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Re: de matting
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2008, 22:40:39 PM »
 :thanks: Amy.....I want them for the dog also though so I think the clipper's will be okay....Giz is a big cat!  ;D

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Re: de matting
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2008, 09:59:09 AM »
Oooh, that is a bargain! Not sure if the main clipper looks a bit big for cats though. These are the ones I use:

http://www.chapelhouse-persians.co.uk/battery%20powered%20clippers.htm

Great product, helps a great rescue and you get a free replacement if you wear them out!

All you do is fuss/gently groom/cuddle your cat as normal whilst having them whirring near by until they associate the noise with happy times and then blast out those mats  ;D
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Re: de matting
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2008, 19:07:49 PM »
Hi peeps....Just wondering does anyone know if these clipper's are good one's? The price is fab if they are!  ;D

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Re: de matting
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2008, 18:57:17 PM »
Yep, they're the ones!

I think I'll avoid trimming unless he seems uncomfortable. Thanks again for the advice!
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Re: de matting
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2008, 17:45:21 PM »
I was thinking about getting him clipped to perhaps normal cat length.

For some reason, I think Smokey really likes my clippers.

If you've got one of those little battery trimmers you could do the coat shorter all over with that - if I remember rightly you got the little blue battery trimmer which comes with two attachment combs didnt you? If you use one of the attachment combs you can do the shorter cut all over if you wanted.


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Re: de matting
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2008, 10:02:36 AM »
Don't worry Gillian, Smokey's not having a number 1 all over  :evillaugh: !

I was thinking about getting him clipped to perhaps normal cat length. The reason for this was I was sat chatting to someone at the vet's when we first had Smokey. She had a wonderful full-coated blue-point persian and obviously took great care of him. I asked about his coat and she said they had him dematted every summer as persians don't like to be too hot. I thought all cats love the warm but the fact that this cat was soooo beautiful made me think the lady knew best so I've wondered ever since.

I'd actually hate to mess with his coat now, it's so big and woolly so I'm glad you've erred on the "no" side.

For some reason, I think Smokey really likes my clippers. I gave him a beard trim yesterday to stop him eating his fur every time he washes and just zipped through all the little bobbles on his armpits. He purred and purred and seemed a little disappointed when I put the clippers away!
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Re: de matting
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2008, 00:52:43 AM »
Well all my persians seem to love the heat - Smartie as in pic -likes to lie in the sink drainer if he gets warm ! but in the garden lies on his back with his legs in the air ! The others like t too -but they have cool little houses to get in as well ( i just take the fleece out they have in in winter. also when the sun goes down they lie on the patio.
I have 2 ceiling fans inside -living room and bedroom.
I also bought an air conditioner unit a year and half ago -but never used it as it didn''t seem so hot last year.
They will enjoy that in the bedroom if we have a hot summer.

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Re: de matting
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2008, 22:55:26 PM »
Since we're on de-matting, I was thinking about this and summer recently (if we have a summer this year...). Even if the house is pretty cold, Smokey sometimes seems to find the coldest corner there is or sprawl out on the vinyl kitchen floor. In summer, he's really going to be toasty.

Do you think it's cruel or kinder to get an all over trim to help keep the heat at bay?

I think persians cope well with the heat even with their big coats, as you say, they find their own ways of keeping cool. Suzie used to lie flat on her tummy with her back legs spread out behind her on the vinyl floor LOL! and they can find nice cool places outside in the shade. When you say trim - you don't mean the 'Sphynx' look do you?  :evillaugh:

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Re: de matting
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2008, 18:39:01 PM »
Since we're on de-matting, I was thinking about this and summer recently (if we have a summer this year...). Even if the house is pretty cold, Smokey sometimes seems to find the coldest corner there is or sprawl out on the vinyl kitchen floor. In summer, he's really going to be toasty.

Do you think it's cruel or kinder to get an all over trim to help keep the heat at bay?
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Re: de matting
« Reply #23 on: February 29, 2008, 20:13:05 PM »
great result  ;D

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Re: de matting
« Reply #22 on: February 29, 2008, 17:33:58 PM »
Thanks Gillian, that certainly reassures me  ;D

Update - just back from the groomer and she was excellent! She asked if I would like to stay and watch so I did and have picked up so many grooming tips... I would gladly have paid just for the advice even she if hadn't groomed the cat! Willow has had her belly shaved, a thorough combing plus a general trim and tidy up. Svetlana talked to her constantly to reassure her and the cat was very well behaved. I am absolutely amazed at the amount of fur combed out of her, she's about half the size she was yesterday  :rofl: Worth every penny and I will definitely be going back in a couple of months.

Excellent news! Really pleased it went well - I always have owners stay with their cats too (if they want to of course LOL!)

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Re: de matting
« Reply #21 on: February 29, 2008, 03:06:19 AM »
Thanks Gillian, that certainly reassures me  ;D

Update - just back from the groomer and she was excellent! She asked if I would like to stay and watch so I did and have picked up so many grooming tips... I would gladly have paid just for the advice even she if hadn't groomed the cat! Willow has had her belly shaved, a thorough combing plus a general trim and tidy up. Svetlana talked to her constantly to reassure her and the cat was very well behaved. I am absolutely amazed at the amount of fur combed out of her, she's about half the size she was yesterday  :rofl: Worth every penny and I will definitely be going back in a couple of months.
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Re: de matting
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2008, 23:34:30 PM »
I have the bellly & armpit problem with my persian, it's not terribly knotted but she really doesn't like me trying to brush her there.

Ithis lady in Ilford http://www.cat-grooming.co.uk/index.html, her picture gallery of before and after shots is very impressive and it's only a 45 min drive so I thought I'd give her a go, but if anyone can recommend someone in central/north London for future use that would be great.  :thanks:

I know of this lady, we've spoken on the phone before (some years ago now) and she sounded very caring and certainly from a groomer's perspective the examples on her site speak for themselves. She will I'm sure, be able to either comb or shave those areas and groom the rest of the coat through to get rid of the undercoat, so that the coat is easier to manage.

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Re: de matting
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2008, 22:39:03 PM »
Kocka in her later years used to get matted but I wasnt charged anything at vets, well maybe just a normal consultaion fee.

They didnt have to sedate her cos for them she would just sit there..............sigh

I could have got them off if she would have let me.

They seemed to appear from nowhere but they had to grow a bit away from the skin before they could be attacked.

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Re: de matting
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2008, 21:11:23 PM »
When I had Peony done, I was quoted £38 for her, and for Shah who is in tomorrow at the other surgery I use, I've been quoted roughly £20 odd but I have an awful feeling it's going to be a lot more because of his size  :Crazy:

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Re: de matting
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2008, 20:04:54 PM »
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they also made a point of saying they are not a groomer and will only remove the mats so don't expect her to look pretty

Well said imo & too true  :evillaugh:

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Re: de matting
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2008, 19:35:15 PM »
I have the bellly & armpit problem with my persian, it's not terribly knotted but she really doesn't like me trying to brush her there. I rang the vet who quoted anything from £70 to  :Crazy: £200 depending on how long it takes, they also made a point of saying they are not a groomer and will only remove the mats so don't expect her to look pretty! After a week of agonising over it she is booked into a groomers tomorrow for a belly shave and general groom but I am concerned as to whether I've made the right choice and sedation at the vet may have been better.

I tried to look for reviews of local groomers on the internet but couldn't find a single one. The only one people seemed to be recommending was this lady in Ilford http://www.cat-grooming.co.uk/index.html, her picture gallery of before and after shots is very impressive and it's only a 45 min drive so I thought I'd give her a go, but if anyone can recommend someone in central/north London for future use that would be great.  :thanks:

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Re: de matting
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2008, 17:48:26 PM »
I've found a couple of local groomers who will collect and drop off - I guess if she does it regularly it won't get to that stage

Yes, thats what I try and tell my customers! They nod and say, yes I'm not going to let him/her get into this state again..........hmmmm!

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Re: de matting
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2008, 15:37:35 PM »
My vet (Newark) would charge about £80 ish i would think .
Have only had one done and that was Winston -he was just full everywhere , no vaccinations since  a kitten either.
I took him and had him blood tested, vaccinated and shaved and it was around £140 but that was 6 years ago.
I then bought him a little dog coat to wear.

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Re: de matting
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2008, 15:04:17 PM »
I've found a couple of local groomers who will collect and drop off - I guess if she does it regularly it won't get to that stage - I'm tempted to take persian number two to my house and have it dematted and then try and rehome it from there

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Re: de matting
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2008, 15:00:39 PM »
No harm in your trying first dawn, the armpit areas were always a pig in some of the cotton wool type persians. (tiny little matts but hurt like hell if you tugged abit on them)

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Re: de matting
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2008, 13:42:24 PM »
its such a shame about persians, I've got them coming out of my ears at the moment!  this friend who can't groom the tummy area and another friend who wants to rehome because of grooming issues

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Re: de matting
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2008, 13:02:20 PM »
I was wondering if a groomer could do it myself, she says he doesn't like his stomach brushed and his armpits are matted as well, I just wasn't sure if not like being brushed by the owner made difference to a groomer as you probably have a way of doing it - I'll suggest she has a search, she lives in West London so there must be someone

Yeh, often cats are better with a groomer (not all mind you!) - its just that they know how to play their owners up LOL!

100% agree with that one! 

Foofoo is a madam with me wheras the groomers love her and say she is soooooo good!!  :shify:

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Re: de matting
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2008, 12:58:12 PM »
I was wondering if a groomer could do it myself, she says he doesn't like his stomach brushed and his armpits are matted as well, I just wasn't sure if not like being brushed by the owner made difference to a groomer as you probably have a way of doing it - I'll suggest she has a search, she lives in West London so there must be someone

Yeh, often cats are better with a groomer (not all mind you!) - its just that they know how to play their owners up LOL!

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Re: de matting
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2008, 12:56:06 PM »
I was wondering if a groomer could do it myself, she says he doesn't like his stomach brushed and his armpits are matted as well, I just wasn't sure if not like being brushed by the owner made difference to a groomer as you probably have a way of doing it - I'll suggest she has a search, she lives in West London so there must be someone

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Re: de matting
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2008, 12:46:37 PM »
As far as I know my vet charges around £80 (that would be with anaesthic/sedation), prob cheaper if they don't need to do the sedation. Dawn, are there any groomers near your friend? I don't know about prices where she is, but I charge £30 per session de-mat (If its really bad I might need more than one session - which doesnt work out much cheaper than vets - but doing one session one week and the other the next or even week after, kind of splits up the cost a bit - and no sedation.

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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2008, 12:38:46 PM »
that does seem high tbh.  There would be ga/sedation fee and dematt cost but over 100 quid seems abit of a rip off, ask gillian ambercat she may have a better idea.

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Re: de matting
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2008, 11:22:35 AM »
she's had a quote for 125, I just thought it was a bit high so wondered if anyone knew

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Re: de matting
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2008, 11:04:30 AM »
I would have thought if at the vets then anything from 25-55 quid, you'd have to phone up and ask if they have guideline prices i guess.

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Re: de matting
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2008, 10:55:51 AM »
its for a friend - she is saying the whole underneath and underarms so I suppose it would need sedating??

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Re: de matting
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2008, 10:45:50 AM »
depends on who's doing it, how extensive, if sedation is needed.

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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2008, 09:32:39 AM »
does anyone know how much this should cost??

 


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