Sorry if you feel offended by my post Kezmayuk, I love parents who show their children how to treat pets with respect, but that pic just looked as though the kitten wasn't being properly held, I was just passing comment on that. I actually have read your entire post. The point of forums isn't just for everyone to post nice posts, if we see something that is wrong, we have to say something, and not everyone will like it. And I probably would say it to your face - my comment about mum and siblings was in response to CC's post, she is lucky that her family has got on, not everyone is that lucky, so it was just to make you aware that they dont always get on, even my vet was surprised when I told her that. My reasoning for 'telling' people to get their cats spayed is that I have had to have a cat put to sleep less than 2 months after adopting her due to her having mammary cancer because she was never spayed. Plus the fact that I Would love for us to have a nice summer without a lot of mums and kittens, esp better than last year when we had to have 2 litters put to sleep, and lost 2 mum cats as well.