Topic: Metacam and Duchas back leg (Read 9196 times)

Steff - Petsearch Bedford HQ · « **Reply #67 on:** July 15, 2010, 20:44:28 PM »

Fab news

Sounds like Metacam has given Ducha a new lease of life

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #66 on:** July 15, 2010, 18:52:37 PM »

Must give him some more cos its lingering in the fridge..sigh

He is a right little explorer now and a couple of days ago came down stairs wenr through the flap and was 50 ft down the garden when I saw him LOL.............he hasnt been out likr that for 2-3 yaers!

I so wish I had known he was in pain before cos metacam has helped him so much.

Janeyk · « **Reply #65 on:** July 15, 2010, 15:55:09 PM »

Lovely photos

and I do agree with Richard. Byron has been bad with her back leg recently and I've always been reluctant with Metacam but the improvement since I've been giving her it is so worth it. I would not want to think she's in pain at her age.

purrdy1 · « **Reply #64 on:** July 15, 2010, 14:39:40 PM »

he says he needs the extra protien!

alisonandarchie · « **Reply #63 on:** July 11, 2010, 21:22:09 PM »

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #62 on:** July 11, 2010, 21:15:22 PM »

Thank you and he seems to be a bit more stable everyday, until he does something daft lol

He ate Misas chicken tonight, wondered which birman was crawling over the back of my legs

puggy1975 Zoe · « **Reply #61 on:** July 11, 2010, 21:14:23 PM »

Hugs to the lovely Ducha, hope his leg ok and not in pain

Zoe

alisonandarchie · « **Reply #60 on:** July 11, 2010, 21:06:03 PM »

So glad Ducha has picked up, he is so handsome

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #59 on:** July 08, 2010, 23:31:59 PM »

Thank you and have told him

Millys Mum · « **Reply #58 on:** July 08, 2010, 21:12:34 PM »

purrdy1 · « **Reply #57 on:** July 08, 2010, 21:09:40 PM »

Gill that is one super beautiful cat!!! my goodness! hes aitn a prince...hes a king!

AWESOME xxxx

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #56 on:** July 08, 2010, 20:09:40 PM »

Thank you all and he is lying by myside at the moment

Rosella moggy · « **Reply #55 on:** July 08, 2010, 08:11:14 AM »

Isn't he just a dream boat

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #54 on:** July 08, 2010, 07:56:07 AM »

Lovely pics.

Kirst · « **Reply #53 on:** July 08, 2010, 06:43:22 AM »

Gld he is on the mend - lovely pictures , he is sooooooooo like my Oscar.

bunglycat · « **Reply #52 on:** July 08, 2010, 00:53:13 AM »

Glad he is getting better , just needs to listento you a bit more now , bless him.

Steff - Petsearch Bedford HQ · « **Reply #51 on:** July 07, 2010, 23:02:57 PM »

Glad Ducha's leg is improving and also glad Richard was able to reassure you and put your mind at rest. I agree its better for him to be comfortable everyday so he can be happy :D

Soap was running around crazy as ever when she had her poorly paw...I just wanted her to rest...but she wouldn't listen either...cats eh!!

Hugs for Ducha and the rest of the crew

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #50 on:** July 07, 2010, 22:36:07 PM »

Oh I think I can do that LOL

He is being so hi energy for him but its getting him into trouble,,,,,,,sigh

He wont listen to no and thats caused him to fall again, I wish him and his brother would just blomin listen cos I cant move that fast!

Pictures, right lol

Here is my little 3 legged blue point birman

MM

Millys Mum · « **Reply #49 on:** July 07, 2010, 21:08:49 PM »

I agree gill, i know i'd prefer a shorter but painfree life getting around like normal then being all stiff and uncomfy, just sleeping away the days

Fingers crossed he contines his new lease of life

think this thread needs a pic

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #48 on:** July 07, 2010, 19:00:36 PM »

Had to go to pick up litter toda\y which is round corner from vets, so popped in and spoke to Richard about Ducha.

Told him that Duchas leg is better than it was but not fully better but he is a much happier cats and think he must have been in pain prior to the fall,

Richard says to halve the doseage and probably it will be best for him to stay on this for the rest of his life now. He says with this kind of very low dosage even if he was pre-renal there would be very little problem as the metacam is so good and he considers that a cat to live without pain is preferable to an extremely long painful life.

This pleased me cos I so agree.

Richard said I could bring him in for bloods to check but I explained that he cant be pilled and cos of my duff hand I cant even open his mouth. so even if he was slipping down that route there was nothing that could be done in terms of medication, so didnt think there was much point and Richard agreed, especially as Ducha is 17 next month which is old for a birman.

He said that he always opted to go for the route that stopped a cat being in pain even if it meant a shorter life but a happy one.

Ducha is eating better and bopping around when he is not asleep and leg is quite good as long as he concentrates on what he is doing...............he tends to be looking around and getting distracted

He has never shown any sign of pain but think he must have been hurting, poor boy, he is also managing to use the tray better cos think he had problems getting in and out. His back leg is now working in its normal line and not in the middle as it was before and wasnt sure that this was right but Richard says this is much better for him, so looks like he gets some syrup every morning from now on

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #47 on:** July 04, 2010, 21:32:22 PM »

Dont know how he is tonight yet cos he is fast asleep but earlier was playing chase with Franta...........sigh

Millys Mum · « **Reply #46 on:** July 04, 2010, 19:54:24 PM »

Its the same thing in the 3ml bottles, its just a small bottle with a short 'expiry' for a short course, stops people hoarding and giving something at a later date that they shouldnt be

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #45 on:** July 04, 2010, 12:36:33 PM »

Its easier from my finger LOL

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #44 on:** July 04, 2010, 12:29:06 PM »

I think vets say it to be on the safe side, as quite a lot of cats who are on it will be due to accident/operation, and the kind who might go off their food, so would be more at risk of it causing stomach issues.

Gill, you could try giving him just a small amount of food with it mixed in in his bowl, and then giving him the rest once you know it has been eaten.

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #43 on:** July 04, 2010, 12:27:24 PM »

Yes I have the 3ml bottle too

I cant open his mouth so its going in food on my finger to make sure he gets it, which I couldnt be sure if I mixed it with his food in a dish cos he eats very little.

He is eating better now with the metacam.......sigh,,,,,,,,just hope his leg gets better too!

Steff - Petsearch Bedford HQ · « **Reply #42 on:** July 04, 2010, 12:19:42 PM »

That is what the leaflet with my 3ml batch said...although I took that to mean you could put it in food or direct into their mouth whenever as it doesn't say MUST be given with food i.e. If you squirt direct into their mouth it must be at feeding time.

That part of the instructions is a bit ambiguous and could be open to interpretation I think especially coupled with the varying advice vets give.

Like I said I played save and gave it to Soap in her food cos I could.

She even ate her anti b tablet in her food too...how good was she!!!

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #41 on:** July 04, 2010, 12:14:17 PM »

That's interesting. The leaflet with the 15ml does say give orally or with food, and even has a picture of them putting it in food - maybe it has recently been changed (as the 3ml bottle is fairly new) and I have one of the older bottles.

Steff - Petsearch Bedford HQ · « **Reply #40 on:** July 04, 2010, 12:06:56 PM »

I was given the 3ml bottle for Soap and it has 14 day shelf life once open printed on the box. Would make sense that the bigger bottle is made to last for longer

The leaflet didn't say it had to be given with food but did give a special warning about not giving to cats suffering from gastrointestinal disorders. My vets sticker does say to give with food though.

I did give it to Soap with food because it was no problem. As a human I tend to take any medicine with food (unless it says not too) just because may dad now has stomach problems after prolonged use of tablets after a car crash and subsequent operations to fix him after the crash

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #39 on:** July 04, 2010, 11:58:53 AM »

They did used to make a dog metacam, but once the cat version was approved, they cant' give the dog version anymore, which is a shame as the cat one is more expensive!! My bottle of Metacam does say 6 month shelf life once opened - as does the leaflet that came with it. Mine have always been the 15ml bottles, I wonder if you have the 3ml bottle?

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #38 on:** July 04, 2010, 11:51:11 AM »

Yes he only eats fish foods and he loves it with metacam in it

Didnt they used to use dog metacam for cats? What I have is the new cat metacam which vet says is slightly weaker. The leaflet does not say it has to be given with food and the life of the contents once opened is 14 days and this is printed on it.

Rosella has spoken to the manufactors and they confirm that it does not need to be given with food.

Different size bottles have different use dates the label says but none are as long as 6 months once opened, Have to say on thinking about it the former makes no sense!

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #37 on:** July 04, 2010, 09:43:09 AM »

does he like fishy flavoured foods Gill - that is the only kind of food I have been able to hide Metacam in with a couple of cats. Interesting that the manufacturers say it doesn't have to be given with food seeing as that is what they put in their leaflet. The bottles do last longer than that though Gill, the shelf life is 6 months.

MM - my vet agreed that the Metacam could be what tipped Zi's kidney's over - I didn't get bloods done straight away as I didn't like our locum vet, but they were done within a month of her being on it and showed her to have CRF. I would have to agree on them causing gastric issues, Tiger had terrible stomach issues at one point, she even saw a specialist for it and nothing was found and it was only after she went to the bridge that someone on the US forum said about it being a side effect

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #36 on:** July 03, 2010, 23:21:37 PM »

Yes I have been wondering if he was hurting before but I didnt know

I dont have anywhere to ground him and he has been down stairs 3 times tonight but have carried him back up twice which he didnt like, he only seems to come down at night and he is not as energetic tonight although he was looking at the top of the back of the sofa with love and I told him noooooooooooo you arent going there and he was not happy.

If it gets out of hand then may have to investigate a cage but dont have anywhere to put it and the thoughts of the birman howls and constant meowing are a nightmare............an hour in the car was enough!

I think I just have to hope that he is feeling better but he still is wobbly and falls over if he tries to go too fast.

Millys Mum · « **Reply #35 on:** July 03, 2010, 20:40:54 PM »

Quote from: trigger on July 03, 2010, 11:28:59 AM

if he is eating better and running around more with the Metacam, it might be he has been in some discomfort for some time before he hurt his leg

do you think that is a possibility?

Sounds like theres a good chance

Quote from: Mark on July 03, 2010, 09:39:09 AM

I'm still not convinced as it is contra-indicated for cats with gastric issues on Noah. There must be a reason for that.

I think its an ideal but to use with caution in such an animal. Not many have gastro reactions to it but its listed like in human meds, most things iv taken list coma or death as a possible outcome

Liz · « **Reply #34 on:** July 03, 2010, 14:39:21 PM »

Gill sounds like he needs grounded in a smaller space for a couple of days so he can rest and not do stairs etc - we have had to do this with several of ours after they have had leg injuries from falling out of trees or off the top of the wardrobe - they hate us for it but it does mean they rest and sleep

Janeyk · « **Reply #33 on:** July 03, 2010, 12:08:42 PM »

Glad to hear that Ducha is seeming better, it sounds like the Metacam is helping

I've started to give Byron 1 drop every other day or so because she's starting to show signs of discomfort and struggles to jump on the sofa now.

Kay and Penny · « **Reply #32 on:** July 03, 2010, 11:28:59 AM »

if he is eating better and running around more with the Metacam, it might be he has been in some discomfort for some time before he hurt his leg

do you think that is a possibility?

Mark · « **Reply #31 on:** July 03, 2010, 09:39:09 AM »

I'm still not convinced as it is contra-indicated for cats with gastric issues on Noah. There must be a reason for that.

Steff - Petsearch Bedford HQ · « **Reply #30 on:** July 03, 2010, 00:26:24 AM »

Oh Gill...Poor Ducha...hope his leg starts to get better soon

Soap has just finished her course of metacam for her poorly foot and it definitely helped because it was quite swollen

I was lucky as she liked the taste and would either take it in her food or from the syringe

I did also get the "old vets tale" about giving with/after food

for you and Ducha

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #29 on:** July 02, 2010, 23:16:07 PM »

Thanks MM and Mark cos missed the posts.

I am trying not to panic MM but he is making it hard and if we go over the 5 days I will ring Richard cos he asked me too.

Yes I am sure he likes the taste LOL but only have one fully working hand which makes it impossible for me to open his mouth, actually the vets have a problem too!

So its food off my finger and its obviously making him feel good cos he usually never comes down stairs and right now I wish he would stop bouncing around.........sigh...he is also eating more than usual which is good cos he doesnt eat enough normally
.

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #28 on:** July 02, 2010, 23:08:08 PM »

Oh Liz thats nearly twice the weight of Ducha cos he loses nearly a kilo cos of his missing leg, mind you his lightness probably helps him.

However he must have read what you said cos he came downstairs again for the third time and then took a flying leap at the cat tree behind my back and fell again, he is worrying me so much but doesnt seem to have a care in the world...........sigh

Had to carry him back upstairs cos he was struggling so much but he just fought all the way cos he wanted to do it by himself!

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