Horrible sad neglect case. Persians involved too

[Millys Mum]

Thats not very fair, persian neglect isnt any worse than moggie neglect, all the same thing for me 

Sorry but imo a cat who's coat is in such a terrible state that it can't use a litter tray without ripping huge clumps of fur out and red raw patches where this has happened is worse than a shorthair.

Please don't mistake me for someone who only cares about the cats she finds prettiest. I am heartbroken at the neglect these poor babes have suffered and no cat deserves to be treated that way.

I think I understand what Corporal Smokey means.  Like most people I find any kind of animal neglect incomprehensible but sometimes it's from utter ignorance rather than willful, wanton cruelty but in the case of Persians and pedigree cats I find it especially hard to understand.  Those beautiful babies don't just fall from the sky, someone has gone out their way to spend an awful lot of money on them and then let them get in a terrible state like that.  And not just one lovely babe, but four.  It's mental

The wording implies its worse just because they are persians.
Moggies come with long hair too and shorthairs also suffer with horrendous matting. I feel no more horrified when i see a pedigree thats been neglected then when i see a moggie, it doesnt cross my mind i should feel more for them because somebody had a fad and paid over the odds to fulfill their urges.

[MrsR]

Awwwww and they are so beautiful, its so sad it really is, I hope they find a wonderful home.

[JadesMum]

OMG - this is awful 
Morris is sooo cute - he looks so sad tho.
I really hope they find caring homes soon and then they can experience a loving and safe environment.
Good luck little ones 
   Lots of head rubs and tummy tickles to you all.

[Corporal Smokey]

Neglect is neglect regardless of animal or type. It breaks my heart to think of the state the dogs at the house were in as they had to be siezed. I was just particularly mortified that the long coats involved meant the persians were suffering from other nasties.

Well they're safe now and hopefully it won't be too long before they find a home. OH is talking about Malcolm a lot but I think he feels guilty for falling for him! Bless

[JackSpratt]

That's how I read it too, Julie. But realised that's probably not how it's meant - I think it just befuddles people that someone will go out of their way to get a breed, spend lots of money on it and then not care for it properly.

Hope these guys are all OK.

[Linda D]

I think I understand what Corporal Smokey means.  Like most people I find any kind of animal neglect incomprehensible but sometimes it's from utter ignorance rather than willful, wanton cruelty but in the case of Persians and pedigree cats I find it especially hard to understand.  Those beautiful babies don't just fall from the sky, someone has gone out their way to spend an awful lot of money on them and then let them get in a terrible state like that.  And not just one lovely babe, but four.  It's mental

[Reynard]

Yes, I'd say this guy is either a blue or lilac bi-colourpoint. This coat pattern is also found in orientals, where it is sometimes known as Seychellois. I've come across them at shows and it is a striking look.

I think the neglect of any cat is abhorrent, irrespective of breed / type / coat length. It just makes me so cross.

[Pinkbear (Julie)]

I have to say I once saw an Animal Hospital type programme where they had to shave a persian which had been straying for months, and the hot summer was nearly the end of the poor mite. While shaving puss's matted fur away, the vet hit a pocket of maggots that was starting to eat through into the rectum. 

I don't think persian neglect is any more sad than a short hair neglect, but persians are vulnerable to a specifically horrid fate if they stray and probably can't cope for as long if left to fend for itself as a short hair might. 

[Gillian Harvey]

Gillian what was benji doing with the cotton pads?! 

He was having his little eyes cleaned (much to his disgust LOL!) 

[Corporal Smokey]

Thats not very fair, persian neglect isnt any worse than moggie neglect, all the same thing for me 

Sorry but imo a cat who's coat is in such a terrible state that it can't use a litter tray without ripping huge clumps of fur out and red raw patches where this has happened is worse than a shorthair.

Please don't mistake me for someone who only cares about the cats she finds prettiest. I am heartbroken at the neglect these poor babes have suffered and no cat deserves to be treated that way.

[Millys Mum]

The conditions in which these animals were kept was said to be heartbreaking. And, to make matters worse, there are persians involved.

Thats not very fair, persian neglect isnt any worse than moggie neglect, all the same thing for me 

Gillian what was benji doing with the cotton pads?! 

[Corporal Smokey]

Thanks again Gillian. Yep, that BSH is the fella. Malcolm is just like that colourwise except he's blue. So he's suuuper special then!

Don't mean this to sound horrible 'cos she's gorgeous but Tilly is very weird looking. Her head is about half to 2/3rds the size of Malcolm's and I say his was about normal. She's small but not a really tiny cat though. Think some very suspect breeding has happened!

[Gillian Harvey]

A ha! Thanks detective Gillian, thought I was going crazy there. I knew there was something but couldn't put my finger on it!

His blue eyes are amazing, that picture doesn't quite do them justice. They're not a piercing blue like you get with some peds (I've never seen a blue-eyed persian though)

What about Tilly's small head? Could that be an interbreeding thing? She has a terribly high nose, although that doesn't seem to bother her.

All colourpoint persians have blue eyes  like my Benji here, but the depth of blue varies from cat to cat - and age, they will sometimes lighthen with age.



I've seen bi-colour colourpoint/colourpoint with white British shorthairs - think they are relatively new and I've seen the same in Persians in the US, but don't think they are a recognised colour in the UK yet. Here's a bicolour colourpoint British (cho.c.olate bi/cp) http://www.dixylanbritish.com/Kunzel%20004.JPG

Difficult to tell about Tilly's head with her 'halo' on LOL! But I think its the fact that she's got really big ears (for a persian) is making her face look small, she has got a high nose hasnt she?

[Corporal Smokey]

A ha! Thanks detective Gillian, thought I was going crazy there. I knew there was something but couldn't put my finger on it!

I didn't see him pre-lion but he has more blue on him and slighly more I think than a normal colourpoint. His back looks blue and his tail. His feet are cream though I think.

His blue eyes are amazing, that picture doesn't quite do them justice. They're not a piercing blue like you get with some peds (I've never seen a blue-eyed persian though) they're like a washed out, crystal clear, light blue. He has such emotive eyes. Had he been the only one I'd have taken him home then and there.

What about Tilly's small head? Could that be an interbreeding thing? She has a terribly high nose, although that doesn't seem to bother her.

[Gillian Harvey]

One more thing, Malcolm is a really special colour but I can't remember the name of it. It's the ragdoll-style one. He's blue and creamy white (although it's hard to tell with the filthiness and lack of hair). In fact Tilly's quite unusual too and she has a really strange (for a persian) small head.

Edited to say: maybe Malcolm's just blue and white bi-colour looking at that pick again but I was convinced there was a name for the way the white is just around his mouth. I'm confuddled!

Now Malcom is unusual! - he does indeed look like a blue and white bicolour, BUT, take a look at his eyes, they are blue! Only Colourpoint persians have blue eyes, but he's not got the usual facial 'mask' of a colourpoint. He must have the colourpoint gene in there somewhere - theres been some odd interbreeding methinks! In other some other breeds this is called 'colourpoint with white' - but not in persians (usually!) Did you see what the rest of his coat was colour wise before he was shaved?

Poor little souls, but they are in good hands now - Morris is a gorgeous colour 

[Desley (booktigger)]

Aww, the poor babies, fingers crossed for them.

[bunglycat]

They are all gorgeous cats -these people are really 
I hope they are being prosecuted !
I love little Tilly    :Luv2:and Malcolm looks so sad .
I would have loved to have homed them all - but i am sure my lot aren''t going to be impressed when Phoebe comes on Tuesday -let alone another 4 !
I really hope they soon get a forever home and loved and spoilt as they should have been .

[pappilon]

Oh Morris and Malcolm look so sad, they are all so beautifull. I hope they find their forever home soon.

[JackSpratt]

  Morris. I love the grumpy expression on Tillys face.

Hope the little ones get the wonderful homes they deserve - hopefully together.

[Corporal Smokey]

Will they need to be rehomed together?

In an ideal world I'd like that to happen but we have to be realistic and there aren't many who'll take four on in one go. I hope they can go in two lots of two at least.

[Linda D]

Such pretty cats.  Dear Morris is a little stunner and Tilly looks deeply unimpressed.  Will they need to be rehomed together?

[Kittybabe (Ruth)]

Oh CP... these poor poor babies.

How can anyone be so cruel to any creature is beyond me.

Glad that they're in your care now.

[Corporal Smokey]

I don't know the ins and outs so I'll be careful about what I put here but we've just taken in four cats (with two more to come) from the same home. The call came from the dog warden who had siezed a number of dogs from the house. The conditions in which these animals were kept was said to be heartbreaking. And, to make matters worse, there are persians involved. There are two persians and two semi-longhaired moggies (it wouldn't surpirse me if they were persian x moggies...).

The persian boy, Malcolm had to be shaved but the girl, Tilly has kept her fur apart from the bit where she's been spayed. Their ears were gross and they were crawling with all sorts.

This case has really got to me. I went in yesterday and Malcolm was so trusting and pleased to get some fuss. He was licking his shaved fur excitedly and purring like a crazy cat! Tilly was a little more cautious. She was enjoying a stroke but not getting carried away. Morris was nervous but seemed to show some sort of relief to be safe and Mitch just hid from me.

I want these cats to go to really special homes where they can have security and love for years to come. I would've nagged oh but at a push he'd only let me have one and then I wouldn't be able to pick!

One more thing, Malcolm is a really special colour but I can't remember the name of it. It's the ragdoll-style one. He's blue and creamy white (although it's hard to tell with the filthiness and lack of hair). In fact Tilly's quite unusual too and she has a really strange (for a persian) small head.

Edited to say: maybe Malcolm's just blue and white bi-colour looking at that pick again but I was convinced there was a name for the way the white is just around his mouth. I'm confuddled!

Here they are:

Mitch


Morris


Tilly


Malcolm