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Re: Email received
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2008, 23:29:46 PM »
Posting on a local Freecycle site. Kitten wanted, not a Christmas present but to replace the daughter's budgies that have died, must be old enough to leave mum.

Well, looking at this in its sum of its parts so to speak.

1. Not a Xmas present, ummm, this close to Xmas, pull the other one it has bells on it.
2. To replace budgies, yep, cat/budgie/cat, of course they take very similar looking after don't they?
3. Old enough to leave mum, well as we all know joe public thinks old enough is from about 3 weeks on, so if he does not know how old enough, does he seriously think that Joe Bloggs does?  :doh:

I harassed my local freecycle into not putting animal ads on during the build up to Christmas and new year. ;)




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Re: Email received
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2008, 21:48:21 PM »
that just makes me feel sick... I thought it was generally accepted throughout the UK however that pet shops don't sell kittens anymore???  or is this something generally done up here north of the border?? 

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Re: Email received
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2008, 19:29:38 PM »
Urgh, people. I walked past the pet shop in town today and they had a big sign in the window with tinsel on it stating WE HAVE KITTENS IN STOCK. *Rolls eyes* Poor little mites.

Although I personally looove Kittens, and would like to get one next year I would never treat an animal like a gift or an inanimate object which can be sold or traded. It's a little life, not just something to shut your kids up on christmas day then to be forgotten once it passes the "cute" stage. To be honext I would loive to get a cat from 4 months +, but my SO wants a kitten. He's supposed to be the cold hearted man in this relationship XD

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Re: Email received
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2008, 18:32:25 PM »
Posting on a local Freecycle site. Kitten wanted, not a Christmas present but to replace the daughter's budgies that have died, must be old enough to leave mum.

Well, looking at this in its sum of its parts so to speak.

1. Not a Xmas present, ummm, this close to Xmas, pull the other one it has bells on it.
2. To replace budgies, yep, cat/budgie/cat, of course they take very similar looking after don't they?
3. Old enough to leave mum, well as we all know joe public thinks old enough is from about 3 weeks on, so if he does not know how old enough, does he seriously think that Joe Bloggs does?  :doh:
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Re: Email received
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2008, 15:11:38 PM »
Does it say something as well about animal stereotypes and what people think they know when they insist they only want a kitten (I'm asking that genuinely, not being rhetorical etc)?

I thought kittens were the way to go when we first got cats. I was terrified of cats but my husband loved them. When we finally stopped renting together and bought our first house together I decided it was time we got a cat. As I knew it was going to be a learning curve for me I thought a kitten would be better because we would have time to get used to each other and I would be responsible for socialising kitty from the start. We've had 4 kittens ourselves and I fostered and tamed a little feral kitten since then. I loved them all but now I would never choose to have a kitten.

My current cats range from 3 to 6. Bronte is getting closer to 7. Heidi and Huxley were 2.5 when we adopted them and Lexie and Purdey are 3. When we went looking for those 4 to adopt we were both dead certain we didn't want kittens. Not only did we not want to go back to that kitten stage but we didn't want to put Dino and Bronte through living with kittens. We also have a 2 year old daughter and a 4 year old son so for us that meant we needed a cat rather than a kitten.

Its with experience that I have learnt the joy of adopting a cat rather than a kitten but before I had that experience I thought kittens were the most suitable as well.

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Re: Email received
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2008, 22:24:55 PM »
to be honest Julie I don't think they actually bother to look who they are sending it to until they get a response saying yes!

totally know what you mean though... glad you had a vent and feel better about it... sometimes you really could scream at humans couldn't you?!?! :hug:
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Re: Email received
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2008, 22:18:41 PM »
This woman has just sent - word for word - exactly the same email in response to our P**** advert. The ad clearly states 'Canterbury and District Cats Protection'.  :innocent:

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Re: Email received
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2008, 17:43:25 PM »
I feel sorry for folks who'll never know what it's like to save a life and be rewarded 10 fold.  :shy:

So true, an older cat whos had a very hard time of it is so grateful for a new home, they have no trouble loving their new owner unconditionally  :Luv:
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Re: Email received
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2008, 16:44:00 PM »
Caledonia, I did say - in the very same post! - I have rehomed a kitten to this area in the past. They were good people who approached the right way and whose only concern was to show me they could provide a good home.

So no, we don't judge folks on their address - in fact you'll find we rehome in areas other rescues are not prepared to even investigate. I can give direct case examples of successful rehomings to folks who lived on 'bad' estates, etc. But idiots have a way of selecting themselves for rejection and a good half of them come from Newington - maybe it's just coincidence, then?  :evillaugh:

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Re: Email received
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2008, 14:07:39 PM »

So whichever part of Ramsgate it comes from I am afraid I would not be sending any living animal there, in fact whichever part of the world, it came from my answer would be the same ...

I totally agree - its the tone of the e-mail which is wrong wrong wrong and gives the wrong 'feel' from the person but I think the e- mail is about the person and their attitude and not their home address!

Either way here is hoping they have no success elsewhere!!  :censored:
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Re: Email received
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2008, 13:51:19 PM »
Julie, it does seem a common thing for people to say "as close to eight weeks as possible." Anything over six months seems to be considered too old to some people. :-:

I gotta be honest ...and you are going to hate me now..but i always want an 8wk old kitten (or there abouts) as i just love the kitten stage but hopefully that doesnt make me a bad person  :shy:

No, it really doesn't. I like kittens but have always preferred the age range of 2 - 5 for some reason!




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Re: Email received
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2008, 13:47:23 PM »
Caledonia, I agree, it is all to easy to generalise about people on the basis of a range of prejudgements. But in this case the tone of the email is definitely peremptory 'you're welcome to do a home check ... get back to me asap as would want one as soon as'

I am afraid that sums it up - lets just get this ridiculous homecheck business out of the way as long as you give me the  :censored: cat (or rather, kitten) is a loose translation of this email. They are no more interested in the animal as a living being than dogs are interested in high fashion. It is something they want for their brat before christmas and they will jump through whatever hoops are necessary, distasteful though it may be  >:(

So whichever part of Ramsgate it comes from I am afraid I would not be sending any living animal there, in fact whichever part of the world, it came from my answer would be the same ...

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Re: Email received
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2008, 13:38:37 PM »
Well, part of the clue to tell me what background the sender of the email comes from is the location. Ramsgate does have some very nice parts but it does also have a thick pocket of 'problem' families the authorities - council, police, immigration services - have placed there. The subdistrict of Newington is more or less accepted as a containment area.  :innocent: Not that I know for sure this person comes from Newington but I'll still have a fiver on it.  :shify:

Whilst you might be right with these people and they may well be one of the 'problem' families I think the day and age of 'judging' someone on their address belgongs well in the past! I live in the biggest council estate in Edinburgh and have did for most of my adult life - I mention Wester Hailes and people raise their eye brows! I also however own my own home, am a single woman with three bedrooms and a split level flat who earns a good wage and have two very spoilt cats! I would hate to think that I would e-mail a rescue about a cat and because I lived in Wester Hailes - they think I am the wrong sort! 

I also know through my work in social services that sadly those lovely homes in the right side of town also harbour nasties just as much as the deprived areas  - we just don't all hear about it so much!

I guess maybe I was lucky in that the rescue I re-home my furbabes from was based further afield and didn't know the 'reputation' of my area!!

But come on folks - surely you want a 'feel' for the people and not the area they live in regardless of who housed them. Through my job I see the worst in my area but doing Kleeneze I have also discovered that in actual fact that vast majority of my neighbours are hard working, law abiding, clean living folk in comfortable houses that I am sure any rescue would be happy to pass home check - and I am sure the rest of the UK is no different!

Sorry I took this off topic but I don't really think it is fair to make judgements about areas and what our assumptions are of the people that live there!
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Re: Email received
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2008, 11:08:24 AM »
I agree - the way Alice looks at me (and talks to me), I'm sure she knows  :Luv2:
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Re: Email received
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2008, 10:15:50 AM »
Well, part of the clue to tell me what background the sender of the email comes from is the location. Ramsgate does have some very nice parts but it does also have a thick pocket of 'problem' families the authorities - council, police, immigration services - have placed there. The subdistrict of Newington is more or less accepted as a containment area.  :innocent: Not that I know for sure this person comes from Newington but I'll still have a fiver on it.  :shify:

We have rehomed in Ramsgate before, mind you, but only when 'native' rescues can't help. The last time that springs to mind is when my tamed down feral kitten 'Toast' went there. Toast's new owners have been brilliant and done everything that I asked plus gave us a whacking great donation. They had been searching for a ginger kitten for ages and it just so happened I was the only rescuer for 30 miles who had one.  :evillaugh:

If I had time to waste, I might well have put together an email to this email sender to tell her about by beloved bridge babe Tooshy. He just walked into my door on summer's evening, a silver tabby full tom aged about 3 years and half dead with terrible weeping abscesses. I was 17 years old and earning a pittance, nontheless I did what you have to do and it cost me 5 weeks wages to have him fixed him up. He never forgot that and spent the rest of his days following me around like a love sick puppy. He worshipped the ground I walked on and always slept on my pillow. When I woke in the morning, his arm was always drapped around my face.  :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: I feel sorry for folks who'll never know what it's like to save a life and be rewarded 10 fold.  :shy:

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Re: Email received
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2008, 09:28:14 AM »
Apart from the hassle of Christmas, I hate the idea of kittens being given as presents to a child! The  novelty soon wears off with the child, then when the kitten pees in the wrong place, or accidentally scratches, it wears off with the parents.

I'm not homing the lean-to cats until they've been neutered. When I start looking for homes I might lie a little about their ages, after all what's a few weeks out of the years a cat could live?

Personally, I think kittens are cute, but too much trouble. I prefer sedate, elderly cats. It's much better now Fred and Victoria are growing up and settling into my chaotic lifestyle. Fred is becoming so lovable! He was a flesh-tearing hissing feral last year. Victoria is slowly following behind her brother. She's much more aloof, though; if she was human, she'd be looking down her nose at everyone.  :rofl:

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Re: Email received
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2008, 08:10:48 AM »
I dont understand why people dont think an older kitten will bond - we have just taken in a 15wo who was acquired at the age of 6 weeks, she has dealt with fleas etc, got him vacc'd, but now giving him up due to him biting her daughter when her daughter is holding him!! His options were us or advertised as a Christmas present. I actually find people turn down kittens from teh age of 4 months for being too old, Oscar was with us about a month, despite only being 4 months, solid ginger and fluffy - normally the most popular combination. We dont home kittens over Christmas regardless, but we would consider adults if the person was having a very quiet Christmas. Apart from the one we have just taken in, the only kittens we have have only just turned 8 weeks, so they will be a much better age when we open again.
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Re: Email received
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2008, 08:01:54 AM »
I don't know why people think they, and their children, can't bond with a cat older than 8 weeks  :Crazy: :Crazy:

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Re: Email received
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2008, 07:23:57 AM »
You see I wouldn't be too happy by that request tbh.  When we got our first cats we said kittens, Penny was about 14 weeks and then a year later we adopted Squeaky at about 16 weeks (they weren't sure) we then were told to get them spayed and neutured which we did.  I woudn't have dared say any younger, kittens are kittens and the rate they grow anyway, I would just be suspicious of that, what in a couple of months when they have grown?   
eta:  Infact (I know it's many years ago now) but I'm sure that when we asked for kittens we were told we couldn't have them younger than 3-4 months - but that was fine for us  :)

We prefer to just have oldies now  :)

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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2008, 02:45:45 AM »
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as i just love the kitten stage but hopefully that doesnt make me a bad person 


It doesn't make you a bad person, but each time I have kittens it reminds me why I don't want one. ;D Unfortunately I have been reminded far too often recently.
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2008, 02:41:53 AM »
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But I think all rescues have stopped rehoming kittens for the duration of Christmas now.
We haven't. Although we would not home a kitten or a cat now until after the New Year where there were young children as even if the family say they are having a quiet family Christmas I think there would be something wrong if there is young children and all was quiet.

We have no problem homing when the circumstances are right. e.g. say someone like myself wanted a couple of kittens and I was off work for a couple of weeks between now and the New Year and was having a very quiet family Christmas, (which would be the case if we didn't go away). Or perhaps  someone who was planning a quiet Christmas and lost a much loved cat on the run up to Christmas,  I think we would be foolish to deny kittens or cats the chance of a long term loving home.

As far as we are concerned nothing is black and white. Each case is judged on the personal circumstances.

 I have to say I too get annoyed about the request you posted and no way would we home just now in those circumstances.
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Re: Email received
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2008, 01:36:21 AM »
You may regret those words come April time, Michelle. I haven't just got the b*m of an elephant but the memory to match!  :rofl: :rofl:

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Re: Email received
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2008, 00:42:15 AM »
I would deff foster !

Love nothing better than a kitten...When my Issey had 4 kittens it was the best time of my life, yes including the 2hr feeds and stimulating their bottoms ....i had to bottle feed them as she had mastitus and all 4 survived (they are 4yrs old, kept the all  :evillaugh:)


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Re: Email received
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2008, 00:14:52 AM »
No, not at all, Michelle. I can understand folks who want to follow a kitten's little changes through adolescence to adulthood. Charting the changes every day. The first venture outside. The first time they trot in, proud as punch, with their first catch. I can understand all of that.  :briggin:

The difference is you'll be prepared to commit to that 8 week kitten far beyond its small, cute stage, Michelle but others, sadly are not.  :(

Just had a thought.... If you really love the kitten stage, ever thought about fostering? Come the spring my bathroom will be alive with them. I could lend you a kitten pen?  :gimme: :evillaugh:

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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2008, 00:01:00 AM »
Julie, it does seem a common thing for people to say "as close to eight weeks as possible." Anything over six months seems to be considered too old to some people. :-:

I gotta be honest ...and you are going to hate me now..but i always want an 8wk old kitten (or there abouts) as i just love the kitten stage but hopefully that doesnt make me a bad person  :shy:

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2008, 23:44:48 PM »
Kittens between 6 months and 1 year have always been hard to rehome I have found. And I really get cross with people thinking 6 weeks is acceptable!  >:(

Depending on your veiwpoint, unfortunately or fortunately, we have no kittens at all right now - not even new borns. So I can just tell all these people I can't help them.  :shy: Wherever possible I pass on details of other rescues I know still have kittens and it's up to them to sift out the time wasters from the genuine ones. But I think all rescues have stopped rehoming kittens for the duration of Christmas now.

Thing is, I worked in a toy shop at the time Furbys were the must-have Christmas toy. Manning the emails and phone lines today has felt exactly the same at that. The only thing different are the things people asking for.  :innocent:

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Re: Email received
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2008, 23:28:59 PM »
Julie, it does seem a common thing for people to say "as close to eight weeks as possible." Anything over six months seems to be considered too old to some people. :-:




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Re: Email received
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2008, 23:20:17 PM »

The petshop in Margate must be sold out so the chavs are getting desparate.





That's nice !

They never bother coming near us the rest of the year as they know we have strict policies about vaccinations and neutering and we'll check to make sure it's done.  :sneaky: But they've promised little junior a kitty for Christmas and it's getting like a rummage sale to grab the last available few. At any other time of year they'd just go into the petshop without a second's thought and never concider a rescue. Quick, simple and no questions. Like I say, they are getting desparate and even prepared to face a rescue centre's home check and grilling rather have tears on Christmas Day.  >:(

The lady that wrote us that email made it plain she wants a kitten NOW!! And that's what I can't stand.... all the inpatience. The complete lack of concideration for the fact they are SUPPOSED to be making a 20+ year commitment which deserves as much, if not more thought and consultation than deciding whether buying a house and getting a 20 year mortgage is a good idea.  :'(

Sorry.... just a tad jaded here even after just one day. Heaven knows how Sharon does it day after day. I could have homed ALL of our cats today but their sin was being well over 8 weeks old - what chance does a loving older puss have of his place by the Christmas fireside?

Crikey... that was a good old rant! I feel better now!  :wow:

Can't wait for Sharon to get back.  :tired:


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Re: Email received
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2008, 22:55:05 PM »

The petshop in Margate must be sold out so the chavs are getting desparate.





That's nice !

They never bother coming near us the rest of the year as they know we have strict policies about vaccinations and neutering and we'll check to make sure it's done.  :sneaky: But they've promised little junior a kitty for Christmas and it's getting like a rummage sale to grab the last available few. At any other time of year they'd just go into the petshop without a second's thought and never concider a rescue. Quick, simple and no questions. Like I say, they are getting desparate and even prepared to face a rescue centre's home check and grilling rather have tears on Christmas Day.  >:(

The lady that wrote us that email made it plain she wants a kitten NOW!! And that's what I can't stand.... all the inpatience. The complete lack of concideration for the fact they are SUPPOSED to be making a 20+ year commitment which deserves as much, if not more thought and consultation than deciding whether buying a house and getting a 20 year mortgage is a good idea.  :'(

Sorry.... just a tad jaded here even after just one day. Heaven knows how Sharon does it day after day. I could have homed ALL of our cats today but their sin was being well over 8 weeks old - what chance does a loving older puss have of his place by the Christmas fireside?

Crikey... that was a good old rant! I feel better now!  :wow:

Can't wait for Sharon to get back.  :tired:

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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2008, 22:30:32 PM »
8 weeks or just over, eh? Never understood that one myself!




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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2008, 22:28:39 PM »

The petshop in Margate must be sold out so the chavs are getting desparate.





That's nice !
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2008, 22:00:36 PM »
Here was this evening's offering from Canterbury CP's inbox.  :shy:

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[we are lookin into re-homing a young kitten, we live in ramsgate. it will have to be an 8week old kitten or just over that as i want him/her to bond with my daughter from a young age. you are welcome to come round to have a check, please would you be able to get back to me asap as would want one as soon as.

The petshop in Margate must be sold out so the chavs are getting desparate.

Thankfully they are outside our area so I told them to try elsewhere.  :innocent:

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