Author Topic: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors  (Read 16231 times)

Offline CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls

  • Royal Cat
  • ******
  • Posts: 8612
  • Ollie Bonga
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2008, 20:31:34 PM »
Im not really getting this at all, does she have to get rid of all of her cats/ animals? And is working from home but with no license? Will she just carry on taking more cats in?
Just because your out of sight, does not mean your out of mind <3

Offline Dawn (DiddyDawn)

  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 5613
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2008, 20:30:21 PM »
Alright hun, I should point out I am quite sane so you don't get the wrong idea  ;)

Offline Pinkbear (Julie)

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 6840
  • Where are we supposed to sleep, then?
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2008, 20:29:13 PM »
I will PM the names Rhonda CP gave to me as known offenders. See if they spring up on your radar?  :shify:

Offline Dawn (DiddyDawn)

  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 5613
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2008, 20:26:28 PM »
If you want I'll contact a few people and see if they've heard of her and what they know  :shy:  If I can help in any way give me a shout anyway  :hug:  :hug:

everyone sane is pretty much powerless without proof.

Some of my contacts are a little insane  :innocent:

Offline Pinkbear (Julie)

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 6840
  • Where are we supposed to sleep, then?
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2008, 20:23:37 PM »
I really don't know what can be done here if others have failed. I know what I'd LIKE to do with her!  >:( If someone is nice, sweet and smiling, keeps their standards just above legal limits, everyone sane is pretty much powerless without proof.

I think by helping her clear the decks, we are only condemning the next poor creatures, aren't we?

cc you hit the nail on the head. People in white coats aren't interested in winning a cat's confidence, hence why she's ditching the spitty ones.  :(

All that can be done is spread the word and be vigilant. None of this had ever got online because no one involved has access. Beware that this kind of thing exists - it was a complete revelation to me!  :Crazy: Beware of new rescues springing up who take in masses of animals with no proven track record. The lady from Rhonda CP said she is paranoid now about anyone she doesn't know. She hears about big rescue runs and always wonders if they are legit but can't do anything.  :(

I will try by best with CP HQ but can only pray she's in breach of a new law or something....  :wish:

Offline Dawn (DiddyDawn)

  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 5613
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2008, 19:57:28 PM »
Julie, I may be able to help if you want  :hug:

Offline Mark

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Purrrrrfect Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 33326
  • Clapton
    • AnimalAid - Support Humane Charities
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2008, 19:55:12 PM »
The RSPCA makes me sick - how much evidence do they need?
DO NOT BREED OR BUY WHILE SHELTER ANIMALS DIE

I believe I am not interested to know whether Vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't. To know that the results are profitable to the race would not remove my hostility to it.  Mark Twain

Offline CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls

  • Royal Cat
  • ******
  • Posts: 8612
  • Ollie Bonga
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2008, 19:43:11 PM »
My goodness, I can understand the woman wanting to help but there must be a limit! If it were like that we would all have our homes full of cats. And its not like the cats that are needing homes are the ones that are sociable enough to live in one  :(
Just because your out of sight, does not mean your out of mind <3

Offline Pinkbear (Julie)

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 6840
  • Where are we supposed to sleep, then?
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2008, 19:33:19 PM »
Dawn, I have just got off the phone with Rhonda CP. I'm happy I waited because I now have it first hand from someone on the scene.

 I am in bits.... totally, totally in bits!  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:

She is one of three well known 'dealers' Rhonda CP have been tackling. All local authorities are aware but they cannot quite get enough evidence. They've even had the Cook Report on her.

She collects the feral kittens from the valleys and unwanted pets. It used to be dogs but is now mainly cats. The RSPCA followed her van to several universities... I would think they ones she's trying to shift are not wanted at those places. That's all I can say about this woman.  :'( :'( :'(  :sick: :sick: :sick:

I am told by Rhonda CP there is a massive, massive problem in their part of Wales of so called 'rescues' starting up and diverting pets to all kinds of horrid places. The locals are told, and believe that places like the home counties have spare capacity and less than legit 'rescues' are mingling with respected ones and pretend to do mercy runs to bring animals out of Wales and Ireland. Rhonda CP are happy to speak to anyone who can help and have a dosier inches thick. Unfortunately no one is computer literate. At least I can do something on that score.... I will be writing to HQ tomorrow to make them fully aware of the situation as I gather they don't know about this as Rhonda CP are now dejected and run out of ideas.  :(

Offline Dawn (DiddyDawn)

  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 5613
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2008, 18:51:22 PM »
Julie, if I can help through any of my contacts let me know  :hug:

Offline Pinkbear (Julie)

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 6840
  • Where are we supposed to sleep, then?
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2008, 14:12:52 PM »
There is a history here it would seem. If all cats were removed right now, I doubt they'd be a long term point.  :tired: Dogs are involved as well.  :'(

I've asked our senior peeps to pull HQ's chain. This does require a visit to confirm what I've heard and if it is, this will go further.  ;)

Offline CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls

  • Royal Cat
  • ******
  • Posts: 8612
  • Ollie Bonga
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2008, 14:02:04 PM »
My goodness, I know you cant say whats going on but is she a rescue or just a lone person or what? I really hope something gets sorted soon.
Just because your out of sight, does not mean your out of mind <3

Offline madkittyrescue

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Super Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 2584
  • Sarah, slave to the 4 legged furball gang!
    • Sunny Harbour Cat & Kitten Rescue
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2008, 13:53:26 PM »
Hi Julie,

I know I'm gazzillions of miles away ;) but if we canhelp in any way let me know. :hug:
Sunny Harbour Cat & Kitten Rescue
Covering Fife, Edinburgh & Lothians

http://www.sunnyharbour.org.uk

Offline Pinkbear (Julie)

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 6840
  • Where are we supposed to sleep, then?
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2008, 13:40:07 PM »
I have further information about this case and I need help!  :-[

Please PM for details as I can't post much onlist. I need someone nearby or who is able to visit to view this place. I fear it's worse than I first suspected. Possible case for 'higher' involvement.

Ta

Offline Pinkbear (Julie)

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 6840
  • Where are we supposed to sleep, then?
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2008, 21:36:22 PM »
Yes, she has 2 weeks to remove all the cats and is desperate for help.  :(

Offline CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls

  • Royal Cat
  • ******
  • Posts: 8612
  • Ollie Bonga
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2008, 21:25:19 PM »
So its all been a missunderstanding on the freecycle posters part, but this rescue does need help?
Just because your out of sight, does not mean your out of mind <3

Offline Pinkbear (Julie)

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 6840
  • Where are we supposed to sleep, then?
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2008, 21:19:47 PM »
I've seen on RHU several offers to take a couple of cats by other rescues, but no one seem to be co ordinating. Transport will be a major issue as most offers seem to be from miles away in places like Nottingham. Seeing as the lady asking for help - Wendy - doesn't have access to the internet, she's relying on others and I think the Freecycle ad was an attempt by a well wisher to help. So... it's a bit chaotic!  :tired:

Offline CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls

  • Royal Cat
  • ******
  • Posts: 8612
  • Ollie Bonga
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2008, 21:10:25 PM »
Any more news?
Just because your out of sight, does not mean your out of mind <3

Offline Gill (sneakiefeline)

  • Rainbow Bridge/Rescue/Moderating Staff
  • Purrrrrfect Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 73567
  • Misa at 4yrs old and new with me
  • Slave to: Misa, Sasa, Franta Napoleon RIP, Ducha RIP and Lupin, Kocka RIP
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2008, 18:21:48 PM »
there is an update on this story from julie but she isnt able to post at present.

the censored version is, that someone has done something a bit naughty and this situation is not as reported.

Julie may be able to give more info but i dont know.

I believe but am not certain that these cats are not in immedite danger

Offline Pinkbear (Julie)

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 6840
  • Where are we supposed to sleep, then?
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2008, 15:47:49 PM »
Don't exactly know the circumstances of this rescue, other than the appeal on RHU lists a similar intinary of cats and they have 2 weeks to sort something. I gather a few respected forum members have spoken to this lady on the phone and say she sounds lovely and caring but going potty trying to find homes ASAP.

I confess I didn't get too heavily involved in the thread as I can't do much this far away, but the feeling I have that is this is a well intentioned person got way on over their heads and for whatever reason they have to shut - could be council regs perhaps???  :shify:

Offline tinkers

  • Adult Cat
  • ***
  • Posts: 77
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2008, 15:43:37 PM »
wish i cud help but im too far away

Offline madasacatter

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Senior Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 382
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2008, 15:37:41 PM »
Yes it would be in that area.  I knew there was a rescue out there desperate, but I thought it was a dog one. 
Coventry Cat Group

Offline Pinkbear (Julie)

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 6840
  • Where are we supposed to sleep, then?
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2008, 15:34:42 PM »
Would this be Aberdare?  :shify:

There is a rescue which has to close in 2 weeks and the lady running it is desperate for any and all help. RHU are trying to do something and I suggested trying CP HQ. I don't think she has any intentions of letting the cats go to anyone but circumstances are dire and these babes needs places to go.  ;)

Offline CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls

  • Royal Cat
  • ******
  • Posts: 8612
  • Ollie Bonga
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2008, 15:28:56 PM »
This is awful, why get more than you can resonabily look after! I wish I could help with at least one of the kittens but Im too far away.
Just because your out of sight, does not mean your out of mind <3

Offline Angiew

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 3995
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2008, 15:15:29 PM »
judith, if you email tan she can make you go green like me

Offline madasacatter

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Senior Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 382
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2008, 15:09:02 PM »
Very funny, I know I am busy, but really!  I thought you knew better of me than that.   :briggin:

I may have a little more room when I have done the home visit for the tabby boy on Friday! Finger crossed!
Coventry Cat Group

Offline Angiew

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 3995
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2008, 15:04:19 PM »
lol, judith I thought that was a plea from you at first!

have accepted 2 more kittens today myself!

Offline Gill (sneakiefeline)

  • Rainbow Bridge/Rescue/Moderating Staff
  • Purrrrrfect Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 73567
  • Misa at 4yrs old and new with me
  • Slave to: Misa, Sasa, Franta Napoleon RIP, Ducha RIP and Lupin, Kocka RIP
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2008, 14:38:08 PM »
Please pm me too cos want to know where these are.

Thanks

Offline Dawn (DiddyDawn)

  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 5613
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2008, 14:36:27 PM »
Leave it with me and I'll put a plea out to see if anyone can help  :hug:

Offline madasacatter

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Senior Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 382
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2008, 14:32:03 PM »
I have PM'd you.  Thanks. :briggin:
Coventry Cat Group

Offline Dawn (DiddyDawn)

  • Honorary Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 5613
Re: Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2008, 14:24:02 PM »
Whereabouts in South Wales?  I can put a plea out if you send me the details  :hug:

Offline madasacatter

  • Purrs Registered Cat Rescue
  • Senior Cat
  • *****
  • Posts: 382
Unable to cope - cats free to collectors
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2008, 14:22:41 PM »
Someone in South Wales has posted a list of cats for rehoming, they are said to be on Freecyle and another 2nd hand type of site:-

1x 4 mth tabby female kitten.
1x 5 mth black female kitten.
1x 5 mth nuetered blk n white male kitten.
1x 5 mth black n white unspayed female kitten.
3x semi feral nuetered males.
1x black,1x grey/blue semi long haired.
1x grey n white tabby.
6x nuetered/ spayed blk 3 year olds.
1x blk n white spayed 3 year old.
1x2year old tabby n white nervous spayed female.
1x8 yr mostly blk with white markings nuetered male.
1x8yr mostly white with blk patches nuetered male.
1x 2 yr old tabby spayed female.all must berehomed in two weeks or may have to start putting to sleep.please help, as cant keep them, due to no help from public.please ring,no emails.please state what cat/kitten you are interested.all free to good homes.bring suitable cat carrier, no cardboard boxes.i cant keep up with the demands of the cats.please help them.

I can go back and find her telephone number if any genuine rescue can help these poor creatures. 

Thanks.  >:(
Coventry Cat Group

 


Link to CatChat