59 PM »

Lots of good wishes for Spike in Liverpool and do hope they can help him quickly

Kay and Penny · « **Reply #123 on:** September 01, 2009, 22:29:57 PM »

I'll settle for nice healthy scab-free skin as starters

followed by a fine coating of bum-fluff

and finished off with a full coat of glossy fur

Poisonivy · « **Reply #122 on:** September 01, 2009, 22:25:59 PM »

Quote from: ginge66 on September 01, 2009, 21:53:03 PM

Hopefully now you will get some answers and should start to see improvement How is Spike by the way?

Not too good at moment, think he fed up with it. Wont let us near him, he not a happy cat.... Cant blame him thought it been long enough now.

Next pic I hope is a full furry and happy puss.

pappilon · « **Reply #121 on:** September 01, 2009, 22:23:23 PM »

Finger crossed for Spike, i hope they can help him.

Janeyk · « **Reply #120 on:** September 01, 2009, 22:10:37 PM »

Hope tomorrow is the start of Spike's recovery

clarenmax · « **Reply #119 on:** September 01, 2009, 21:57:42 PM »

Fingers and toes crossed for you

xx

ginge66 · « **Reply #118 on:** September 01, 2009, 21:53:03 PM »

Hopefully now you will get some answers and should start to see improvement

How is Spike by the way?

Gillian Harvey · « **Reply #117 on:** September 01, 2009, 21:47:15 PM »

Oh good luck, hope they can find out how to treat him

Bazsmum · « **Reply #116 on:** September 01, 2009, 21:26:38 PM »

Best of luck for tomorrow!

Poisonivy · « **Reply #115 on:** September 01, 2009, 21:12:43 PM »

Hi all

Spike is going tommorrow to the specialist in Liverpool.

Fingers crossed we get going on making him better now

Corporal Smokey · « **Reply #114 on:** August 28, 2009, 08:57:20 AM »

Ayup Spike matey, jus' wanted to say gud luck at da vets an' hopefully your experience will 'elp other puds

love Smokey xx

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #113 on:** August 28, 2009, 07:41:28 AM »

Fingers crossed they can help at Liverpool, and Bayer help with the costs.

Poisonivy · « **Reply #112 on:** August 28, 2009, 00:15:31 AM »

I do agree with Julie too. I have stated this to Bayer that the product has been a huge sucess with my dog and other cat. IF it is the advocate that Spike has had a reaction to then its just a shame that something so simple can set him off. But its something I need to know for future. Im not after reporting them because they have been good with us and I just want Spike better.

I would use Advocate on my other animals again if they think Spike wont react being near them.

Kay and Penny · « **Reply #111 on:** August 27, 2009, 21:37:29 PM »

what Julie says makes a lot of sense to me - and the fact that Spike's case is obviously very unusual is going to ensure he gets lots of care and attention from the specialist centre in Liverpool

Bazsmum · « **Reply #110 on:** August 27, 2009, 21:34:35 PM »

Sorry for butting in but is bayer any relation (company wise ) to Baxter?

Its okay... Found out myself!

Pinkbear (Julie) · « **Reply #109 on:** August 27, 2009, 21:31:21 PM »

Well that's a relief.

No one is going to say Advocate is responsible at this stage, least of all Bayer. If they did they would be admitting liability for any future legal action. Any vet who states Advocate is to blame is also laying themselves open to legal action from Bayer as well. Sometimes these things are resolved without anyone admitting fault.

I would just throw yourself on Bayer's mercy at this point and make it clear all you want is for puss to get better and not interested in anything else. Try to stay friends with them and avoid making enemies. Even though the evidence points to Advocate being the problem and I think we all know that, Bayer are frightened you'll go to the press and that damages their business... and if you did go to the press, all help from Bayer would stop.

It sounds like a very, very sad and very, very severe reaction to me... but also pure bad luck. I've used Advocate on dozens if not hundreds of cats by now and never had a problem. I would think Bayer will use your case to help refine and improve the product to make this kind of thing an even rarer chance of happening.

Bazsmum · « **Reply #108 on:** August 27, 2009, 21:08:19 PM »

Glad they have finally got to the bottom of this and best of luck for the future treatment!

Millys Mum · « **Reply #107 on:** August 27, 2009, 20:02:44 PM »

They should be able to see you very quickly, Lola got referred to newmarket specialists at 9am by my vet and referral clinic said would 11.30am be ok so they act on urgent cases

Poisonivy · « **Reply #106 on:** August 27, 2009, 19:56:07 PM »

Quote from: Janeyk on August 27, 2009, 19:52:49 PM

Brilliant as I mentioned on my previous post my sister's work colleague got her dog's problem sorted out at Liverpool so lets hope they can soon sort Spike out. Hope you get the appointment soon

- Something to be positive about, not heard of anyone going to Liverpool untill you said, at least I can see light at the end of the tunnel now.

Janeyk · « **Reply #105 on:** August 27, 2009, 19:52:49 PM »

Brilliant

as I mentioned on my previous post my sister's work colleague got her dog's problem sorted out at Liverpool so lets hope they can soon sort Spike out. Hope you get the appointment soon

nicter · « **Reply #104 on:** August 27, 2009, 19:52:09 PM »

So pleased youve finally got a diagnosis and that you dont have too long to wait for an appt
I agree with Gill ... If its the advocate I would think Bayer should pay further treatment.. Guess we could all badger them from purrs !!

Poisonivy · « **Reply #103 on:** August 27, 2009, 19:51:48 PM »

Quote from: Gillian (Ambercat) on August 27, 2009, 19:47:43 PM

Are they saying that the reaction is due to the Advocate? If it is the Advocate surely Bayer should pay for ongoing treatment too?

Thanx Gillian.

They wont commit to saying it is that, but I cant think of anything else it could be, he doesnt go out much and hasnt for months. I havent changed anything in the house i.e. cleaning, washing products.

Apparently there is no test to confirm if it is the Advocate, but they say it is a reaction to a chemical????? Dont understand really myself.

Poisonivy · « **Reply #102 on:** August 27, 2009, 19:48:54 PM »

Quote from: Tiggy's Mum - Helen on August 27, 2009, 19:45:27 PM

So pleased you're finally getting somewhere Are you far from the specialists in Liverpool?

About 50 miles away. Car in garage tomorrow and next week so hoping it ready in time.

car. Wrong time for us.

Gillian Harvey · « **Reply #101 on:** August 27, 2009, 19:47:43 PM »

Oh at last, some answers

I've been thinking about him a lot and hoping for something positive to happen.

Are they saying that the reaction is due to the Advocate? If it is the Advocate surely Bayer should pay for ongoing treatment too?

I'm so pleased you've got a sort of result and hope that appointment comes through very soon.

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #100 on:** August 27, 2009, 19:45:27 PM »

So pleased you're finally getting somewhere

Are you far from the specialists in Liverpool?

Poisonivy · « **Reply #99 on:** August 27, 2009, 19:41:31 PM »

Hi all

New info today, phoned vets twice today - apparently the results are back......

Someone eventually phoned me back, he has no internal problems but has a very high infection, apparently this is due to a severe reaction to some kind of chemical.

Eventually I have some kind of answer. The vet had spoken to Bayer who are willing to cover the cost of Spike to go to Liverpool for tests. (but that may be all, it would be up to me to pay for any ongoing medication, once they know how to treat him)

So spike does not have a flea, mite or pollen allergy.

I have insisted now that they get the appointment booked a.s.a.p. as this has gone on long enough.

His steroids have been upped in the meantime. Hoping this appointment will be very soon now.

all for your support, advice and encouragement

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #98 on:** August 25, 2009, 22:23:04 PM »

Sending a top up

to Spike and his Mum, he has lots of people rooting for him

Pinkbear (Julie) · « **Reply #97 on:** August 25, 2009, 22:04:32 PM »

I wouldn't be tempted to change vets at this stage. I imagine vets are the same all over the country as they are here and one practice will never take the word of the second over anything. Some vets round here pass blame on each other all the time. A second vet will certainly want to retest for all those things again, which wastes time and the results will be the same anyway.

My next move would be, as you say, to get back to Bayer. They aren't monsters and will be keen to show they've supported you to obtain a correct diagnosis.

Don't be surprised if it doesn't get worse. From the picture it doesn't look ready to recover yet.

Poisonivy · « **Reply #96 on:** August 25, 2009, 21:46:43 PM »

Quote from: Pinkbear (Julie) on August 25, 2009, 18:18:43 PM

I do also have to say sweetheart, although it must be very, very distressing to live with it also doesn't look fatal at this stage. I don't see any massive sores that would allow bacteria into the body.

Thanx Julie

My main concern about this spreading is that he has ulcers in his eyes, one eye is really bad and the vet thinks it has affected it. I have eye drops for him but as days go on it is getting more difficult to put them in as he does not like me touching him. I dont think it is fatal and think it is just that he looks really awfull and neglected. They have done x-rays and they were clear - so that is good news

Im just hoping that they can find a cure to get him back to normal. I couldn't let him live like this for ever

Fingers crossed on results this week. Will be phoning the vets every day

Poisonivy · « **Reply #95 on:** August 25, 2009, 21:39:21 PM »

Quote from: nicter on August 25, 2009, 19:47:42 PM

Found this link to various causes of allergies and symptoms... may be helpful x
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=1+1330+1338&aid=195

to everyone for your input. After reading these I still believe he had a reaction to Advocate but I cant be sure. But after reading the above post and link .......

loads for that. I scrolled down till I found Spikes symptoms (fur loss, itching, ulcers and crusts) - I may be jumping to conclusions but it was under the heading "Drug or injection reaction" and it says it occurs 2 weeks after giving the drug, that is when spike had an abcess on his ear that the vet said was caused by fighting, just checked my calendar, Spike had the Advocate in the first week of May, he had a small ulcer/abcess round the 18th, my friend advised salt water and cleaning it which I did, it went down and seemed to get better, but in the last week of May we had to go the Vets as it appeared double in size. since then I have been 9 or 10 times. It has just got worse over time. The Vets sugest that if it was a reaction to the Advocate then he sould be getting better as the drug wears off in his system????

I phoned the Vets back again for the 2nd time today.... I asked the lady on reception to look in Spikes notes and see if he has been treated for mites (I said I was concerned for my other cat) She said he had been treated and he has also had numerous steroids, I also asked if he had " ivermectin" which apparentley treats mites, lice etc.. Only going to give the vets this week and then going to contact Bayer again. My friend sugested I go to another vet but I dont want to start from scratch.

Thank you all for your advice and links (Gillian thanx) I have saved them to my favourites and will spend some time going through them.

sheryl · « **Reply #94 on:** August 25, 2009, 21:20:01 PM »

Bless his heart - I think if he was one of mine I would be demanding an appointment with a specialist - I really hope he get better soon xxx

Sending love, huggle and positive vibes for Spike xxx

nicter · « **Reply #93 on:** August 25, 2009, 20:35:17 PM »

Just read the literature on advocate online and it does say in rare cases can cause erythema (an allergic skin reaction)

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