I dont think they were Mark, just prob struggling as they have just paid for neuter and declaw and then another vet bill on top, and I think the focus should have been on helping them and the cat, not having a go cos of something they had done, we dont know why they did it. People should have a responsibility, but a lot of people follow vets advice, and at the end of the day, they are the professionals, not everyone spends lots of time on forums learning about things, often people do find us once there is a problem.