Emergancy Help Needed!

[Millys Mum]

Things just aren't clearly marked. I think anything with phenols in should have a warning on but the regulators aren't bothered about animals 

Their products are designed for human use tho so not really their fault that the world has muppets in it who prefer to self medicate rather than use veterinary brands. 

Twas a response to marks wish for better labelling CP.

[Corporal Smokey]

T.C.P is safe for Cats aslong as it's weakened with water.
I checked with VETs aswell as my mother who used to be a Vet(she gave it up to work in care for disabled children)

Their products are designed for human use tho so not really their fault that the world has muppets in it who prefer to self medicate rather than use veterinary brands. 

I'm not completely sure that Leedsboi's advice from two different vets makes him a "muppet"

How is she today hun?

[Millys Mum]

Things just aren't clearly marked. I think anything with phenols in should have a warning on but the regulators aren't bothered about animals 

Their products are designed for human use tho so not really their fault that the world has muppets in it who prefer to self medicate rather than use veterinary brands. 

When you phone the vets all you speak to is a receptionist, many of these are not informed. At one time VNs covered reception duties but this happens less now as they concentrate on the nursing side fo things.

Thats who I phoned and the Vets said T.C.P is made weak enough is fine to use on cat scratches n bites.

Reading this makes me wonder if they meant for you if you had a scratch 

E45 is an emollient cream and will do sod all for infection. Sudocrem has zinc in it and dries out nappy rash and bed sores, again not any use.

[Dawn (DiddyDawn)]

I would bathe the wounds in cooled boiled water with a little salt and get her to the vets.  Cat bites are extremely painful and the only way to treat is with antibiotics.  I would try and keep her separate from the others and also get her in to be spayed asap, my heads not working properly so sorry not read all the other posts but good luck with her and I hope she's ok 

[Mark]

To be fair the cat is being taken to the vet and I'm sure it was done with the best intentions.

Things just aren't clearly marked. I think anything with phenols in should have a warning on but the regulators aren't bothered about animals 

There is a case on Fab where a lady killed her cat because she wanted to keep her kitchen sterile for her cat. As phenols aren't processed, it is a cumulative poisoning andd her cat died from ingesting it over time when grooming

Permethrin at the top of the list is dog flea treament  http://www.fabcats.org/owners/poisons/common_poisons.html

[barney]

Hello everyone. 

It has saddened me that I have had to come to the forum under these circumstances but I feel I have no other choice anymore.
I have a 3 cats in total, Simba who is a 3 year old Male and quite large, Gizmo who is a 1 1/2  year old Male and medium size and Holly my 11 Month old Small Female.

Now Holly came in as a stray just before Xmas last year, And all was fine, Simba was abit off for a couple of weeks but he adjusted and he did chase her afew times but never as bad as it's gotten lately, He did calm off for a long time til now.....

Over the last 3 weeks he has started getting quite aggressive with her, Not all the time but he will suddenly attack her for no reason, Last night alone he went for her 4 times and even though he gets told off and a light tap he still carried on shortly after.

Upon inspection this morning both me and my partner noticed Holly had slight swelling on the sides of her face aswell as some open wounds nothing too major but still enough to weep, I have applied some weakened T.C.P to the wounds to stop infection but I am now worried of the attacks.

I am going to phone the Vets in the morning and get Holly booked in for a check up on the wounds aswell just to be on the safe side.

Simba is normally a friendly cat who likes attention, He's always been abit of a macho cat who likes to be Big Boss but he's never been as bad as this and also he never goes for the younger Male Gizmo.

Holly is a very friendly Cat she can be abit timid but all in all she's very loving and affectionate.

There all indoor cats but they have more then enough room.

Simba and Gizmo have both been spayed and Holly is just waiting for an appointment to get her done too.

Hope someone can help.
If you need anymore advice please ask and I will do my VERY best to give exact answers.

Sorry but this sounds like the type of question you get on a Yahoo forum. Your cat obviously needs veterinary attention so as a responsible pet owner that is what you do. What you don't do is start slapping on creams and potions that you or others may think is suitable. There was an article I read in the telegraph yesterday on the subject of pet poisoning and of people administering their own medications like ibrufin and aspirin because they think it will save on veterinary costs. Here's a quote from the article.


A total of 17,000 cases of poisoned cats and dogs were reported last year – up 20 per cent on the previous 12 months. The figures show there has been a steep rise in the number of dogs ingesting painkillers such as ibuprofen (22 per cent), paracetamol (20 per cent) and aspirin (24 per cent). Vets believe the animals sometimes find the drugs lying around the house, but that in many cases, they are deliberately given the pills by their owners when they are injured, as it is cheaper than taking them to a vet.

There was a similar increase in the number of dogs treated after eating oral contraceptive tablets – the sixth most common cause of canine poisoning. Most of the cases reported to the VPIS related to dogs, with cats second.

The most common cases of poisoning among cats involve animals that are treated using a type of flea treatment meant for dogs.


 

[Mark]

You can get Johnsons wound powder in pet shops which is safe. There are a lot of phenols in TCP. I'm sure a tiny amount wouldn't do any harm but I wouldn't use it on a regular basis. I always like to check things as a lot of vets are ill informed about some things.

[Desley (booktigger)]

I wouldnt use Sudocrem on a cat either, I always have Hibiscrub in. You have to be careful about putting creams on, partly cos the cat will just lick them off, which could make them ill, and partly cos it will affect the healing rate, they dont need to have cuts covered (as I suspect, neither do we)

[Rosella moggy]

Please read the link that I posted. It gives all the info you need about cat bites

[Bazsmum]

I really would not use freely creams that are meant for humans....although Im not sure if those would be harmful I know I would not use them on any of mine....seriously save your money and use salt water....If the wound looks infected you will have to get an anti biotic jab anyway....

[Rosella moggy]

Simply use a warm very diluted saline solution.

[Leedsboi86]

Sudocrem seems pretty good it's the white cream stuff
Also what about E45 I was told that works too

[Bazsmum]

I would really just use a saline solution to be on the safe side...... TCP really no good!!! 

[Leedsboi86]

Thats who I phoned and the Vets said T.C.P is made weak enough is fine to use on cat scratches n bites. Wonder why there telling me it's fine >.<
My partner has just gone to shop for some sudocrem anyway I know thats deff safe also vasaline or how ever ya spell it.

[Rosella moggy]

This is rather worrying. It seems TCP is not safe for cats. I wouldn't want others reading this thread to think otherwise.  If anyone is tempted to use TCP on their cat, please ring your vet first.

http://www.downlandvets.co.uk/Pages/Clinical/Pages/CBAbscess.html

[Tinamary]

I think that speying will help emensly but you could also try swapping their blankets about and rubbing the smell from one to the other.
There is a feramone that can be used to calm cats and you can buy it as a plug in aparently.

[Leedsboi86]

T.C.P is safe for Cats aslong as it's weakened with water.
I checked with VETs aswell as my mother who used to be a Vet(she gave it up to work in care for disabled children)

They also said it's best thing to use and it seems to have helped with swelling as she seems better today and her cuts are lookin very clean and clear.
Like I said just waiting for the Vets to get an opening for her op

[Millys Mum]

TCP shouldnt be used on cats, many things safe for children are toxic for cats so not a rule to rely on 

Spaying probably will help, some just dont like others that are entire. Milly goes absolutely mental at entire toms but tolerates strange neutered ones 

Do they have plenty of everything, litter trays, food, beds, high perches etc

In the meantime you could try feliway plug ins

[Leedsboi86]

Hey!
Thats exactly what I'm try to do.
I happen to know a top notch vets that are the best around for before and after care and never had a single problem with this kinda op so I went her to go there.
My 2 males went there and my mums 3 cats went there problem is it can take 2 weeks for an appointment but I know she will be in safe hands.

[Desley (booktigger)]

I would get Holly booked in asap, not only should it help with the aggression, but it is better for her health. Good luck

[dabs]

She's more than likely due to call, hence the agression. Keep her in and separate from the others and do not let her out.

[Leedsboi86]

Nope shes never had any kittens.

[ccmacey]

I think it depends on the cat. I have 3 males and only one of them acted like this while my kitten was in season. The other 2 didnt bother. This cat had also been neutered for over a year at the time.

Has she had kittens before?

[Leedsboi86]

Hello there.

TCP is a clear liquid even in water but it smells very strong.
It's used on scraps on little children cause it doesn't hurt when puttin in on cuts.

At night I can keep holly in the bedroom with me and my partner and give the other 2 the run of the house other then that I can't think of anything to do during day but it's mainly at night the attacks happen.

As for season it could be but she has had a season before where she tried to get Simba to pardon the line but give her one lol.
He wasn't like this then, I'm just waiting for a appointment at vets to get her done though.

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

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Two comments really and sure you will get loads of others tomorrow. 

First TCP, does it go cloudy in water? If it does , do not use on Holly cos it may cause her more problems. The best thing to used is boiled water cooled with a bit of saut in it until you see the vets.

Second  is that as Holly is not spayed then this is likely to be the problem with the other cat as he knows she is coming into heat. I would think that once she is spayed , things should start to calm down.

Is it posible to keep the two seperated until after she has been spayed and recovered?

[Leedsboi86]

Hello everyone. 

It has saddened me that I have had to come to the forum under these circumstances but I feel I have no other choice anymore.
I have a 3 cats in total, Simba who is a 3 year old Male and quite large, Gizmo who is a 1 1/2  year old Male and medium size and Holly my 11 Month old Small Female.

Now Holly came in as a stray just before Xmas last year, And all was fine, Simba was abit off for a couple of weeks but he adjusted and he did chase her afew times but never as bad as it's gotten lately, He did calm off for a long time til now.....

Over the last 3 weeks he has started getting quite aggressive with her, Not all the time but he will suddenly attack her for no reason, Last night alone he went for her 4 times and even though he gets told off and a light tap he still carried on shortly after.

Upon inspection this morning both me and my partner noticed Holly had slight swelling on the sides of her face aswell as some open wounds nothing too major but still enough to weep, I have applied some weakened T.C.P to the wounds to stop infection but I am now worried of the attacks.

I am going to phone the Vets in the morning and get Holly booked in for a check up on the wounds aswell just to be on the safe side.

Simba is normally a friendly cat who likes attention, He's always been abit of a macho cat who likes to be Big Boss but he's never been as bad as this and also he never goes for the younger Male Gizmo.

Holly is a very friendly Cat she can be abit timid but all in all she's very loving and affectionate.

There all indoor cats but they have more then enough room.

Simba and Gizmo have both been spayed and Holly is just waiting for an appointment to get her done too.

Hope someone can help.
If you need anymore advice please ask and I will do my VERY best to give exact answers.