Is urine marking 100% scent or part habit? (ruined rug)

[Mark]

I am still trying to decide - As Xeria are an industrial supplier, the smell might be really chemical. I am using it on heavy drapes so the smell will linger - I will have to decide soon. The smell can't be any worse than regular simple solution  (or cat wee  )

[Team Svartalfheims]

The Anti-Icky Poo doesn't tell you the bacteria count unfortunately. I like the fact the Xeria website does stick on odour absorbers, they sound brilliant!  When I start to run low on A-I-P I might drop Xeria an email and see what products they would recommend for what I need it for.

[Mark]

Thanks 

I bought another American one in a pet shop in herne bay - £5 for 1L - I may try another bottle of that before forking out - It smells of cherry & vanilla 

[Team Svartalfheims]

No problem - I would love to know the bacteria count in anti icky poo as the UK one is 30 billion per 5L

I'm assuming Simple etc is a much lower count - although their other product works much better buy petplanet stopped selling it.

I'll go and have a look if it says on the bottle.

[Mark]

I need it soon though - I may just order the UK one as it is super-super strong for undertakers etc 

If you try the UK stuff can you let me know if it's any good please, thanks.

No problem - I would love to know the bacteria count in anti icky poo as the UK one is 30 billion per 5L

I'm assuming Simple etc is a much lower count - although their other product works much better buy petplanet stopped selling it.

[Mark]

She is a real people cat - she bounds ahead of me at night to get to the bed - she really wouldn't be happy in a shed   She rarely goes outside.

Look how cheap it is in America - I have also asked about the p-bath as they say it neutralises the acid in pee before you use the anti icky poo.

For £20 you get what would be £70 or £80 here   http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=anti+icky+poo

I'm almost tempted to order from ebay rather than pay rip off prices.

[Team Svartalfheims]

I need it soon though - I may just order the UK one as it is super-super strong for undertakers etc 

If you try the UK stuff can you let me know if it's any good please, thanks.

[Team Svartalfheims]

I think Crystal Clear are the sole UK distributors of it Mark  Wish I'd known it was cheaper in the States as I'd have asked Star's owners to see if they could bring me some back from their holiday 


Is Willow a cat that likes spending a lot of time outdoors? The only other thing I can think of if your OH will not consider rehoming Willow would be if you could get a decent size shed and insulate it so it's nice and warm in winter and cool in summer for her, putting sleeping shelves etc in it and Willow having that as her own personal house and then her being out in the garden during the day with you and only in the house under close supervision so she can't wee all over everything. It's far from ideal I know but I don't know what else to suggest 

[Mark]

I need it soon though - I may just order the UK one as it is super-super strong for undertakers etc 

http://www.xeria.co.uk/kolist/1/Pets+Care+Accidents

[Dawn F]

you could contact zooplus and those sort of places as well to see if they could look into stocking it???  I'm always asking easyjet to fly to perugia (never worked yet but one day  )

[Mark]

I have contacted the manufacturers to see if anywhere else in the UK stocks Anti Icky Poo - there may be a seller that isn't on the internet (unlikely but maybe) I can't believe it is £10 in America for a gallon but £38 here. Also, they sell a product called P-bath which is a pre-treatment to neutralise the acid before using Anti Icky Poo.

[Mark]

 

The thing is, a gallon bottle weighs 8 pounds so expensive postage.
I know they have to get it shipped in bulk from the States but crazy that it is nearly 3 x the price here 

[Dawn F]

there's nothing for it, he'll have to contact his mother!!!!

[Mark]

does OH have an american office? we sometimes getting people who are going back and forth to bring things over for us

No they just have an office in Mayfair - it's a small corporate strategy firm.

Years ago I could have done that as I worked for a printer for 10 years and we had an office in NY - we printed the books and index cards for most of the model agencies. swe had a shipment every day. I used to send them British sweets etc 

[Mark]

I am close to a "me or her" situation - it is hard as I do love her.

Oh Mark 

It's so hard as Dennis loves her to bits (so do I). He got her when he was studying for his MBA in France 6/7 years ago - she is 9 or 10 now. and brought her here. She was down as a problem cat at the rescue and he felt sorry for her.

[Dawn F]

does OH have an american office? we sometimes getting people who are going back and forth to bring things over for us

[Mark]

Really annoying that on Ebay, an American seller has 5L Anti Ickypoo for £14 - it's £38 here  

Another seller has a starter kit of 5L anti Ickypoo, a 1L dpray bottle and a 1L spray bottle of another type of urine remover - all for less than £20   - only problem is, shipping to the UK is £45  

There is another UK company selling their own brand of super strength odour remover  they even supply hospitals and funeral homes
http://www.xeria.co.uk/kolist/1/Pets+Care+Accidents - I am tring to find out what the postage is.

The only other option is to spend £85 on anti Ickypoo to get free delivery.

We really need her to stop before we replace the landing, stairs and dining room carpets that are ruined. We already replaced all the basement ones with wood.

[lucy]

I am close to a "me or her" situation - it is hard as I do love her.

Oh Mark 

[Mark]

We do but it is so frustrating. All we can do is keep trying to remove the smell. I will not allow any visitors as I am sure people must smell it, despite constant cleaning and simple solution. I am close to a "me or her" situation - it is hard as I do love her.

[Liz]

Mark hate to say most folks would have given up after the first £500 worth of damage

So I would say that Willow and her issues are home to stay

We are currently having slight boy issues with the Blue situation but clean it up and move on we love them come what may and I think thats your case with Willow!

[Mark]

I think its the 3rd option - multi cat behaviourial issue.

I didn't notice a third option mentioned    I think it's down to the smell Mark, I have the odd ones that like peeing on particular things like carrier bags, bin bags etc, on a few occasions they peed on the shopping before I've even had chance to get it out of the bag 

Could the urine have seeped into the wood floor and so she can smell it even when the rug is perfectly clean? Might be worth leaving the rug up for a trial period and seeing if she still marks that area or not.

It's expensive but "Anti Icky Poo" spray is fantastic (it even gets rid of the smell of dead human bodies  ) http://www.crystalclearpet.com/shop/aip/aip_buy.htm

I would try TS's suggestion, might be worth a go    I hope you manage to get it sorted, and if you do, let me know the solution 

Right - I am close to ordering this - I was going to order a spray and a large bottle but they double the postage. I was looking to see what else they sell but there is much. It says free postage if you spend £85 so I will discuss with OH. I have suggested rehoming Willow as a desperate measure but OH will not do it.

[Millys Mum]

I think its the 3rd option - multi cat behaviourial issue.

I didn't notice a third option mentioned   

It gets written off dawn, she isnt a bad cat but obviously has issues because the estimation of 10k of damage is immense   

Peeing on ipods and blackberrys isnt a scent thing, unless clapton often uses it whilst sunbathing.

[Dawn (DiddyDawn)]

I think its the 3rd option - multi cat behaviourial issue.

I didn't notice a third option mentioned    I think it's down to the smell Mark, I have the odd ones that like peeing on particular things like carrier bags, bin bags etc, on a few occasions they peed on the shopping before I've even had chance to get it out of the bag 

Could the urine have seeped into the wood floor and so she can smell it even when the rug is perfectly clean? Might be worth leaving the rug up for a trial period and seeing if she still marks that area or not.

It's expensive but "Anti Icky Poo" spray is fantastic (it even gets rid of the smell of dead human bodies  ) http://www.crystalclearpet.com/shop/aip/aip_buy.htm

I would try TS's suggestion, might be worth a go    I hope you manage to get it sorted, and if you do, let me know the solution 

[Mark]

Have you noticed how they never ever pee or vomit on tiled or easily cleaned floors?!

Yes 

I hung the rug out in the garden and it has been rained on and as it dries, you can smell the pee - I really was fighting a losing battle with it. I can imagine someone rescuing it from the dump -  they will get a nice surprise when they get home 

Reminds me of when we were getting OH's old house ready to sell. I phoned the local charity shop which was Great Ormond street shop. They were really picky. They came round and refused a Sofa Workshop sofa that was 6 months old because it had a couple of claw marks, they refused the dishwasher saying they thought I told them it was a washing machine. There was a rolled up rug up against the wall - He said he would take it and I let him - It was really meant to go in the rubbish as it had paint, plaster dust and cat wee on it  - We thought it was hilarious and would loved to have seen their faces when they unrolled it - it served them right 

[swampmaxmum]

sounds like a rug protest then.  Maybe it's a mark of respect for your expensive rug  (sorry!). Have you noticed how they never ever pee or vomit on tiled or easily cleaned floors?!

[Mark]

Has she peed on the floorboarded area though since the rug's been banished?

No - so maybe the habit theory doesn't hold up - although she would have been used to something soft under her feet 

I am waiting to see if she pees on the door mat again - I'm not too worried about that as it's a Turtle mat so can just go in the washing machine.

[Kirst]

Beavis went theough a real stage of peeing on the sofa years ago - in the end we had to get rid of it  , and since we had the new (well it was then) one he has never done it again , or anywhere else. I think maybe once their scent gets into something they consider it fair game.

[swampmaxmum]

Max used to pee everywhere in our Cape Town house. Always thought it was a combo of the smell of the previous owner's dogs (despite carpet shampooing 3 times) and next door's dogs (which he couldn't even see but could hear). He started in one place, then it became a habit in several 'favourite places' and was clearly a stress release and attention seeking thing. We tried everything, even busparone tablets (human anti anxiety). Eventually we moved into a flat in France - and he's not peed since.
So I think it's stress (or jealousy), smell and habit all rolled into one. sorry, not much help! Sorry about the rug. Has she peed on the floorboarded area though since the rug's been banished?

[bunglycat]

Well Winston "marks" -just little drops but usually on the same place -near the hallway door and near the washing machine - and he always pees on plastic bags - have to lift up shopping  as soon as i get home -daren''t leave it else he will pee on the bag !
I have also seen him straddle and pee on a tree branch outside on the floor and sit and pee down drains and spray up drain pipes !!
Wonder what goes on in his head sometimes -the others don''t do anything like that !!!

[Millys Mum]

I think its the 3rd option - multi cat behaviourial issue.

[Topsy Turvey]

Goodness that is one expensive cat!

[Mark]

Ouch!  Is she in the dog (or should I say cat) house?

We have all but given up with her. OH estimates she has done over £10,000 of damage here and in the old house. expensive hand made drapes ruined, carpets ruined. Nothing is safe. She peed on my iPod recently and OHs Blackberry twice 

[Mark]

Could the urine have seeped into the wood floor and so she can smell it even when the rug is perfectly clean? Might be worth leaving the rug up for a trial period and seeing if she still marks that area or not.

It's expensive but "Anti Icky Poo" spray is fantastic (it even gets rid of the smell of dead human bodies  ) http://www.crystalclearpet.com/shop/aip/aip_buy.htm

It's Amtico which is a kind of vinyl so nothing can penetrate it - I am beginning to wonder if it's the natural smell of the rug. She always pees on hessiaan and other natural things. We had a metal frame with wicker type drawers and she peed on that. She is a mare.

[Topsy Turvey]

Ouch!  Is she in the dog (or should I say cat) house?

[Mark]

I will never understand how their furry brains work 

I wish it was the mat but it cost £250 

[Topsy Turvey]

Mark - Smartie did the same with the mat at the back door.  Cleaned it numerous times but in the end had to put it outside.  Got a new one and she hasn't done it to that.  Then again, she hasn't done it to the old one now its outside either!!!  Hey ho!  Life with kitties x 

[Team Svartalfheims]

Could the urine have seeped into the wood floor and so she can smell it even when the rug is perfectly clean? Might be worth leaving the rug up for a trial period and seeing if she still marks that area or not.

It's expensive but "Anti Icky Poo" spray is fantastic (it even gets rid of the smell of dead human bodies  ) http://www.crystalclearpet.com/shop/aip/aip_buy.htm

[Mark]

Ever since we moved here, willow has been marking the hallway rug. I must have got through dozens of bottles of simple. A while ago, I even ptook it up and soakd the offending area and left it outside for 5 days to be sure it was 100% dry - we are back to square one. I have given up and thrown it in the garden. Annoying as it is a quite expensive one - about 10ft x 3ft. When we bought it, it wasn't really for sale. it was the shop's own rug but he said we could buy it and he would put something else down. I wonder if there was something on it that Willow didn't lie, bearing in mind how many people must have walked on it  - anyway, I can't keep doing it and you can smell stale pee when you walk in the door. I said I will get another but Dennis think she will mark that as well as it's habit. I'm not sure what to do. The hallway is amtico (dark oak with brass strips)  and seems bare and echoey without a rug.