Topic: Un neutered Snow Bengal (Read 11702 times)

kelly-joy · « **Reply #49 on:** September 10, 2007, 10:50:25 AM »

Hope he does keep his word.

sheryl · « **Reply #48 on:** September 10, 2007, 10:46:13 AM »

I think he will Desley, Im sure that OH scared him half to death by telling him she could catch all sorts of diseases and even die giving birth. OH thinks that hes not a really bad person hust extremely ignorant. We will be keeping an eye out to see if he is keeping his word.

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #47 on:** September 10, 2007, 08:19:57 AM »

Fingers crossed he sticks to his word.

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #46 on:** September 09, 2007, 19:59:11 PM »

Thats great

JackSpratt · « **Reply #45 on:** September 09, 2007, 17:02:20 PM »

Excellent news, Sheryl.

And well done to the bf for seeing sense!

blackcat · « **Reply #44 on:** September 09, 2007, 12:37:41 PM »

yay excellent news, at least one good thing has come out of today. He may have just been feeling a little hassled last time you spoke if he was going through the dividing of assets stage of the relationship breakup.

sheryl · « **Reply #43 on:** September 09, 2007, 12:11:04 PM »

Hi all, sorry I havnt been arounnd but my big tabby boy Charlie had a horrific accident yesterday (I have aked for positive thoughts on health and bevaiour)

Some positive news for Meeka - while we were out looking for Charlie yeterday Ahole boyfriend who is now staying with the people who are looking after her came and helped look for Charlie, he apologised for giving us hassle a while ago and we had a long chat with him, I explained all the dangers she is facing and he has promised to keep her in and best of all he is going to get her spayed next week.

Fluffy · « **Reply #42 on:** September 09, 2007, 08:50:31 AM »

Any news on the little girl who started this whole thread off? Is she still wandering round, or has she disappeared? I hope she's safe.

Ela · « **Reply #41 on:** September 09, 2007, 08:17:58 AM »

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the new owners would not give it up although only they had only just received it and RSPCA refused to let the owners have it back

I remember that story and we never did find out the final decision, did we? It was also used as an example in the RSPCA bashing era. However, if you remember it was not just a case of a cat lost and found it was far more complicated and in all honesty I know many people thought the cat better off if it were not given back.

I know somewhere I have read or been told that there is one of these long forgotten old laws (as previously posted) where you can claim back for 6 or 7 yrs. I would hope though that no one would use this if they had lost the cat years ago and then found out it was now it was well cared for, happy and settled in another home. Microchipping would save a lot of problems when claiming a cat.

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #40 on:** September 09, 2007, 00:10:07 AM »

This thing of a cat as a possesion has been discussed both on Cat Chat and here before, cant remember the outcome cos it seemed to change every post.

Bbut do remember that there was fairly recently a case of a cat taken in by RSPCA and rehomed in days who had an owner and although they could prove it was their cat, the new owners would not give it up although only they had only just received it and RSPCA refused to let the owners have it back.

Ela · « **Reply #39 on:** September 08, 2007, 17:11:33 PM »

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Our CP immediately chips any cat that comes into our care. Where ever possible, we get the person reporting to sign the acceptance form. When someone reports a stray cat, we will take it in but always try to get them to sign.

A few years ago CP HQ provided every branch in the country with a chip reader and gave every branch the opportunity to have as many people trained to chip as they liked. Even now a branch only has to ask and HQ will arrange for chip training. HQ instruction say every cat must be signed in via the official HQ acceptance form.

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There are several ways a cat can dissappear. Sometimes certain CPs have been known to do an inter branch exchange with other branches many, many miles away...

Not that our CP would ever condone or take part in such a thing.

Absolutely agree it is a big no no accepting cats that have been borrowed. I make it very clear on the phone that I can only accept a stray once the finder has tried the various methods we suggest to find an owner. (A sick cat of course is treated differently and taken to a vet immediately).

Pinkbear (Julie) · « **Reply #38 on:** September 08, 2007, 16:28:55 PM »

This is why chipping is so useful. What better way to establish ownership?

Our CP immediately chips any cat that comes into our care. Where ever possible, we get the person reporting to sign the acceptance form. When someone reports a stray cat, we will take it in but always try to get them to sign. That way, if there's an owner, we acted in good faith after recieving reports of hardship and whatever happens to the cat in our care is for the cat's best interest and within our constitution. Neutering is a cornerstone of CPs philosophy and any cat coming into our care will be neutered as a matter of urgency.

Cats are still classed as possessions, along with any other kind of animal. Neutering of an animal in full knowledge of the fact it belongs to someone else may be classed as criminal damage.

There are several ways a cat can dissappear.

Sometimes certain CPs have been known to do an inter branch exchange with other branches many, many miles away...

Not that our CP would ever condone or take part in such a thing.

Ela · « **Reply #37 on:** September 08, 2007, 12:16:00 PM »

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but doesn't allow you to claim your cat back if it 'moves in' to someone else's house because technically a cat can't be owned????

I understand that in law if you can prove a cat is yours you can claim it back for 6 or 7 yrs, can't remember which.

Kelly · « **Reply #36 on:** September 08, 2007, 11:53:49 AM »

So the law allows you to sue someone for neutering your cat, but doesn't allow you to claim your cat back if it 'moves in' to someone else's house because technically a cat can't be owned???? Thats just double standards that is!!!!

Ela · « **Reply #35 on:** September 08, 2007, 10:56:43 AM »

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he can't sue you either as it isn't you who has done the spaying is it!

But that is why many vets would insist the cats are signed in at the time of the op. I think it would be an advantage if the cat wonders off

the sooner the better.

Kelly · « **Reply #34 on:** September 08, 2007, 10:40:30 AM »

TBH I really can't see you being arrested for this act - if you take her to a rescue and any police do call, simply say you couldn't be sure if it was his cat, and seeing as he has been threatening to you in the past you decided to let a rescue deal with it rather than you so that you didn't put yourself at risk of any physical or verbal abuse. The police have lots of real crimes to deal with - he can't sue you either as it isn't you who has done the spaying is it!

Ela · « **Reply #33 on:** September 08, 2007, 08:36:23 AM »

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Alternatively I have some contacts in the bengal world who might just 'help' her run away!

I am sure we would all be so upset of the little one got lost

Linda (Bengalbabe) · « **Reply #32 on:** September 07, 2007, 23:24:52 PM »

Apart from the neutering/spaying issues which i totally agree with, this little girl is in danger wandering about outside, it wont be long before someone realises shes a bengal or (being the highly energetic little bundles they are) she gets herself into trouble.

Sheryl, more than happy to help with this one, one option may be to call the bengal cat rescue and tell them you found her

Alternatively I have some contacts in the bengal world who might just 'help' her run away!

Fluffy · « **Reply #31 on:** September 07, 2007, 14:23:15 PM »

I don't think there's any point talking to the BF. He doesn't sound particularly reasonable to me.

And anyway: what's the proof that this IS their cat? As far as you know, you've just seen a little cat straying. If she were to come into your house for a feed and a rest, there's no harm done. And you'd not be responsible for where she went when she left you. Would you?

I'd love a bengal. Especially a snow bengal. Particularly a blue-eyed snow bengal. They are just so gorgeous.

blackcat · « **Reply #30 on:** September 06, 2007, 19:25:26 PM »

I'm with MM on this one. If the owner is a nasty piece of work (and he sounds it) then let the matter drop. Any more discreet options should be explored first.

Millys Mum · « **Reply #29 on:** September 06, 2007, 19:01:33 PM »

I would say nothing to the owner as if the cat goes missing you will be the first port of call.

Ela · « **Reply #28 on:** September 06, 2007, 09:40:10 AM »

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Don't pay for her as then he just go out and buy another and we will be in this state again

Although I sort of agree, the bottom line is this cat.

Is it possible you could advise him (or perhaps you already have):- Benefits of Spaying (females):
No heat cycles, therefore males will not be attracted.
Less desire to roam
Risk of mammary gland tumors, ovarian and/or uterine cancer is reduced or eliminated. Even one season increases the chance of cancer later in life. So indoors cats need spaying also. Cats & dogs will not acquire pyometra a life threatening infection & it reduces the risk of feline aids and leukaemia which s rife in our area.
Reduces the number of unwanted cats/kittens and dogs/puppies
Helps dogs and cats live 3 – 5 YEARS LONGER, healthier lives.

If you want to go down the line of paying for the cat I would buy it although it is something I do not like to encourage, (depending on price of course). I am sure I could re-home it.

kelly-joy · « **Reply #27 on:** September 06, 2007, 09:15:39 AM »

Don't pay for her as then he just go out and buy another and we will be in this state again

sheryl · « **Reply #26 on:** September 06, 2007, 09:13:24 AM »

We went for a wander over the field last night and pretended we were calling our Charlie but didnt see her, no sign this morning either so will have another look tonight.

OH has suggested we approach the Asshole B/F and offer to buy her but TBH I dont think he would go for it and funds are a bit tight at the moment, will let you all know if i see her tonight.

JackSpratt · « **Reply #25 on:** September 05, 2007, 19:05:18 PM »

Awww, sorry Sheryl. I'm not close enough otherwise I'd have done a bit of a covert operation!

Anyone?

Millys Mum · « **Reply #24 on:** September 05, 2007, 17:07:03 PM »

Quote from: Susanne (urbantigers) on September 05, 2007, 13:10:12 PM

Unspayed cats that go outside do have a habit of wandering and getting lost, don't they?

Yes regularly

The sooner the better then Sheryl, lets hope she doesnt call yet if shes small for her age.

sheryl · « **Reply #23 on:** September 05, 2007, 14:33:57 PM »

Hi, We are just off the A1 between Grantham & Stamford in Lincs - the field that she is playing in is quite close to the A1 which is a worry - a biger worry is that we found out last night
that the nieghbours who live 2 doors away from where she is staying has got 2 "complete" toms.

Susanne (urbantigers) · « **Reply #22 on:** September 05, 2007, 13:10:12 PM »

Unspayed cats that go outside do have a habit of wandering and getting lost, don't they?

JackSpratt · « **Reply #21 on:** September 05, 2007, 13:02:51 PM »

Sheryl, whereabouts are you? PM me if you'd rather not put it on a thread.

sheryl · « **Reply #20 on:** September 05, 2007, 12:57:29 PM »

naughty indeed - but its not you lot who will probably get arrested

JackSpratt · « **Reply #19 on:** September 05, 2007, 12:54:18 PM »

And, obviously, I am.....

kelly-joy · « **Reply #18 on:** September 05, 2007, 12:32:26 PM »

Aren't we all so naughty we should be a shamed of ourselfs

Ela · « **Reply #17 on:** September 05, 2007, 12:15:49 PM »

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I very much doubt if she has even had her vaccinations Ela let alone been chipped

In that case what a shame it would be if it disapeared.

JackSpratt · « **Reply #16 on:** September 05, 2007, 12:06:47 PM »

Then he's no solid proof the cats even his! Legally, he'd not really stand much of a chance if the cat isn't even registered to him.

sheryl · « **Reply #15 on:** September 05, 2007, 11:43:49 AM »

I very much doubt if she has even had her vaccinations Ela let alone been chipped

Ela · « **Reply #14 on:** September 05, 2007, 09:25:05 AM »

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She would need to be taken to somewhere a little bit away from where you live.

But is she chipped?

Michelle (furbabystar) · « **Reply #13 on:** September 05, 2007, 00:31:49 AM »

Quote from: kelly-joy on September 04, 2007, 22:35:58 PM

Why don't you get someone else to get it and take it straight up to a rescue and say they found it straying. Then as long as shes not chipped they can spay her and there is nothing the owner can do.

Thats a very good idea.

She would need to be taken to somewhere a little bit away from where you live.
Could you get a friend to do it for you ?

kelly-joy · « **Reply #12 on:** September 04, 2007, 22:35:58 PM »

Why don't you get someone else to get it and take it straight up to a rescue and say they found it straying. Then as long as shes not chipped they can spay her and there is nothing the owner can do. and also its nothing to do with you so if he comes to your door just say well I am not surpised she has gone missing shes a ped cat that should be indoors you were asking for trouble letting her out. Then if he does ring round to try and find her which I very much doubt the rescue can say yes she was brought in and is recovering well from being spayed.

sheryl · « **Reply #11 on:** September 04, 2007, 19:57:16 PM »

You cannot imagine what an Ass he is, and very nasty with it
Im going to talk to OH later and see what we can do, he took some photos of her today - I will try and post some tomorrow

Dawn (DiddyDawn) · « **Reply #10 on:** September 04, 2007, 19:53:17 PM »

I would catnap and let her disappear

He sounds a complete

and really doesn't deserve to have her.

Author Topic: Un neutered Snow Bengal (Read 11702 times)