Topic: Madeleine - Siamese cat missing in Chatham area (Read 81167 times)

Mark · « **Reply #132 on:** May 15, 2008, 14:08:34 PM »

Thanks Julie,

That will be handy as it will save me from a shopping trip

Pinkbear (Julie) · « **Reply #131 on:** May 15, 2008, 13:35:22 PM »

As it happens, Mark, I'll be less than 2 mins away this afternoon so I can save you the trip. I'll call you later anyway.

I think the only hope left is for a stake out, and actually watch to traps, so we need a nice but slightly overcast evening and I will go do some secret squirrel stuff.

Mark · « **Reply #130 on:** May 15, 2008, 13:12:33 PM »

The lady called this morning and said the council are now clearing the house out and thinks it's best we collect the traps. The house will be worked on until someone else moves in - she has been very helpful. She said she has managed to catch 2 hedgies so far but no cat

. She said the man 2 doors away said he is feeding the cat. She has asked him not to as she said the cat won't go in a trap for food as long as he is feeding it. He refuses to stop. A couple of weeks ago, Julie asked him if we can put a trap in his garden but he refused, saying other cats feed in his garden and he doesn't want them getting caught in it

Anyway, he has told the neighbour that "maybe the new tenants will take the other cat in"

We are at a dead end. I am collecting the traps tomorrow - unless there are any other ideas but this man 2 doors away is making it impossible for us.

The cat was sighted a few days ago but the neighbour said there is a possibility it was in a piece of furniture that was taken away

Mark · « **Reply #129 on:** May 08, 2008, 19:24:22 PM »

I'm sure she is still being spotted outside - I haven't heard anything for a while a neighbours were out when I took food yesterday. It doesn't help that none of us are that close - Me 8 Miles, Sharon a bit more and Julie 20 miles or so. Margaret is handling it now and ready to run if there is any news. We don't have any hands on people in Canterbury itself even though that is the main part we cover

Millys Mum · « **Reply #128 on:** May 08, 2008, 11:15:46 AM »

Have you tried posters and door knocking to see if theres another old person up the road who is their 2nd home...

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #127 on:** May 07, 2008, 23:59:53 PM »

Yes that would be great

Mark · « **Reply #126 on:** May 07, 2008, 23:52:57 PM »

I suppose it's possible she has found a new mum - if we knew she was safe and well cared for, that would be fine

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #125 on:** May 07, 2008, 22:58:08 PM »

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, sounds like she must be getting fed somewhere.

Mark · « **Reply #124 on:** May 07, 2008, 22:57:06 PM »

It has. There are also 2 traps outside (front & back) - I think they are just trying to cover all angles.

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #123 on:** May 07, 2008, 22:48:26 PM »

I thought the cat had been seen outside?

Mark · « **Reply #122 on:** May 07, 2008, 22:42:44 PM »

No - I dropped some more food off there today. Margaret, our coordinator is speaking to the council. Sharon said the council have bought a trap and put it in the house and were going at 5pm to check. Sharon & I think the council are being very good still trying after 2 weeks.

Sam (Fussy_Furball) · « **Reply #121 on:** May 07, 2008, 11:54:08 AM »

Has this little madame been aught yet?

koscha (Ruth M) · « **Reply #120 on:** May 03, 2008, 20:06:49 PM »

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh....fingers and everything else crossed x x x
At least she's still in the area so there's still hope.

Pinkbear (Julie) · « **Reply #119 on:** May 03, 2008, 12:01:28 PM »

Sneakie is the polite way of putting it.

If I ever get my hands on her I'll give her a firm lecture - not that she'll listen to me!

Sam (Fussy_Furball) · « **Reply #118 on:** May 03, 2008, 11:26:37 AM »

ooooh she's a sneakie one isn't she ... good luck with catching her this weekend.

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #117 on:** May 03, 2008, 10:14:21 AM »

Aww, good luck with her

Janeyk · « **Reply #116 on:** May 03, 2008, 07:11:33 AM »

Quote from: Pinkbear on May 03, 2008, 00:31:56 AM

Some good news! Puss has been sighted sitting on a wall near to the house this evening.

Positive trapping vibes for the weekend, please.

that's good news, keeping my fingers crossed for her

Pinkbear (Julie) · « **Reply #115 on:** May 03, 2008, 06:30:48 AM »

Yes, they've opened up all doors and the cat flap at our request. I figure all the time she can still get into her old home, she'll stay in the area.

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #114 on:** May 03, 2008, 03:10:08 AM »

Thats great so she is outside .............sigh

Question is can she get inside?

Pinkbear (Julie) · « **Reply #113 on:** May 03, 2008, 00:31:56 AM »

Some good news! Puss has been sighted sitting on a wall near to the house this evening.

Positive trapping vibes for the weekend, please.

Michelle (furbabystar) · « **Reply #112 on:** May 02, 2008, 20:28:21 PM »

Cant believe that about the vet Mark, what a

Mark · « **Reply #111 on:** May 02, 2008, 15:42:00 PM »

I think the council are trying to help - they came again this morning so that makes it about the 5th visit. I supose you can call that reasonable. Strictly speaking, the tenancy has ended with death to put it bluntly. The council want to get the place ready for the next tenant on their waiting list.

Anyway, I missed a call this morning when I was hoovering

When I called back, Margaret, our coordinator had phoned. When I called her back, she said the problem had been sorted. The lady from the council had decided to set one of the traps in the house this morning and plans on going back at 5pm to check. She wasn't sure how to set it so went to the vet just around the corner from the house. The vet said she will show them for £10

- In the end, Sharon explained how to do it over the phone.

This is the same vet that a couple of months ago, when a woman wanted us to take a "stray" in with a bad eye but had no transport, allowed her to drop it off. She (the vet) then offered to do a Chlamydia test for £100 which we declined as I was taking the cat to our regular vet later that day. When I collected him, she was really sarcastic about it. Our regular vet put him on antibiotics and it was clear in a couple of days.

I said to Sharon, the vet is a fool to herself as this could become a nice story for the local paper and the vet could have got some good publicity from it but she is just a moneygrabber

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It is obvious that a civil servant wouldn't be able to pay £10 without it going to a commitee and half a dozen triplicate forms filled in first.

Dawn F · « **Reply #110 on:** May 02, 2008, 15:34:49 PM »

fingers crossed she turns up

blackcat · « **Reply #109 on:** May 02, 2008, 08:33:10 AM »

found it:

http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php/topic,13631.0.html

blackcat · « **Reply #108 on:** May 02, 2008, 08:28:57 AM »

There is a thread somewhere else about legislation that requires authorities to attend to the needs of the animals of people who are renting from them or something along those lines, perhaps you could invoke that one ...

Mark · « **Reply #107 on:** May 02, 2008, 08:25:14 AM »

There won't be a Cellar - they are small 1950's local authority bungalows - I guess it's possible there is a loft but accessed though a hatch.

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #106 on:** May 02, 2008, 08:01:47 AM »

Just a thought - there isn't something like a cellar that she could have got into and unable to get back out of is there? Or access to an attic? Or loose floorboards? IT is so much harder when you dont know the house or which room she could be in - I much prefer to 'lose' my cats when I know there is only one room they can be in.

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #105 on:** May 01, 2008, 23:42:24 PM »

I agree with Sam that this cat is still in the house most likely and while people are there, food or no food , she isnt gonna come out.

She knows the house better than you and I bet she knows somewhere that you think a cat couldnt get into, She is so terrified by the loss of her owner and allthe strange goings on in the house she is staying firmly hidden probably until its dark.

Like Des and Sam I have searched mmy house high and low for Kocka and one time she had got under a cupboard that is barely 3 inches from the ground and I saw her by accident after beliving I had looked everywhere. I had closed off every door after I had searched the room and knew she was in the house cos had shut the flap and seen her inside.

I also know that Sasa has a hideaway that I cant find at the moment, and its driving me crazy where she is going and I know its in the house cos tonight she turned up the house side of me in the utility room and didnt come pass me from the kitchen and the cat flap. Cant think where she is hiding though!

Flipping council, I know they cant trust everyone but I would have thought to let you have the keys over the weekend as you are CP , shouldnt be too big a problem cos you are trying to help them.

Pinkbear (Julie) · « **Reply #104 on:** May 01, 2008, 22:42:24 PM »

Sam, you have to think in terms of it looking like a squat. The floor is covered in rubbish, broken glass, stinking tins of month-old opened beans. This poor man had totally disintegrated as a human being before he died. Yes, I had all cupboards and wardrobes open. I pulled all the bedclothes off the bed. Looked underneath the sofa cusions. Absolutely everywhere I could think a cat might hide and absolutely everywhere you could fit a cat into.

After that, we set a trap with fresh food in the living room and left the house in silence for 4 hours. We asked the council lady to return and let us back in later that day and the trap was untouched.

I am totally stumped! Somehow puss has to be in the house because no one has seen it for over 24 hours, and ever since the man died it has been seen everyday by neighbours. And I know none of you believe it because I don't believe it myself. This cat has got a Tardis!

Canterbury_cats (Sharon) · « **Reply #103 on:** May 01, 2008, 21:06:09 PM »

Thats what we think but Melissa isnt at all like that.. Perhaps she is just older and wiser. The trouble is we cannot get access to the house without the council being around and they are not willing for us to be their on our own for long.. i.e they just cannot give us the key and let us get on with it.. They also want to clean the house out for next tennants asap.. !

Sam (Fussy_Furball) · « **Reply #102 on:** May 01, 2008, 21:00:23 PM »

She might be a scared puss but she isn't a foolish one .... I would suggest going into the house and quietly try calling her - just as if you were calling to your own kitties at home - then open a can of something really tasty (sardines in tomato sauce) and sit and wait. If she thinks the coast is clear there is a good chance she will come out of hiding ... of course it all depends on how long you can afford to hang around.

If this kitty is used to living with an old man who quite obviously didn't have alot of visitors or strangers in the house she will be one very nervy cat if there are lots of people in HER home . I speak from experience my furbabes are happy contented furries when it's just me in the house but if I have a friend round they are all very suspicious and sculk off upstairs the minute they knock on the door.

Keeping everything crossed for you and her.

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #101 on:** May 01, 2008, 20:45:19 PM »

Aww, I do hope things work out well for her.

Canterbury_cats (Sharon) · « **Reply #100 on:** May 01, 2008, 20:43:13 PM »

Update.. Julie is on site now.. No one has seen the cat outside for the last day.. Which brings us to suspecting she is inside.. The cat flap has been opened but the door to the kitchen to the cat flap has been closed.. Hence cat cannot get out.. Puss therefore has no access to food or water (although there may be a bathroom sink for water maybe).. We are very worried. Council dont consider it an emergency so want come out. We are ringing them in the morning to demand they go out and open the doors. We then have to see if we can trap her outside, although her condition would of got worse by then i suspect. Julie is an expert at these things and she is worried as well now..I called the council this afternoon and they promised they were going out to see the house..

We have one scared puss cat on our hands now!

blackcat · « **Reply #99 on:** May 01, 2008, 20:41:44 PM »

sofie used to specialise in hiding in the kitchen cupboards, fail to respond to calls and stay still when the doors opened so I did not spot her. Frequently only found her after she had shattered her latest pile of crockery trying to be stealthy!

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #98 on:** May 01, 2008, 20:33:52 PM »

Good point Sam - the amount of times I have 'lost' cats in the house is unbelievable - happened twice this week actually. Has anyone checked inside wardrobes, I have had cats get in there and the door has shut so they have been stuck in there, sometimes hiding in things in the wardrobe just to make themselves harder to find - and despite knowing me, they never let on where they are.

Sam (Fussy_Furball) · « **Reply #97 on:** May 01, 2008, 20:25:10 PM »

Fingers crossed you trap her soon. Mind you if she is anything like Rossi she will be able to hide in the house and no amount of lifting and shifting will bring her out of hiding. I remember spending over two hours one night looking for her in my 6 small room house ... I turned the place upside down and I don't have much clutter and all the time the little B :censored:h was hiding in the airing cupboard on the top shelf right next to the tank just watching me

and she knew me ... if I had been a stranger she would NEVER have let me see her.

Canterbury_cats (Sharon) · « **Reply #96 on:** May 01, 2008, 19:11:55 PM »

I got through to the council and asked the to unlock the flap and allow access. As it was getting silly and no way we can trap a cat in the house, we will keep on trying to catch it outside.. However, the weekend is nearly upon us so i doubt much will happen as people will be out and about.. I didnt manage to speak to Mrs James to see if she had seen puss cat.

In the meantime i am now thinking of giving Melissa a go with my two.. All reports from neighbours seem to say that these two were not particularly together alot.. The longer we "hang" on poor Melissa is getting lonely in her pen...

So a dilemna.. See if i can introduce Melissa to my two (or foster her for the time being)
Or wait until we find the other one and see the reaction when they are together again?

Thoughts pls

Pinkbear (Julie) · « **Reply #95 on:** May 01, 2008, 19:01:03 PM »

The council lady called me twice today while I was driving the bus. Of course, I couldn't respond but asked Sharon to call them while I was on break.

The lady that got scratched seems to be getting obsessed and is convinced puss is still in the house, but I searched it twice and never heard so much as a rustle. It was really grotty in there too. A bit like a Life of Grime house.

Thank goodness I remembered to put some gauntlets on - they went straight in the wash!

I figured they wouldn't tell if I'd moved anything so I had a good root around and I even shifted the wardrobe and sofas out. The only thing I couldn't shift properly was the bed because it was wedged, but I did lift it up and had a good look. There's no way a live puss wouldn't have moved swith all that racket going on...

Mark · « **Reply #94 on:** May 01, 2008, 18:12:42 PM »

The woman from the council told Sharon that she still thinks the cat is in the house. Julie searched the house from top to bottom yesterday
(well it's a bungalow

) and there is no sign. Sharon has asked them to unseal the catflap "just to be sure"

We don't know what to do as we can't keep driving 8 miles for nothing. The neighbours are checking the traps.

Janeyk · « **Reply #93 on:** April 30, 2008, 19:39:17 PM »

I'll be wishing you the very best of luck in catching this kitty

Author Topic: Madeleine - Siamese cat missing in Chatham area (Read 81167 times)