Topic: Kitten replacement milk question (Read 5712 times)

Ela · « **Reply #23 on:** February 05, 2007, 08:16:53 AM »

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I may have misheard her when she said "A/D" and thought I heard "K/D" instead

I expect that what has happened I have just said to myself a/d, k/d and it does sound very similar.

Ela · « **Reply #22 on:** February 05, 2007, 08:12:50 AM »

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Ela do you get money through vetuk if we click through a link?

We do, we get 5% thank you for asking.

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #21 on:** February 05, 2007, 08:05:36 AM »

i do hope it is a/d rather than k/d!! Hope you have a good hol.

cattawallawalla · « **Reply #20 on:** February 04, 2007, 19:10:39 PM »

Why, now that you mention it, I may have misheard her when she said "A/D" and thought I heard "K/D" instead. Makes sense.

Thanks for the bon voyages, all! Tata for now!!!! I'm clicking my heels and lifting my umbrella and such. . . .

Team Svartalfheims · « **Reply #19 on:** February 04, 2007, 19:05:00 PM »

It's great stuff isn't it. I always keep some in in case any of the cats are ill.

Ela do you get money through vetuk if we click through a link? I've got about £150 worth of stuff to order over the next few months and wanted to make sure someone other than VetUK got something out of it.

Ela · « **Reply #18 on:** February 04, 2007, 18:56:34 PM »

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Hills AD is a vet diet that is often used to wean kittens

a/d is used a lot by us when we have to syringe feed a cat or kitten and is used for cats of all ages for recovery, debilitation and loss of appetite

Team Svartalfheims · « **Reply #17 on:** February 04, 2007, 18:20:35 PM »

Hills AD is a vet diet that is often used to wean kittens which might be what you are thinking of?

Have a great holiday!

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #16 on:** February 04, 2007, 17:59:10 PM »

hope you have a good break and I am not jeralous, never , not me

Ela · « **Reply #15 on:** February 04, 2007, 17:54:36 PM »

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es, KD is one of those Hills diets. I believe it stands for kitten diet. Of course, what the kidney diet is called, I don't know

UK FOODS

c/d for Feline Lower Urinary Tract Disease including struvite urolithiasis
g/d for feline Early kidney disease and heart disease
k/d for feline Kidney disease and early heart failure

i have not seen a KD even on the USA sites, (then again my eyes are getting old) when talking about Science diet for kittens they say just that for Kittens (No letters)

cattawallawalla · « **Reply #14 on:** February 04, 2007, 17:19:03 PM »

Yes, KD is one of those Hills diets. I believe it stands for kitten diet. Of course, what the kidney diet is called, I don't know. I'm not a big fan of the Hill's stuff and try to move away from it whenever I can. I usually ween from KRM to chicken baby food to Wellness Kitten food and have had good success with that. The KD is what the vet recommended to my friend and so that is what she got.

BTW, the kittens are eating on their own and the eyes are starting to clear up. We are seeing some really nasty viruses out here right now - calici seems to be out there a little more than usual, and my vet has had to hospitalize a few cats for URI's, which is a bit on the unusual side for an adult cat.

Thanks for the chat, everyone! After Superbowl, I'm off to Disney World for a week, so I will drop in when I get back. Now, I have to crate 15 cats to take them to boarding. *shudder*
(I have a fear of leaving them home with a cat sitter. What if there's an earthquake, or someone breaks in and leaves the door open, or the house catches fire? We're a in "brush zone" out here, which means fires can move fast, and it's that fire time of the year.)

Esther

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #13 on:** February 04, 2007, 11:05:10 AM »

Esther - what is KD in the US? Is it one of the Hills Prescription diets? Or is it something else over there?

cattawallawalla · « **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2007, 16:48:09 PM »

That's great info., thanks Teresa. These guys were pulled from the pound, as the pound will euthanize any sick or unweaned cats/kittens or dogs/pups, so there had been absolutely NO vacc., med.'s or supportive care given prior to them being pulled. I will talk to my vet about the flu/ent vacc. next time I have bottle babies.

Esther

Teresa Pawcats · « **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2007, 10:04:32 AM »

Esther
Got to agree with you KRM and URTI do not mix well, I like to get my little ones on solids ASAP in fact the last one was totally on solids at 4 weeks old and he had been at deaths door with a serious chest infection.

Something else I do if I hand rear from newborn is to have the kitten vaccinated for flu/ent at 5 weeks of age to give a little protection, this does not count towards normal vaccinations which we commence at 9 weeks, but is really helpful in kick starting the immune system.

cattawallawalla · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2007, 23:59:15 PM »

Quote from: Teresa Pawcats on January 30, 2007, 10:35:06 AM

Over the last 17 years I have handreared a multitude of orphaned kittens even from birth and never experienced this problem.

The one thing that has started to emerge is that bottle fed kittens are more prone to kidney problems later in life.

Hey Teresa,

I've weaned a few litters too. I'm thinking more if someone has an older kitten that is sick and not eating and they try to feed KRM rather than baby food or KD or such. At any rate, I have a friend out here who got 2 5week olds, nasty URI's and she was hand feeding K/D with KRM, but the eye and nasal congestion was not clearing up. The kittens were getting Clavamox. I suggested she drop the KRM and mix with water or baby food and now one of the kittens has clearer eyes and is eating on her own. Hard to know if this is from the Clavamox finall kicking in, or from removing KRM from the diet. The one that started eating did it within 12 to 15 hours of dropping the KRM, and the last time I heard of this, I think the kitten started clearing up in about 36 hours. It's all anecdotal at this point, but if we start talking about in chat rooms, maybe we'll start seeing a pattern.

BTW, I have googled it, no hits. Still searching.

Interesting about the kidney issues in later life. I have two bottle babies that will not be up for adoption, so maybe I will start doing blood work on them a little earlier than usual.

Thanks for the info., Teresa! It's so important for rescuers to discuss issues with neonates because we're the ones that see what works, doesn't work, etc. Just like feral cat taming.

Esther

Michelle (furbabystar) · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2007, 11:27:19 AM »

Quote from: Teresa Pawcats on January 30, 2007, 10:53:42 AM

I am talking of kidney failure hitting in at middle age instead of later in life.

I better start stocking up on Fortekor now then

Teresa Pawcats · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2007, 10:53:42 AM »

Michelle dont panic, I am talking of kidney failure hitting in at middle age instead of later in life.

Michelle (furbabystar) · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2007, 10:39:18 AM »

Quote from: Teresa Pawcats on January 30, 2007, 10:35:06 AM

The one thing that has started to emerge is that bottle fed kittens are more prone to kidney problems later in life.

I didnt know that Teresa !!
I bottle feed Issey's kittens as she had really bad Mastitus, it was hard work but all 4 survived (My Rocky, Missy, Lilly and Fleur)

Now you have got me worried

Teresa Pawcats · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2007, 10:35:06 AM »

Over the last 17 years I have handreared a multitude of orphaned kittens even from birth and never experienced this problem.

The one thing that has started to emerge is that bottle fed kittens are more prone to kidney problems later in life.

Michelle (furbabystar) · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2007, 09:41:30 AM »

Havent got a clue ! You could try "google" it.

I used Lactose when i bottle feed and didnt have a problem with it

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #4 on:** January 29, 2007, 20:39:11 PM »

doh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks

Sam (Fussy_Furball) · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2007, 20:37:51 PM »

KRM = Kitten Replacement Milk (I assume)

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2007, 20:30:32 PM »

Ummmmmmm for us uneducated ones what is KRM?

cattawallawalla · « **Reply #1 on:** January 29, 2007, 20:08:14 PM »

Hey all,

I am wondering if any of you who have bottle fed have ever heard of KRM causing congestion once the kittens are over a certain age. Just curious. I think someone mentioned that to me once, and I'm curious if anyone else has had that experience with it? Just thought it was worth a shot to ask.

Thanks,

Esther

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