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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2008, 13:58:15 PM »
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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2008, 07:09:54 AM »
he is as fit as a witch's cat  ;)

That figures  :evillaugh:
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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2008, 00:53:17 AM »
Surely we all want the worms to get better  :rofl:

My cats have had fleas and always been healthy at the time. Personaily if I know they have fleas I want rid of them asap, so I would  order some Frontline rather than waiting for the remedies to work.

When my cats have had fleas they have always needed treatment for them.

Infact all my cats are garden cats bar Harry, so if they have fleas I know they have come from Harry, and he is as fit as a witch's cat  ;)

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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2008, 10:48:47 AM »
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Normaly only a sick or underweight animals have really bad infestations and a healty animal can fight such things as fleas without it doing them damage.

I would agree that is absolutely not the case.
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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2008, 21:12:34 PM »
Yak i will stick to worming a fleaing i think ;D

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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2008, 21:10:31 PM »
Not to mention tapeworm from flea bites.  :scared:

Clapton got his infestation during an August heatwave - they must have  taken over in a couple of days.
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« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2008, 20:58:34 PM »
A cat doesnt have to be sick to get problems with parasites, they go on to get sick from being sucked alive. Have you ever seen fleas leaving a dead body? Its not something to be messed around with.


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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2008, 20:50:42 PM »


Every cat has a right to flea and worm treatment and to enjoy life without parasites.  ;)


I agree with you they do deserve it and mine do get treated regularly but what i am trying to say is that it is normaly a sick cat that suffers.  

Mark maybe the cat was under the weather before he got the infestation.

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« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2008, 20:48:48 PM »
"a healthy animal can fight such things as fleas without it doing them damage"

I don't think this is true at all.  A healthy animal without fleas can quickly become an unhealthy one once infested.  I wouldn't care to put it to the test on my cat or myself but you're welcome to test it on yourself if you're that confident

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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2008, 20:39:13 PM »
I'm sorry Tinamary but that's not the case, either. We pick up many cats, and including one or two who did actually have owners, but when the weather and conditions are right, sick or healthy they were crawling.  :sick: One case I recall was poor Carlos. I picked him up and help him for no more than 20 seconds while placing him in a basket, yet he left behind at least 100 fleas on my t-shirt. His owner claimed to be frantic with worry when he dissapeared but in fact Carlos had been handed in as a stray by a concerned member of the public - so poor was the state of his coat. The owner seemed proud to tell us Carlos hadn't needed flea or worm treatment for three years...  :tired:

Every cat has a right to flea and worm treatment and to enjoy life without parasites.  ;)

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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2008, 20:31:52 PM »
Although I agree they have a better chance. One of my cats got a flea infestation a couple of years ago and it made him really ill. He had a temperature and needed antibiotics. Also a healthy cat can have a flea allergy which isn't nice.
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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2008, 20:25:15 PM »


Many feral cats and kittens die because of parasites. Kittens in particular perish very fast as a heavy infestation of fleas will drink them dry in a couple of days after birth.  :( The weather is an important factor when it comes to parasites. Summer months always bring on a epidemic of fleas and worms because hotter conditions make them breed faster.


Normaly only a sick or underweight animals have really bad infestations and a healty animal can fight such things as fleas without it doing them damage.

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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2008, 20:07:20 PM »
Slightly off the topic but I keep reading the title as meaning treating poor sick worms with homeopathic remedies to make them better!  :rofl:

i nearly ignored this thread for that reason!! I can only blame it on being under the weather at the moment!!
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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2008, 19:34:50 PM »
 :-[ Christine  :evillaugh:

Actually, I only came into this thread again as I read it like that as well.


Regarding knowing if homepathic remedies have worked. Most of the time, you only know an animal is infested with parasites when they are full of them so I just wouldn't risk it.
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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2008, 18:13:24 PM »
Slightly off the topic but I keep reading the title as meaning treating poor sick worms with homeopathic remedies to make them better!  :rofl:

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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2008, 17:09:34 PM »
Slightly off the topic but I keep reading the title as meaning treating poor sick worms with homeopathic remedies to make them better!  :rofl:

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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2008, 16:05:54 PM »
If they don't work - then obviously you have coventional worming methods to fall back on, if they do work - all well and good  ;D

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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2008, 15:55:54 PM »
[At least if you want to try those homeopathic remedies in my previous post that Richard Allport recommends for worms you know you won't be doing any harm.

You will, if (when) they dont remove the worms,  :(.
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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2008, 15:51:06 PM »
Thanks for all your replies.  I have not tried any alternative therapies on my cats but i just wondered if any of you had tried them.  Obviously not,

I have, and do use alternative therapies, homeopathy in particular, just never tried it for worms etc, and as I said previously, homeopathy is completey safe to use. I have a homeopathic vet nearby who is brilliant - can't always afford her though  :( At least if you want to try those homeopathic remedies in my previous post that Richard Allport recommends for worms you know you won't be doing any harm.

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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2008, 14:51:24 PM »
It makes me wonder sometimes if the body would fight off such things as parasites on its own accord as wild cats are not wormed on a regular basis and they seem to cope with infestations. 

No they don't, Tinamary. Many feral cats and kittens die because of parasites. Kittens in particular perish very fast as a heavy infestation of fleas will drink them dry in a couple of days after birth.  :( The weather is an important factor when it comes to parasites. Summer months always bring on a epidemic of fleas and worms because hotter conditions make them breed faster.

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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2008, 14:46:37 PM »
It makes me wonder sometimes if the body would fight off such things as parasites on its own accord as wild cats are not wormed on a regular basis and they seem to cope with infestations.  Maybe we pamper them too much.

I would say: compare the life expectancies of animals (or people, for that matter) with and without access to medical care  :(
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2008, 14:42:01 PM »
Thanks for all your replies.  I have not tried any alternative therapies on my cats but i just wondered if any of you had tried them.  Obviously not, I love my cats so much and would not put anything in their systems without getting advice first.
It makes me wonder sometimes if the body would fight off such things as parasites on its own accord as wild cats are not wormed on a regular basis and they seem to cope with infestations.  Maybe we pamper them too much.

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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2008, 10:40:52 AM »
I think as much as we like the idea of natural products, sometimes things that have been extensively tested for safety and and are proven to work are the way to go. Garlic is in the same family as onions, Lilies, leeks - all toxic to cats as they don't have the enzymes to break them down. 100% healthy cats may be able to to digest them but any cat that may have liver problems could be very sick or die from being given garlic.
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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2008, 22:55:16 PM »
Tinamary was asking for HOMEOPATHIC remedies for parasites, rather than herbal remedies - two different things. There are homeopathic remedies for worms - no idea how effective they are, but homeopathy is completely safe, unlike some herbal remedies which I would be wary of using, especially garlic. Richard Allport recommends homeopathic Cina and Chenopodium for roundworms and Filix mas or Granatum for tapeworms.


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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2008, 22:05:24 PM »
Now I am also an advocate of vet bought wormers (just bought a fresh supply of drontal), but I'm happy to provide information. There is a product called Diatomaceous Earth which is 100% natural and is claimed to control parasites.

I have no idea if it really works (and don't want to try it on my lot)

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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2008, 22:01:56 PM »
I think I would stick to wormers from the vets.  I have heard of garlic being used, I work with a guy who's a gypsy and this is what they used to use to do any of their animals but the old ways aren't always the best as they didn't know the harm some of these methods can do.   Although may be safe in small quantities, it only takes one cat to get a bad reaction  :shy:

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I would be very wary of any homeopathic treatment unless, like Ruth says, they have undergone extensive long-term tests and are proven to be ok.

And unless they are proven to actually work, Sam  ;)
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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2008, 21:57:12 PM »
Please Note:  I was NOT recommending the use of Garlic I was simply passing on the information I found on the website.

I would be very wary of any homeopathic treatment unless, like Ruth says, they have undergone extensive long-term tests and are proven to be ok.
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2008, 21:52:28 PM »
I personally would not recommend garlic for cats. Whilst yes in small quantities it might not do immediate harm, it is still toxic and could cause long term harm.

I can respect the ideals behind wishing to look for homeopathic treatments but unless they are proven to work without causing long term harm I would steer clear.

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 21:41:53 PM »
Garlic is fine in small quantities. I just can't remember the quantities.

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2008, 21:28:09 PM »
Before you do anything just google 'garlic + toxic + cats'...

Here's just one of the links that states garlic (and onions) are toxic to cats http://www.veterinaryhelp.net/qa/onions-and-garlic-are-toxic-to-pets.html

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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2008, 21:27:31 PM »
I heard Garlic was toxic to cats.  :scared:

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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2008, 21:25:49 PM »
Thanks i do use conventional wormers at the moment, but i like to explore all options.
I did work for a homeopathic vet for a time but that was years ago and i never asked her.

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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2008, 21:21:07 PM »
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Natural Remedies for Cats - 20 tips
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" There are a whole variety of natural remedies that can work side by side with convential medicine. "

 
It is becoming more and more recognised that natural or alternative treatments can be beneficial for both pets and humans. Whilst a trip to the vet or doctors should not be discounted when faced with an injury or illness, herbal and natural remedies can work side by side with conventional medicine. Here are just a few remedies that are commonly used by cat owners.

 1)Allergies

 Ginko Biloba

This has a powerful anti-inflamatory action and inhibits bronchial constriction and hyper sensitivity.  It can aleviate symptoms as diverse as asthma alergies and memory problems.

It is best crushed into the food, but is not recommended for pregnant or lactating cats.

2)Bacterial infection/Immune System

 Bee Propolis

Propolis has been used throughout history to fight germs.  It has been used to heal wounds and tumours and also for abscesses.  It is probably one of the most effective natural antibiotics ever and has antibacterial, anti-viral and anti-parasitic properties.

Bee propolis is available in tablet form and also as a cream

3)Bad Breath

Aloe Vera Toothpaste.

Known for its healing properties, aloe vera has been shown to have beneficial effects in the treatment of various mouth problems from gingivitus to bad breath.  The paste is generally mixed with Bee propolis for added antibacterial asistance.

Bee Propolis

Strengthens the immune system and is antibacterial.  Some bacteria are extemely sensitive to propolis.

Chlorella

One of its principal functions is combating bad odors, bad breath as well as body odor.  This is apparently due to the magnesium it contains.

Sage

This belongs to the Labiate family which helps improve rheumatism, neuralgia, liver conditions, teeth and breath.

4)Cure Alls & First Aid

A selection of natural remedies have been shown to improve just about any sickness.  Its always worthwhile therefore to keep at least one of them in your first aid kit.  Here are some of the most popular.

Rescue Remedy

 A combination of five herbs which comfort and reassure.  It is also excellent for depression and stress.  Use at times of extreme shock or when introducing a new cat into the household (give some to the existing cat and take some yourself!) This amazing remedy can be bought at most chemists now.

 Aloe Vera Gel

Can be applied topically to wounds or burns or taken internally for Bowel problems.  It is excellent for treating skin problems such as psoriasis and Eczema and also stud tail!  Apply liberally! The best Aloe Vera can be bought online.  The health shops do tend to have dilute versions.

Chlorella

Only very small quantities can improve digestion, coat, growth and boost the immune system.Chlorella does not have an immediate effect but is ideal for long term maintenance and illnesses.

Chlorella is rich in chlorophyll and is said to purify the blood, cleansing it of toxins, combat anemia, rejuvinates and revitilises, stimulates the immune system, normalises blood pressure and combats bad odors.

5)Digestive disorders.

Slippery Elm powder.

This has been used in herbal remedies for over 100 years.  It is a nutritious food that was originally made into a type of pudding for those who had weak stomachs.  Slippery elm is soothing , eases digestion and works with the body to draw out the impurities.

A small amount added to the food can benefit any digestive upset.

 Aloe Vera Gel.

A teaspoonful a day mixed in with the food can improve your cats digestion from within. Called the 'Miracle Plant', Aloe Vera has been used for centuries to treat various disorders.  The abundance of vitamins and minerals in this juice (including the rare B12) makes this a vital supplement for vegetarians too.

Pumpkin

  For upset bowels Some cats like  it as is, but many people mix it with with a wet food. This can be bought in cans from health food shops or fresh from the supermarket.

6)Eye Infections

Callendula     

Commonly known as marigold, the leaves can be boiled and applied to wounds or a clean extract used to bathe the eyes.  Marigold has very good antibacterial properties.

Borage

Eliminates discomforts in the mouth (gum inflammation), throat and eyes.

7)Fatigue / Old age

Bee Pollen

Bee Pollen contains a broad spectrum of essential nutrients and is an ideal pick me up for the fatigued or old cat.  It has all the B complex vitamins and also A,C,D,E and K, which together provide more nutrients per calorie than an other nutritional supplement.

8)Fleas

Garlic

For some reason they just cannot stand the taste (or the smell) and if added daily to your pets food it should prove unnecessary to use chemical flea treatments.

Louis Pasteur discovered that this had the power to eliminate the growth of harmful bacteria and today it has also been found that it can protect the body from free radicals and boosts the bodies immune system. Many breeders use this as a day to day supplement in food.

Available as raw, fresh garlic or tablet or capsule form.

9)Growth Promoter

Chlorella

This single-celled fresh water algae has been shown to stimulate growth and accelerate the healing process.  It is ideal as a supplement in the food of under weight kittens and will also stimulate the immune system.

Chlorella can be found in some health shops (although not many) and on the web.  It is generally available in capsule or powder form.

10)Hyperthyroidism

Royal Gelly

This enhances the bodies metabolism as it is rich in natural B complex vitamins.

Readily available from chemists and online it is in tablet or capsule form and can be simply added to the food.

11)Injuries and burns

Aloe Vera Gelly

Historically this has been used for the treatment of cuts and burns. It is excellent as a first aid treatment and helps to alleviate scaring.

Arnica

Prevents or alleviates bruising and swelling and  is therefore good to use if a cat has any type of operation or injury,  or even again after giving birth. It's good for humans too to speed up recovery time after operations and apparently arnica cream  is a good way.

For humans to get rid of  love bites!!

12)Intestinal Parasites/worms

Garlic

Garlic has been used for centuries to treat worms and can be safely administered via food once a day for 15 days.

It is best used crushed but can be obtained in capsules which can be broken and poured on the food.

13)Liver and Kidney

Lycium

This originates in China where it is used as a traditional remedy for a variety of ailments.  Rich in amino acids it nourishes the liver and kidneys.  It also improves circulation  and aids in hearing and vision problems.

14)Obesity

Garcinia Cambogia.

The fruit from the south of india tree - Garcinia Cambogia.

This contains a very special compound which reduces the body's production of fats from carbohydrates so the animal burns existing fats and this aids in weight loss.  It also acts as a natural appetite suppressant.

Available in capsule form usually which must be given in a little food just before the main meal.

15)Pregnancy and Birth Problems

Raspberry leaf Caulophyllum

For pregnancy and birth. Raspberry leaf is a  herbal remedy and caulophyllum is a homeopathic remedy and they  do similar things. They tone the muscles of the uterus to  ensure that contractions are strong, and guard against uterine  inertia, where contractions fade out before its all over.  They are generally             recommended for cats which have experienced  problems giving birth.

16)Rheumatism

Dandelion

This is useful in a variety of illnesses but has shown beneficial signs in the treatment of Rheumatism.  It has a cleansing effect in the blood system and stimulates the production of bile.

Dandelion is available in some health shops.

17)Shock

 Rescue Remedy

One drop directly in the cats mouth will comfort and reassure.

See 'Cure all & First Aid for more information.     

18)Skin Problems

Aloe Vera Gelly

This is both soothing and healing. If applied directly to the skin it can be used to treat most skin conditions and its antibiotic properties are especially welcome.

19)Stud Tail

Aloe Vera Gelly

Applied daily on the area this will help to lift out any of the grease associated with stud tail.

Bee Propolis cream

The antibiotic properties of this cream will fight any infections normally associated with stud tail and stimulate the growth of new hair.

20)Travel Sickness

Cocculus

Treats nausea, travel sickness, dizziness and stress.

Available in tablet form to mix in with the food.

 

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Re: Homeopathy for worms
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2008, 21:04:49 PM »
Does anyone know of a cure for worms homeopathically.

No.  You do need to use wormer from your vet, Tinamary.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2008, 20:20:33 PM »
Does anyone know of a cure for worms homeopathically.

 


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