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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2008, 08:46:07 AM »
Just catching up, glad the vet is happy with Josh and its not kidneys  ;D

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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2008, 08:19:06 AM »
Glad it's not the kidneys, such a relief for you

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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2008, 08:10:23 AM »
Glad the vet doesnt think it is likely to be his kidneys. i got my SEB from the vet, it is in a powder form, so can't help on where to get it from.
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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2008, 21:50:20 PM »
I'm glad the hooman has given you clean billofelf.  I don't know what that is either but it sounds good.  My hooman wants to know whether your hooman knows where to get this slippery elm stuff from cos last time she looked for it all she could find was some drink thing for hoomans.

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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2008, 21:33:34 PM »
The man in green said that it could be any number of things but not kidley failure. He said that that's one of the laterer symptoms and I'd be all skinny and scruffy before the sicky would start. He said I had a clean "billofelf" but I'm not too sure what one of them is. I'm 7.9kg and he said that's not likely to be the weight of a poorly cat (I think he thinks I'm a little too portly). He asked female hooman lots and lots of questions and prodded me all over.

Jaffa, you's funny. We should try some of those slippery elms they might help us.

And thanks Helen, I'm sure I have nothing to worry about. Apart from revenge...
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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2008, 21:16:21 PM »
Glad Josh is OK, got everything crossed his blood results are tip top too  :)

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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2008, 19:24:25 PM »
My humble apologies, Josh!  I hope you are having something extra tasty for your tea.  What you should have done is vomit on the table when you were being examined by the man in the green coat.  Then he would have had to clean it up and your meowmy would have been embarrassed.  Did the hooman in the green costume say anything about why you've been sick lately?

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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2008, 18:59:55 PM »
Well hoomans thanks a lot! I have to sit in that stinky cage in that stinky room for about 4 hours to be poked around and prodded by some other hooman who thinks meowmy's crazy. The hooman in the green costume says my weight is good and my health is perfect. He gave me some pointy thing in the neck, anti-inflammammatator or something and now I'm back home.

Terribly undignified process. Now, where's my tea?

Regards, Josh  :shify:
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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2008, 16:34:28 PM »
That's great, thanks for the heads up!

He only eats dry food but I've started to introduce wet over the last few weeks so it could be that.
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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2008, 16:05:43 PM »
Jaffa had a dental nearly 2 years ago (then age 8 ) and while everything went ok, the vet did say that his values for creatinine and urea were a bit on the high side and that he should be re-tested to see if they were still high.  She said that dehydration (he obviously had to fast before the dental and he's never been a great drinker) could have been a factor.  He had the blood tests repeated about a month later and the values had come down a bit (he still had to fast overnight but I made sure he got some fluid in him by giving him a small amt tuna water).  The vet (different one) said everything was fine, but his values were still very near the upper limit of normal.   He's had one blood test since then (which was about the same) but I'm obviously concerned that they don't go any higher into full blown CRF.   The vets don't seem concerned about them at all, but I'm well aware (from reading others' stories on here) that it can make a big difference to the progression of the disease if you can catch it early.  I'm determined to keep an eye on Jaffa's blood values so that I can see if they rise.  So far they are ok, but he is due for another blood test.  It's mainly me pushing for blood tests but the vets don't argue with me!  Jaffa had his vaccinations and health check about 3 months ago and the vet said he was in good shape but agreed with me that repeating the blood tests would be a good idea. 

He's seen a vet about the vomiting separately when it was a real problem (a different vet) but tbh I didnt' rate that vet and he didn't have much idea of why - he said it could take a long time to work out why and suggested I started by feeding him dry food.  Well I wasn't going to do that and I knew the vomiting wasn't down to what he was eating, as he's never sick after eating.  it's always on an empty stomach.  Over the past year or so he's been much better and the vomiting has been fairly rare.  The only thing I changed was to increase the amount of wet food in his diet (he went from mostly dry with some wet to half and half to predominanty wet then to all wet!) and altered the timing of his last meal of the day.  He now gets a pouch of wet food right before bedtime and that almost eliminated the early morning vomiting.  When it seemed to increase the other week I immediately panicked about it being related to his kidneys or something like that, but it soon became obvious he was just a bit off colour and for the past week he's been fine.  We never really got to the bottom of why he was vomiting, but it definitely got better when I adjusted his meal times and made sure he didn't go too long without food.  I really don't know what is causing the vomiting.  It might just be down to him getting older (he'll be 11 in June) and not being able to go too long without eating.  it's not that often these days, but he is only sick when he's been about 8 hrs + without a meal.

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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2008, 15:10:43 PM »
Sorry to bombard you but I'd like to be armed before I go this evening...

Is there any underlying cause in Jaffa's case or is it "just one of those things". I thought it might be to do with age. I'm sure he doesn't have a bug or he'd appear ill.

I don't want to get a load of tests done for nothing. I'm definately going to get his bloods done for CRF and if he's ok try him on slippery elm. I did just go to H & B but decided not to get any just yet and see what the vet says.
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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2008, 14:24:18 PM »
Sounds exactly the same.  Jaffa is never sick after eating.  He is either sick in the morning before breakfast (sometimes I kick myself for not getting up a few minutes earlier as I'm sure I could have averted it by feeding him a bit sooner!) or at tea time before he's fed.  Always on an empty stomach.  He's sick less often of a morning since I put his supper meal back back (he now has it last thing before bed - I try to wait until 11pm unless I'm off to bed early).  I think it's definitely to do with nausea and/or excess stomach acid and nothing to do with what he's eating.  His last blood tests were fine but he is due to be re-tested.  He was quite sick last week but after initially panicking, I do actually think he had a bit of a bug as he was poorly for a day or 2 but is fine now and hasn't been sick for several days.  I don't give him any meds but am going to try him on slippery elm.

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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2008, 13:54:51 PM »
That's exactly the same! Josh was sick just before tea time and about an hour before breakfast. I've followed all the tips (raising bowls, feeding before bedtime etc...) but it's the fact it COULD be a symptom. His bloods were done last June/July time so it's been a while.

Is Jaffa ok? Do you have to give him any meds or get him checked more often?

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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2008, 12:11:26 PM »
Good luck at the vets.  When did he last have blood tests?  Might be worthing having them done again.  If everything's ok it will set your mind at rest.

I tend to be paranoid about CRF too ever since Jaffa had high readings.  His have been ok since but he is top end of normal and he does have a tendency to be sick sometimes (before meals so just vomits up a bit of bile or clear, foamy liquid).

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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2008, 09:42:40 AM »
Thanks  :hug: he's giong tonight at 6pm. No more sick and he still seems fine so here's hopin'!
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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2008, 09:20:25 AM »
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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2008, 09:01:51 AM »
Sending positive vibes and good luck with the vets!  ;)

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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2008, 08:47:46 AM »
Hope it's good news at the vet's today

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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2008, 08:05:08 AM »
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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2008, 20:24:03 PM »
Best of luck hun, I'm sure its just his meowmy being over-protective, but always best to check  :hug:

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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2008, 19:57:32 PM »
I've had a look on the old faithful felinecrf.org and it says it's a sign of stomach acid. I presume that could be a number of things and slippery elm bark would help as well as improving his coat. I think I'll take him to the vets' rather than just calling though. His last MOT was July so it wouldn't hurt to get his bloods done.
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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2008, 19:36:28 PM »
I hope his meowmy is just being strange!

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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2008, 19:27:53 PM »
It is a gut feeling but it is still there and I can't shake it. His fur looks weird too. I can't really explain that one except you know how your cat's fur looks and his doesn't look right. British Shorthair fur is normally really deep and velvety but his has become not quite as velvety...or something as if he's getting old.

It could be an age thing but I'm definately going to ring the vets'.

Thanks and wish him luck that his meowmy is just being strange, I really don't want to go through it again  :hug:
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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2008, 18:59:47 PM »
I feel partly responsible for the CRF paranoia with all my post recently  :shy:

The only reason I checked Max was that I'd spotted him drinking more recently, and consequently bigger wees as well.  Other than that he has been absolutely fine, playing loads, eating loads, being himself ........ I just had a gut feeling.

I'm very much a person to go on gut instict, so if you're concerned about Josh, then it may be worth chatting with the vet to see if its worth doing some bloods, just to check.

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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2008, 10:17:17 AM »
I would have a chat with your vet and see if they think it is worth taking him.

Yeah I'll give them a ring tomorrow.

Lisa, CRF is Chronic Renal Failue. It's usually only spotted in cats when their kidneys are at 25% of their working power and sadly it's terminal. A few people on here have renal cats and they can do very well for quite a while on medication but the earlier you spot it the more chance you have of managing it. Hence my paranoia!
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Re: Weird Symptom...
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2008, 10:03:11 AM »
Whats CRF ?
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2008, 09:56:54 AM »
I would have a chat with your vet and see if they think it is worth taking him.
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Weird Symptom...
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2008, 09:25:30 AM »
Ok so I'm probably being really paranoid but with all this CRF talk I just wanted some advice on Josh.

Twice in the last week he has been sick. His sick is just water with a little foaminess (sorry...). There's not much of it but I know Hope used to get that so that's why I'm worried.

He is absolutely fine in himself but his wees look quite big too.

I don't want to take him to the vet's without checking on here first as he finds the whole experience very traumatic and that's a waste for a vet to tell me I'm paranoid!

He has no other symptoms. He is 13 and otherwise perfectly healthy.

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