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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2007, 12:14:55 PM »
Does anyone know what is the latest news about  a Liverpool CP?
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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2007, 18:25:08 PM »
Have you tried emailing her?
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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2007, 16:47:30 PM »
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Does Liz(Catwhisperer) still come on here? She will probably know more than me.

Just looked and she has not been on since Feb 11th.
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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2007, 15:23:41 PM »
Hi Ela,

Well because of my lack of technology over the last couple of months, I'm afraid i don't have much of an update.

I have missed the last couple of meetings, but i am hoping to start attending again so i will let you know.

Does Liz(Catwhisperer) still come on here? She will probably know more than me.

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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2007, 13:44:00 PM »
BUMP.  Please has anyoneone Aay more info?

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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2007, 22:29:03 PM »
Does anyone know the latest on the opening of a Liverpool CP branch?
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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2007, 17:26:22 PM »
I'm glad that the CP seems to be happening.  I would love to help but at the moment I am not in a position to foster or anything much else as I don't have transport and I am really busy at Uni until May - But I have told Sarah (who has kept me notified by email) that I will be happy to help over the summer months when I am not working until I am back at Uni in October.  I may eventually get to meet some catchatters too :)

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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2007, 15:35:10 PM »
Yes, probably just me having a bad experience with my local animal welfare over a stray cat. I was calling them up over a 7 month period and never got a reply, once. When I first spoke to the woman and told her the situation she said call back in a few weeks as they didn't have room at the time. So I kept calling throughout the 7 months, not able to speak to her but they would give her a message, she didn't call. I had also called the local CP but she said if he is feral he would be no good in the pens because of his unfriendliness etc. So got back in touch with the AW and told them I was moving and wanted this sorted out, they finally brought a cat basket for me to catch him, not a trap which I had asked for, so I was having the stress of moving and trying to catch this cat. I didn't manage to catch him so I took the basket back in person so I could have a talk with this person, again she said I will let you know when a trap becomes available, which was no good to me as I was moving out the next week.

So I moved out with a lot of stress and worry for this cat as I knew I was the only person feeding him. I could not live with the guilt of leaving him behind so I went back to my old address every night to feed him. The neighbours were worrying me as they were saying he was sitting on the wall meowing every night.

My mum moved a couple of weeks after me and said if I can catch him she would take him in. So I called the CP and said I have a home for him (that seemed to help a lot) and needed a trap to catch him.

We sat out on Mon night, he just walked straight past it, Tues night we didn't see him at all. So very dishearted that I was going to get him at all, I went out on Wed night and within the first half hour he was caught. I couldn't believe me eyes, I cried.

Blacky is doing really well now with my mum, hopefully she will give us an update soon.

Long story over.

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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2007, 15:03:34 PM »
Round here Social Services are not that bad, I know of once case where they paid over £1000 for 3 cats to be in a cattery until we could bring them in.
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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2007, 14:19:55 PM »
If the service user has not chosen an option for their pet after the eight week period, the Animal Warden should be asked to re-home the pet permanently, if possible.
If this is not possible the animal should be put down humanely, with the consent of the service manager.

And this is why alot of council animal welfare services are destroying animals, I dont think any are rehomed, they dont care!

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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2007, 14:13:09 PM »
Part of it:-

Pets
Your duties and rights as a pet owner

Pet owners and their responsibilities
Under the Protection of Animals Act 1911, owners have a legal responsibility to care for their animals and to make sure they do not suffer unnecessarily. It is an offence to be cruel to the animal, or to abandon it, if it is likely to cause the animal unnecessary suffering.

Pet owners are also responsible for any damage their animal causes if they knew (or should have known) it was likely to cause such damage or if their animal is defined as dangerous. (In law, dangerous animals are those which are not domesticated in this country and might be expected to have dangerous characteristics, for example, a monkey or snake.) Most household insurance policies cover the holder against damage to a third party by their pet, if the existence of the pet has been notified to the insurers.

Duties of dog owners
Under the Control of Dogs Order 1992, anyone owning a dog must make sure it wears a collar, with the name and address of its owner, when it is in a public place. Most areas have local bylaws making it an offence to allow a dog to foul the footpath.

Dangerous dogs
It is also an offence under the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 to allow a dog to be dangerously out of control in a public place. The owner or person in charge of a dog which injures someone can be fined or imprisoned for up to six months. The court can also have the dog destroyed and disqualify the owner from keeping a dog in the future. A farmer is allowed to shoot a dog that is not under anyone's control and is worrying livestock on her or his land.

Guard dogs
Under the Guard Dog Act 1975, guard dogs should be under the control of a handler or else tied up and not be able to roam freely. A warning notice should also be displayed. The Act does not apply to private houses or farmland.

Difficulty in caring for a pet
When someone goes into hospital or is placed by the local authority in residential care or a nursing home, the local authority has a duty under the National Assistance Act 1948 to make sure that the householder's property is properly protected. This protection includes the care of any pets. If the person is unable to find suitable care for their animal, the local authority will find an appropriate temporary home. It may ask for a contribution to the cost from the owner.

The Cinnamon Trust operates a pet fostering service for pets whose owners have gone into hospital or have moved to accommodation where pets are not accepted. [See Inform Box for contact details].

Section 48 of the National Assistance Act 1948 places a duty on the local authority to protect the property of persons admitted as a patient to any hospital, admitted to Part III accommodation or removed to any other place under an order made under Section 47 (3) of the National Assistance Act 1948.
 
The term Part III is also taken to apply to private and voluntary rest and nursing homes following the National Health Service and Community Care Act of 1990.
 
Assistance will only be provided if the person is
" A patient in any hospital
" Admitted to Part III accommodation
" Removed to any other place under an order made under Section 47 (3) of the National
Assistance Act 1948
and
" It appears that no other suitable arrangements have been or are being made ( e.g. by relatives, friends, solicitors etc. )
 
Charging
The person's ability to pay may be taken into consideration and they may be financially assessed and required to meet some or all of the cost.

A LOCAL AUTHORITYS INSTRUCTIONS


Property Protection
Q. Who looks after pets when the owners are hospitalised?
A. You do, as a Local Authority!!
Many of us who work in the field of animal welfare, from Local Authority Animal / Dog Wardens to local animal charities have all at some time received a call about an animal that has been left in a property (abandoned). After making enquiries you have found that the owner has been hospitalised either through ill health or mental illness. Under certain circumstances Local Authorities Social Services have a legal duty to provide protection of property (this includes pets).
Below is part of a Section 48 Procedure under the National Assistance Act 1948,
What is Property Protection?
Councils have a legal duty to provide protection of property under S.48 of the National Assistance Act 1948 ('The Act').
Where a person:
(a) Is admitted as a patient to any hospital, or
(b) is admitted to accommodation provided under Part III of this Act, i.e. residential care, or
(c) is removed to any other place under subsection (3) of the last foregoing section. and it appears to the council that there is a danger of loss of, or damage to, any movable property by reason of his/her temporary or permanent inability to protect or deal with the property, and that no other suitable arrangements have been made, it shall be the duty of the council to take reasonable steps to prevent or mitigate loss or damage.
What are the Property Protection Principles?
We have a duty to:
(a) Act in the best interest of the service user at all times.
(b) Look after the service users property, including pets.
(c) Make sure the service users money is being used to give him or her the best possible quality of life.
(d) Keep any property secure, in a reasonable state of repair, and ensure that adequate insurance is in place.
(e) Keep all important documents and other valuable items in a safe place.
(f) Take reasonable steps to prevent or mitigate any loss or damage.

What does Property Protection involve?
The services provided by the Council under the Act are as follows:
n Securing service users property.
n Conducting inventories of service users property.
n Storage of service users property.
n Arranging for the boarding of pets.
n Arranging the valuation, sale or disposal of service users property.

Is the service user eligible for Property Protection?
The service user must be in hospital, a residential care home or removed to suitable premises because they were in need of care and attention.
There must appear to be a danger of loss or damage to the service users property due to their temporary or permanent inability to protect or deal with the property.
There is no appropriate third party willing to protect the property on the service users behalf.


Overview
Councils have a legal duty to provide protection of property under S.48 of the
National Assistance Act 1948 ('The Act').
This includes the welfare of pets who may be neglected whilst the service user:
(a) Is admitted as a patient to any hospital, or
(b) is admitted to accommodation provided under Part 111 of this Act, i.e. residential care, or
(c) is removed to any other place under subsection (3) of the last foregoing section.
This procedure deals with the options available to the resident.
What are my obligations in relation to pet care?
> Contact any relatives, neighbours or friends to see if they wish to board the pet.
> All animal related queries should be referred to the Animal Warden.
> Any unattended animal must be removed and boarded within a 24 hour period.
> All pets are treated as movable property under the National Assistance Act 1948.

How Do Social Services arrange for a pet to be looked after?
Take the following steps:
Step 1: Contact the Animal Warden
> As soon as you become aware that a pet will be left unattended for more than 24 hours, you must contact the Animal Warden and inform him of the need to board a pet.
Step 2: Arrange to gain access to the service user's home
> Obtain the keys to the service users home or
> Arrange for a locksmith to meet you & the Animal Warden at the service users home to change the locks.
> The Animal Warden will remove the pet and arrange boarding.

Step 3: Options available to the Service User
If the service user is in permanent residential care and is able to make informed decisions, the following options should be considered, and where possible the service users wishes adhered to:
> Re-homing on a permanent basis through the Animal Warden.
> Placing the pet in kennels permanently providing that the service user is willing to pay for this directly.
> Put the animal down humanely - the service user can choose to have the animal put down via a Veterinary Surgeon.
If the service user is mentally incapable of expressing a preference:
> An attempt should be made via the animal warden to re-home the pet. If this proves unsuccessful the pet should be put down humanely.
If the service user has not chosen an option for their pet after the eight week period, the Animal Warden should be asked to re-home the pet permanently, if possible.
If this is not possible the animal should be put down humanely, with the consent of the service manager.



 

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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2007, 13:57:35 PM »
What is the 1948 national assistance act Ela?

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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2007, 13:53:10 PM »
Is the Liverpool Branch opening soon?
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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2007, 09:50:20 AM »
How are things progressing on the Liverpool CP front please?
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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2006, 16:42:37 PM »
Ems,

well done.
as far as the lost and found register get in touch with the local petsearch volunteer on 01515 235741 and see if they can help or perhaps you can use them for it?

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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2006, 15:56:14 PM »
I am so pleased, if ever anyone wants any of my help, copies of the numerous posters I have made etc, please let me know or general advice I am always willing to help. I have been with CP for over 16 yrs. and Co-ordinator for about 3 or 4.  It takes many many years and then you don't know everything. I know I learn something new most days. Only the other day I was speaking with someone from another branch and she had no idea about the 1948 national assistance act and how it effects cats. Something very simple but everyone in rescue should know. I know CP gave this info to branches many years ago. Although I knew before that but have no idea how I found out.
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Re: CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2006, 15:27:27 PM »
Brilliant Ems, nice work. Is there anything I can help with from my desk in Manchester?
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CP Liverpool - Update
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2006, 15:21:32 PM »
Hi Everyone,

Just thought i would let you know how we are getting on with the CP Liverpool set up.

Is all well on the road of being set up and the branch will hopefully be fostering by January/February. Still need a lot more volunteers but the Committee is up and running (including the lovely Liz - Catwhisperer)  ;D

We now have a telphone line and will be getting box numbers to access messages soon (hopefully!) so will have a comprehensive lost and found register (hopefully sooner rather than later!)

Hope Liz(Catwhisperer) doesn't mind me filling everyone in, so many of you were so helpful when it was going wrong so thought i'd let you know some positives.

Everyone keep fingers and paws crossed please!  :wish:

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