Kylie acting subdued - any ideas?

[Janeyk]

Probably a bit of both. Grazing usually involves eating dry food, which is notorious for having way too many carbs in for cats, and which they don't actually need in their diet, and wouldnt eat normally. As Marks vet said, their bodies are designed to eat what they catch, if they don't catch, they don't eat.

yep and that catch will be meat ie protein and not carbs so that does make sense bec of the high carb content in biscuits whereas they are naturally used to a high protein diet.

[pappilon]

She is on the sunbed in the garden now rather than hunched up in her house 

Glad Kylie is feeling better now and best of luck with your procedure today.

[Gillian Harvey]

Probably a bit of both. Grazing usually involves eating dry food, which is notorious for having way too many carbs in for cats, and which they don't actually need in their diet, and wouldnt eat normally. As Marks vet said, their bodies are designed to eat what they catch, if they don't catch, they don't eat.

[Janeyk]

The vet didn't consider it. He just went through how I can keep Willow's weight up while restricting Kylie's food (not easy). He is very anti-grazing and said it is the cause of diabetes as cats naturally would kill and gorge then go without for 24hrs and the way a lot eat now causes their blood sugar to be raised all the time which is not the way their bodies are designed to work.

I'm really surprised at that tbh because for humans with diabetes they are encouraged to graze to keep their blood sugar stable i.e. little and often rather than eating lots in one go, getting a rush of insulin then a sudden drop.  The only thing I can think is it's different for cats due to how different their bodies work? or is it more the eating too much and getting too fat?

[Gillian Harvey]

The vet didn't consider it. He just went through how I can keep Willow's weight up while restricting Kylie's food (not easy). He is very anti-grazing and said it is the cause of diabetes as cats naturally would kill and gorge then go without for 24hrs and the way a lot eat now causes their blood sugar to be raised all the time which is not the way their bodies are designed to work.

Oh my goodness! a vet who talks sense about cat nutrition - I love him 

[Mark]

The vet didn't consider it. He just went through how I can keep Willow's weight up while restricting Kylie's food (not easy). He is very anti-grazing and said it is the cause of diabetes as cats naturally would kill and gorge then go without for 24hrs and the way a lot eat now causes their blood sugar to be raised all the time which is not the way their bodies are designed to work.

[Bazsmum]

Not knowing much about thyroid probs in cats like I know it in humans....Could it be possible that an underactive thryroid could be behind her weight gain? 

[Mark]

She is on the sunbed in the garden now rather than hunched up in her house 

She has managed to gain more weight 6.37kg  - she really doesn't eat that much.

I think she can't have been feeling great this morning as the vets had 3 of their own dogs running around. Kylie was inches away from Sally's Sunshine and didn't react at all 

The only other person in there was a lady who took 2 CP cats last year.

[clarenmax]

Glad she's on the mend 

Good luck with your tests too hun 

[Gillian Harvey]

Either she was getter better already

Aint that just typical?!! 

Glad she's feeling better. 

[Maddiesmum]

Glad she has perked up, bloody slugs I hate them

[Mark]

Already she is in the garden belly-up for a fuss 

Either she was getter better already or the meds are helping already?

OH said it's more likely she is just happy to be home 

[Bazsmum]

Positive vibes for the jabs to work their magic on our resident Bouncer girl! 

[Tiggy's Mum]

Glad she seems to be perking up a bit  Good luck for your procedure too

[Dawn F]

glad she is sorted, hope you get on ok too

[Janeyk]

Hopefully Kylie will soon be much better 

[Mark]

She has a temperature of 40^o - he said that is very high as 39 is considered a fever. He gave her 2 convenia jabs and 5 days antibiotics. He said it could be a virus which is untreatable but there is usually a secondary bacterial infection with a virus. He said I should see an improvement by tonight as her temperature comes down. I asked what was likely to have caused it an he said these things usually have no explanation. I asked if Slug slime could and he said it is a possibility. I will get some copper tape for her garden house.

When I got back (5 mile drive) she went straight for the food dish. James was surprised that she favours k/d but said it isn't a problem. She then stretched out on the kitchen floor. I went to give her a head scratch and she was double purring with a kink on the end of her tail (total relaxation) - I guess she is just glad to be back. So I just took my first meds 3 1/2 hours late - hope it works in time 

Sally was in the waiting room with Sunshine and Yindee  - I saw Yindee's back but she likes to be covered with a blanket at the vets 

[Kittybabe (Ruth)]

Hoping it's all ok, Mark

[clarenmax]

Best of luck Mark, hope she's just a bit off-colour and its the warm weather making her lethargic 

[LadyJane]

Hope everything is OK Mark.

[Mark]

She is getting an early appt so off to vets now.

[Mark]

She had a slug trail on her back last night. Usually when I touch her back she gets annoyed but she just let me wipe it off with a tissue.

Since I posted earlier, I took some wet food out to her and she had a few mouthfuls. Then she had a little drink from a dish in the garden (unusual) and then went inside for a drink. She has been sitting by the fountain for the last 5 minutes. OH said it was out of character for her to stay in her garden house all night but it isn't when it is warm (around 21^o overnight).

I was supposed to take my first "dose of salts" at 7am but I will hold off until I have spoken to the vet. There are a few options. Either the vet comes here this afternoon (would rather not as I won't be very well later  ), OH could possibly leave work early and take her in a cab (he never got round to getting a UK licence) or if the vet thinks it's OK, he can take her in a cab tomorrow as he is working from home to be here when I get home - I will be sedated so won't be able to drive.

She does seem better than an hour ago - she seemed quite unresponsive. OH said if I cancelled my appointment, how long would it take to get another but I don't think that is possible as the GP would have pais quite a lot of money to the private hospital I an booked with? - If it was a matter of life or death, I wouldn't think twice but just wonder if she is out of sorts. I'm not sure if the Milbemax was a good idea but I know vets often advise "worm and keep an eye"

Bad timing Kylie! 

Apart from having to go to the vet for an absess 7 years ago, she has never been sick although one of her eyes gets a bit watery from time to time.

[Janeyk]

I wonder if it's the warm weather that' getting her down a bit?

[Mark]

She is really dopey this morning 


The problem I have is that I am supposed to take pre-op medication at 7am ready for a procedure tomorrow morning and on a fasting diet so unable to drive. I'm not going to risk Kylie's life but don't know what to do.

[Mark]

For the last couple of days, she has been behaving a bit odd. She is still eating etc but just seems to have lost her fire. She was in the garden this morning and didn't even go after the neighbours cat. Willow went close to her without realiseing and didn't get chased. I can't put my finger on it but she just seems to have had a personailty change. Naturally I am keeping an eye and will get her to the vet if there are any other signs. She even wolfed 2 Webbox tonight (with a milbemax hidden in one bit  )

Any ideas?