Agghhhh - poor cats

[COSMIC CREEPERS]

i take on bord what your saying about that breeder but there not all the same


i have had a bad expirence with rescues but there also not all the same

we both have our views and it wouldnt do to all be the same

im sure im not the only person to have bought a pedigree from a breeder 

[Cheesecat]

i was able to see she was brought up in a home socialised well the parents were good temp

I dont mean to be funny, but that does seem to be the only thing that the breeder did do right!

I know some rescues make mistakes but I am also of the view that there are too many cats out there dying for a home to justify extensive breeding. I know many will not share that view but that is me.

[Hippykitty]

Obviously the rescue didn't know this dog very well. Most of the rescue cats I've had have come with advise concerning what was known of their history. Even the ferals have been calmed with time and patience.
I hate to suggest it, but did you know how to treat an animal with a poor history before taking it in? Animals are not goods which you buy in a shop, expecting them to be in perfect condition. This applies to pedigrees and rescues. You deal with what comes along. If you don't have the time, patience or empathy, perhaps pet-ownership isn't for you.
As Mango's breeder didn't deflea or worm the cats in her care, how can you trust that they were also vaccinated, or that the mother and stud were FLV negative? In what way would this make a breeder preferable to a caring rescue? Both my present cats were neutered, vaccinated, and known in personality by the woman who ran the rescue centre from which I got them.
May I suggest that you have a rethink concerning your plans.

[Ela]

would never again have a rescue animal i know not all are the same but you never know what your getting unless they are a pup or kitten

Obviously there are some rescurs that don't  tell the truth and will say anything to re-home, however,  I think most rescues are very selective when choseing a home. I know we put a lot into finding homes for our little ones. We like to assess the cats for a while and get it right.

[COSMIC CREEPERS]

well i speek from expirence

 i have had a rescue dog who we got at age approx 2 , we loved him but had nothing but problems he cost me a lot of money at the behaviourist with no solution  and hated
children we had to walk only were there were no familys ( very hard ) he nipped a child had to shut him away when family members children came round it was a compleate nightmare but we struggled on for 6 yrs untill he got cancer and sadly died  he was nothing but heartbreak to us ) the kennels said that he was fine with children and pets i dont think they even checked as he was a stray . When we found he had these problems we had already got attached and could not pts or put him back in kennels

i would never again have a rescue animal i know not all are the same but you never know what your getting unless they are a pup or kitten ( and then you just dont know the temp of there parents ) my cousin got a pup as a rescue and appart from socialiseing well and puppy class she had a scared nerviouse dog vet said probably just part of his genetic makeup

i went to a breeder for mango as i was able to see she was brought up in a home socialised well the parents were good temp ( yes she does have asthma and i have found out that although the breeder was loving to the kittens and brought them up under foot they were not flead and wormed she did however ring me every 2 wk for a yr to make sure mango was fine  )
 i would go breeder everytime you just have to reserch the breeder properly

if i get anouther persian i have found a different very good breeder

Things are never as stright cut as they may seem

[Ela]

I have a odd eyed white cat and would like more details

Over the years we have had many white cats with odd eyes, some of them have been deaf on the blue side.

[Ela]

I don't want to be controversial again

As far as I am concerned you are not. Also the fact that someone will pay hundreds of pounds for a cat does not automatically ensure a good home. We are constantly being offered cats that people have paid hundreds for and now don't want. Some will say they will be from  the so called bad breeders who do not do enough checks but that is not true. I know of breeders  in the cat/dog world who were well known  (one a crufts judge) and well thought of, yet the pets they bred still went on to suffer and some at their own hands. Some say I don't want the breed to die out, that will never happen as there are far too many irresponsible breeders and should it happen would it be such a bad thing? I personally would rather a breed die out than even one suffer. A relation of mine who used to breed and was a Crufts Judge (not the breeder mentioned earlier) one day suddenly said I am having all the dogs neutered/spayed there are far too many animals suffering and in rescue for me to be able to justify breeding.

I appreciate that many will not agree with me but I like you am entitled to my opinion and my opinion is based on the terrible things that happen to many pets. In my opinion even one pet suffering is one too many.

[Millys Mum]

Emailed the guy about his "breeding programme."

Can you IM me his email addy? I have a odd eyed white cat and would like more details   

[Susanne (urbantigers)]

I felt really mad reading this months cat world magazine (think it was cat world - could have been your cat) as there was a letter in the question/answer pages from someone with an unspayed 4 yr old female who was peeing outside the litter box.  The writer said that s/he wanted to breed (think the cat was a persian) but was having a problem finding a stud cat.  I forget the details but it was something like that.  What made me really mad was that the answer completely ignored the breeding/unspayed aspect and just addressed the peeing problem     Think I'm going to have to write in about that.

[Hippykitty]

I don't want to be controversial again, but I disagree with pedigree breeding even, especially when there are so many cats and kittens needing good homes. Why do people want to buy pedigrees when they can give a good home to a cat who is living in a shelter?
All the cats I've had have been unwanted moggies. One was given to me by a boyfriend who was a vet (the owners told them to pts rather than pay the bill - she had a broken leg).
Some people!

[Desley (booktigger)]

If he had a controlled breeding programme, he wouldn't be searching the freeads for suitable cats, he would have enough reputable, responsible breeders willing to help. So sad though, he is going to do it regardless, and as Ela says, many of these will end up in rescue.

[Ela]

have homes waiting for my pedigree kittens

How many times have we heard that?  Where does he think all the cats in pedigree rescues up and down the country came from, they are not all from people who have sadly passed away, many are from the so called good homes these breeders find.

[JackSpratt]

Emailed the guy about his "breeding programme." Asked him to take into consideration the amount of cats already looking for homes. Got this reply:

hi
i am well aware how many cats are looking for homes but what has this got to do with me
my cats are in a controlled breeding programme not bred willy nilly and i always have homes waiting for my pedigree kittens
thanks for your concern

Pedigree kittens?! How are cats bred from a white cat with odd eyes pedigree?!

[Desley (booktigger)]

Aww, the poor things. I do hope they all find good homes.

[COSMIC CREEPERS]

shes a very silly woman

[Ela]

but its not asthma theres no such thing in cats !!

She ought to advise Cats Protection HQ of that then as they have a leaflet about cats and Asthma, looks like they are wasting their money producing a leaflet for a condition that is a figment of their imagination.

[COSMIC CREEPERS]

well i think they give good breeders a bad name , we have sold our house and are looking for a little house with a little land or big back garden  for a cattery , i really want to go into showing and it might also mean later breeding

although i would never advertise on these sites , i cant see the point in breeding to just sell , it has to be to improve breedand show  standard not to rake in cash

i got mango from what i though was a good breeder i was wrong she has astma and eating problems . I rang the breeder and she said that her male has breathing probs somtimes but its not asthma theres no such thing in cats !! she hasnt got a clue and is breeding from bad stock , she alo advertises on free ads 

you live and learn

i dont look on there anymore its too upsetting and tempting

[Ela]

Just been looking on Preloved in the cat section - something I very rarely do.

A lot of true  pet lovers post on there then. It makes me so cross, breed rescues as just as full to bursting as moggy rescues. Also the allergy  thing makes me angry too, most allergies can be overcome if we want them too and of course I had better not start on the cats and babies theme. I may just fall of my horse at it would be so high.

[Michelle (furbabystar)]

 

Just had a quick look !!
Does my head in -
So many kittens and cats needing homes and people STILL wanting to breed !
Oh and then theres the poor breeding queens that are not wanted anymore as they have served their  purpose

 

[JackSpratt]

Just been looking on Preloved in the cat section - something I very rarely do.

One lady giving up her two cats due to "allergy and pregnancy", another person looking for a white cat with odd eyes " for breeding program" and a poor little siamese guy being exchanged because he's not female! (Presumably, they want to breed siamese cats!)

Yep, don't think I'll look on there for another few months!