I really need your guy's advice!!!

[bunglycat]

Ok , just wondered -that was just a query not for anyone to remove one though !

[Millys Mum]

Not easily, people who steal dogs/cats have tried and failed leaving horrible injuries 
Guess a vet could find it with xrays and get it that way

[bunglycat]

Can a chip be removed ?

[Bazsmum]

I doubt very much if the cat is chipped judging by the way she is being looked after .

In some area chippings have been done for free so please scan and dont rule a chip out! 

(Chippings< sounds weird!)

[bunglycat]

To be honest -don''t wait till things get worse - that cat needs to go to a rescue asap and get a forever loving home where she will be properly cared for .
Poor little cat may have fleas and all sorts if she has never been to a vet ! she could have health issues here - think this needs doing asap in my opinion.

[scattycat]

"I doubt very much if the cat is chipped judging by the way she is being looked after."

I'm sure you're right - I have to also say that in the 2 and half years that this bloke has lived there I cannot recall seeing her being taken in a cat carrier anywhere - so am going to also assume that she's not having any vaccinations/boosters or possibly even flea treatment.

If things did get worse I know we'd be very tempted to catnap her and take her somewhere she will get looked after - I dare say the bloke wouldnt be worried if she didnt turn up - he'd probably think it's one less thing for him to do!

[bunglycat]

Hi,
In all honesty -i would carry on feeding and enticing this cat and then take her to a good rescue and get her re-homed .
I doubt very much if the cat is chipped judging by the way she is being looked after .
Wouldn''t hesitate in getting her re-homed at all .

[scattycat]

Have just had a phone call from the RSPCA inspector, he said he was ringing concerning the letter I'd faxed to them.

He said that the note which appeared on the blokes door was from him (though I'm sure it was put there by the people he spoke to last week) and that apparently he's spoken to the bloke who's 'feeding' her by telephone.

I did explain that we were just concerned about her welfare, as it wasn’t until Wednesday night that it was the first time we'd seen someone feed and let the cat in the house - and that we thought that it was done for 'show'.

He said that theres nothing he can really do as his hands are tied by the laws in place as we'd have to prove that the cat wasn’t being fed nor sheltered - but for longer than a 24 hour period - and as the neighbour iis doing this (now) theres nothing that can really be done.

I did say that when the bloke comes back off of holiday he'll probably start spending time at the gf's and leave the cat out - the Inspector said that he felt that the bloke (if he were to spend 2 days away) as he'd asked a neighbour to feed/shelter his cat, that if he were to spend 2 days away that he'd cater for someone to feed the cat during that time - I disagreed with him on that point and said that I could see his point of view as he's got to take an 'outsiders' view point and from what he's been told from the neighbours - however I said that we were seeing it from our viewpoint - which he understood.

However, he did say that if we noticed that this bloke does spend more than 24 hours away from the property (i.e. from the point he goes out and had been fed) if it appears that after 48 hours no-one has been over to feed/shelter her to call them - I nearly said 'I'm not going to bother if I get that a***hole of an adviser again' but didn’t

I said to him that I hope it didn’t seem like I was having a right go in the fax, but that we just felt like no-one cared about her. He said that he'd rather have 100 of those types of letters, investigate it to find that the cat is being 'relatively well looked after'   (I like how he said 'relatively' so not perfect then) than have none and find that the cat is being abused.

He did ask what times the neighbour was getting home, and I told him the past 3 nights it was 11.15pm, 10pm, 11pm - he said as she was being fed / seen to within a 24hr period theres nothing he could do. I did explain that before going to bed I put out a dish of food, and that she tried to get inside our house (explained we were tempted but having 3 cats we had to think of our guys welfare first) also told him how she'd been 'shooed' out of a house (due to her being allowed in the house by the previous occupants) - which is why we were concerned for her.

So, quite clearly when Mr Crap Cat owner gets home, he'll no doubt have his neighbours saying 'someones reported you' and spoken to us - and then probably turn around and look at our house! But who cares if he does - if he's stupid enough to do any damage to anything we'll just get him reported to the police for criminal damage.

[scattycat]

Just to give you guys an update -

The neighbour 'looking after the cat' turned up at 11pm - she was out the front at the time and he let her in the frotn door, clearly fed her, and appears that she spent the night indoors in her house. I saw her this morning so assume he fed her and kicked her out for the day.

However - I will just add that last night and the previous night was the first time that this neighbour has a. gone in the front door, and b. put lights on in the house, and c. as far as we're concerned let her stay indoors overnight.

The reason we feel for this is on the Wednesday morning the other neighbours (the other side of the cat owner) had put a note on this owners front door - I couldnt go over to see what it said as it was daylight and would have been obvious it'd been me feeding it - but we have a feeling that it said something like 'someones reported him/you to the RSPCA you better make it obvious you're feeding the cat and letting her stay in' - as like I say since 11 May when this bloke went on holiday, it was only 11 days later the first time that it was obvious someone was 'looking after the cat' - we dont believe that he was letting her 'in the back' as if you had a front door key why not use it rather than jumping over back fences!

Personally I dont think it's right that someone says they'll look after your cat, and it turns out he doesnt get home till very late etc etc.

Not too sure I'd really want to go to the press - as I have to admit we dont get on with a few of our neighbours (due to other issues - mainly parking where police have been involved) and that would really put the cat amongst the pigeons - and just put us in the firing line, not the idiot owner. Like I say I did fax a complaint to the 'advice line' so would hope that they follow any procedures that should be in place to respond to a complaint within X days.

I dare say the idiot owner will be home probably this Saturday or Sunday - and we know he'll gues it's us that's reported him - as the last time there was lots of conversations between him and his neighbours pointing over to our house - I dont give a damn if he susses it's us - sometimes you just feel that a right good argument was done where you tell him what you really think of him - but knowing our luck we'd then get done for 'disturbing the peace' by the coppers - and nothing done to him about his behaviour with his cat!

I did leave a dish of food out last night (this was before I saw the bloke come home and let her stay indoors) I think I'll be leaving a dish of food out there till the idiot owner returns (and even then probably will leave it out - as when he spends time at his gf's the cat is kicked out and not fed, sometimes for nearly 2 days - which the Inspector did say he'd have a word with him about if he calls him - knowing what this idiot's like he just wont contact the RSPCA as we dont think he did the last time we reported him).

I just hope that she can get to the food before anything else .... this morning I checked our cctv logs (as we've a camera on our porch) and saw that a very hungry hedgehog ate the food ... was quite funny as another cat a few doors down, came along, quite clearly interested in the food, but he didnt try get the hedgehog outta the way, he just left - has probably had an encounter with a spikey hedgehog I'm guessing! 

I have to admit that it's already crossed our minds to 'cat nap' her and take her to a rehoming centre that we know of - and just say 'we found her wandering the streets' or if we didnt want to make it known that it was us, put her in one of our old cat carriers and leave her at their front door with a note - as she'd then end up with an owner that would care for her - the only problem would be if she was chipped ... she may find her way back to the horrible home.

[Dawn (DiddyDawn)]

Scatty, contact the RSPCA again, it's unlikely you will get the same  hole again.  Keep a log of the times the guy who is supposedly feeding the cat appears and demand something is done.  Tell them if they don't sort it, you will be approaching the newspapers.  It's a bit difficult if the RSPCA inspector has been told by some neighbours that the cat is being looked after, he's taken that at face value.  The problem lies with the idiot at the call centre, by rights he isn't there to argue the toss, he should be passing the info on so the RSPCA inspector can follow it up.  Good luck, if you get any problems, give me a shout and I'll see what I can do, xxx

[ccmacey]

BTW I dont think my guys advice would be any good  (sorry)

[ccmacey]

Yeah me too Mark, RSPCA? My 

Really if it were me I would take the cat in, I have done before with 4 cats. I have even had someone elses cat neutered, he stayed in our very small bathroom for a couple of nights although not really convinient.

What are you cats like with other cats? My cats fight with others but they were ok when I had two other cats in the house.

[Mark]

I am disgusted with the RSPCA (Nothing new then  ) they should be ensuring people follow the animal welfare act by providing the basic needs of animals - They are supposed to be the ones with powers - why don't they use them? 

Poor cat 

I would tell them you are going to speak to the local newspaper about their attitude.

[bunglycat]

Well, if it was me - i would definately feed  her and give her a drink -that way she will ,start to trust you and she won''t starve out there !
Also , have you got a shed door you could leave open with an old blanket or something in for her to sleep on .
Could you go round to this person who is supposed to be feeding her and offer to do it as he is out so long ?
I really couldn''t not feed her or give her a drink , she must be starving anfd frightened ( maybe if she got to trust you and you could eventually catch her - take her to a rescue and get her re-homed -she obviously has not got a good home there !!!) and then i would at least know  she has had food .
Poor little cat

[scattycat]

Yvonne, as much as I'd love to, we simply cant, and breaks my heart that we cant. She'll come close to me but we're very 'strange' to her and would probably scream the place down if we tried to catch her - we'd probably stress her out more if we tried to do that.

The bloke who's 'looking after her' is still not home, he left this morning at 9.50am - so she's gone without food/shelter for nearly 11 hours which in my opinion is wrong.

[Yvonne]

You must be really frantic - I know that I would really be concerned for the welfare of this cat.  Is there any way that you could accommodate and feed her in temporary housing i.e. kennel, shed or similar.  Sorry don't know what else to suggest but hopefully somebody will come forward with good ideas.

[scattycat]

I havent been on here for a while, but I'm hoping that you guys can give me some help - this is a long post!!!

On Thursday 16 May, we realised that the man who lives opposite us and has a cat had not been at home at all during this time, but that his cat was outside. He had clearly gone on holiday, leaving at 8.45am on Sunday 11 May and as he'd done exactly the same thing last year (went on holiday for 2 weeks leaving cat out) I called the RSPCA up to report him.

I got the most awkward of 'advisers' as all he kept saying was 'well if the cat's not indoors and doesnt have access to food and water, we cant do anything' - to him it's apparently ok for a cat to be left outdoors all the while as a cat can 'fend for itself and hunt for food' - I replied that one of our cats would be hunting for 'tins of cat food' as he's no hunter.

Anyway - after me basically arguing with this bloke he said he'd pass it onto the Inspector for our area. On Friday last week I got a phone call from the inspector who said that he'd come round,and had spoken to this chaps neighbours (one side of a terrace of 3 - the chap's in the middle). They told the Inspector that the other neighbour the other side of him, was feeding the cat and letting it in the house. I asked if anything would be left for the man, the inspector said no as he said he was happy that the cat was being fed and shelter being provided - I simply said 'well you can only go by what you've been told by someone that's not actually doing that for him'

Anyway - we've been keeping an eye out on this neighbour that's apparently feeding/sheltering the cat - Tuesday he wasnt home till 11.15pm - but by 10pm I was feeling so desperate for the cat that I went over and put some food near her front door. It was the first time that she'd come over to me (as normally she keeps her distance from us/our house as we have 3 cats) she WOLFED the food down as she was that hungry.

Angry that the cat was clearly not being looked after I called the RSPCA up, and sure I got the same bloke (due to his attitude and accent) - he was very unhelpful and said 'well the Inspector is happy theres nothing that can be done' - I said that the Inspector should be made aware that the bloke who is apparently looking after her is not being fed properly and that teh shelter is not being provided. He would not pass the information onto the Inspector, nor would he put a note through to the Inspector that I wanted to inform him of further information, but was told to 'monitor the situation for the next 3-4 days and let us know what happens' - what b****y good is that in 3-4 days I have information now!

AFter that phone call I burst into tears as it feels like no-one gives a damn about this poor cat that I faxed a complaint to the RSPCA in that i felt that the case was not being dealt with properly.

Anyway - the bloke who's 'looking after her' got home at 11.15pm on Tuesday, he got home at 9.30pm on Wednesday and tonight as I type this he is stilll not home - so how is that looking after a cat, feeding it properly and providing shelter?

Tonight we're really concerned for her - she nearly got hit by a car that came into the road tonight (as she must think it's her 'daddy'), we saw her trying to get into a house nearby as teh front door was open (reason for this is till January this year, the previous occupant let this cat spend time in his house, assume feed her, so she must be confused as to why she cant go in that house when the door is wide open now) - and then tonight when I opened our front door to call our cats in I see her sitting underneath our car, which is a first.

I had put a dish of food out the front (as one of our guys missed his tea, so left it out the front for him) and she came over sniffed it, but seemed too 'edgy' to eat and went off back under the car. But the thing that we're more concerned about is that she was trying to get into our house - she just wants to be indoors, but cant be. If we had no cats, I dare say she would be sitting in our living room, but we have to think of our 3 cats welfare too as it'd probably freak them out - unfortunately we dont live in a large enough house that has a room that we could put her in overnight.

I really feel like ringing the RSPCA up again, but I jsut know I'll get the same bloke, with the same attitude that its fine to go on a 2 week holiday, leave your cat out all the while and hope that the neighbour that says will feed / let cat in the house will do.

What would you guys do???