Phoebe eye and skin, can some one give me advise?

[Maddiesmum]

Hope she continues to take the tablets and that she is soon better 

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

If the tooth is a top one then then the root will go very near the eye and Kocka had a very swollen face and was iin terrible pain very quickly and that was a problem with her teeth and once sorted the eye and face were back to normal.

At the begininng the vet thought it maybe something much more serious but it wasnt , thank goodness.

I know how you mean and everything always happens at once 

[Desley (booktigger)]

i dont know how it works, I just remember MM saying her cat had eye issues when his tooth was playing up, so maybe there is some connection? Never heard of those tabs, but as long as she is taking them!! Pebbles had to have very strong Antirobe for her leg. Fingers crossed you can get everything sorted, both for you and the cats.

[pappilon]

Desley, i am not really sure if the infection caused the eye problem or the allergy causing all this?
The vet said the chin infection which is deep is not up to the fractured jaws, but the tooth has a hole in it and that causes stress and pain so the scratching could be because of stress, but then since she came to me in June she's been doing this and in August when my old vet removed the wires he didnt say anything aboud the bad tooth, so am not sure what is causing the sore eye and face and scratching but atleast once the infection gone and bad tooth sorted then the results will be here and then they might get closer to find out. I just cant believe every thing happening at the same time, the girl who workes with me is going back to her country in two weeks for six months so it makes it difficult to get time off work so i need to sort out everything in next two weeks and my own hospital appointment which i have been waiting for months came and its for end of the month

The tablets they gave for Phoebe to take for 2 weeks is, Ronaxon 20mg , two tobe taken once a day which she takes it i her food with no problem, at least i dont have to stress about this

[Desley (booktigger)]

Aww, the poor baby - I wonder if the two are connected, I know MM said that her cat gets a gunky eye when his teeth are bothering him. It might take a while to deal with a deep rooted infection, that was one of Pebbles leg issues. What tabs have they given you?

[pappilon]

Hi Pav, thanks for the update.  I hope you have more success with the tests than I did as knowing what you are dealing with is half the battle.  That said if it doesnt yield the right results Id speak to the vet about trying to move to the sensitive skin/prescription diet as it may improve things anyway.

Sorry to hear Pheobe has a problem with her jaw, poor girl.  Big hugs   Linda, they are going to change her diet if all the results are negative , because then it could be food allergy . I even asked them if they want to change it to prescription diet before the result but they said since sh has to take antibiotics for 2 weeks in her food , she might refuse to take the new food and also the vet wants to see the effect of antibiotics and if the scratching gets better once the infection gone and tooth extracted, i think it seems related , but atleast after the steroid injection her sore eye and around the eye seems better.

[blackcat]

yeah, they have a gift for doing that to us don't they 

[pappilon]

Sorry b/c my mistake the infection is in her chin not jaws.                                                                                                     

 I know what you mean by complicated cats            when i saw Phoebe i didnt know about her jaws, but it was on the rescue web site and she was described as aggressive by her owners, and they had so many b/w and black cats , some really young and described as friendly and lap cats, so i thought what is her chance of getting a home soon?

I had to foster her first for few weeks , thats how they wanted it to make sure i can handel her! and thats when i realized she has problem rubbing her face and broken jaws, but to be honest the moment i saw her i knew she is going to live with us .



   

[Linda (Bengalbabe)]

Hi Pav, thanks for the update.  I hope you have more success with the tests than I did as knowing what you are dealing with is half the battle.  That said if it doesnt yield the right results Id speak to the vet about trying to move to the sensitive skin/prescription diet as it may improve things anyway.

Sorry to hear Pheobe has a problem with her jaw, poor girl.  Big hugs   

If you have any questions or just want to chat, please drop me a PM x

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

I am sorry that there is a jaw problem too but it does sound that this vet knows what he is talking about and I reckon they will give her the best care as soon as it is possible to treat her.

Hopefully the antibiotics will get rid of the infection but suspect she will need more than one course.

I hope the test results show something that they can treat so they do not need to do more tests on little Phoebe.

I wish I could help more cos you and your cats are going through such a rough time right now 

[blackcat]

Well that complicates the scene a bit doesn't it!! If she had a broken jaw that remains unhealed that alone could cause her to be constantly rubbing her face, in turn leading to the other symptoms ... you do seem to have a gift for chooseing complicated cats Pav!!! Well good luck with the results and perhaps they can consider this further complication when you go in next time ... (sigh)

[pappilon]

Hi Linda,thanks. Yes i was going to do the update last night when i came back with her but she was still under sedation and i had toput blankets all over the flat for her to be able to walk, the floor is slippery and she couldnt stand and kept falling , and then Boy was sick again so i didnt get the chance .

They did the flea allergy and ringworm  test and is negative but they also did skin scrape and axi allergy screen?  i have to wait for results,can take up to ten days.
I was told if every thing is negative, then there are also food allergy and windborn allergy and few more , but they want to wait and see.

I also asked them while she is under sedative if they can take x-ray from her jaws, since she came to me with broken jaws and the rescue didnt realise it till i took her back and told them she kept rubbing her face really hard and they said when she was collected from her privious owner she struggled and cut her mouth so she might have fractured her jaws then they put the wired and i transfered her to my vet and after six weeks they removed the wires and said it hasnt healed and they put stiches on which i was told it breaks by it self . cut the story short she still rbbing her face and when i told my old vet he said we can try again and put the wires back but some times in just doesnt heal. so i was told on friday she has an infection in her jaws and its deep and also she has a bad tooth but they didnt want to put her under GA after the diazepam and more sedative, so they gave me antibiotics for 2 weeks to give her and then once the results are back they will see if they need to remove the tooth ?
Phobe was given steroid injection for her sore eye , since they think its all due to some kind of allergy , for now i just have to wait till the results come back.
 

[Linda (Bengalbabe)]

Hi Pav, any update on Pheobe?

[Gill (sneakiefeline)]

Oh dear Pav poor you, your cats are going thro a bad time.

I do hope little phoebe can be helped by a kind vet cos she sounds even worse than Sasa to get to the vets. So sad cos I have met two really kond vets here who have handled Sasa so well, the last one got bitten too cos she was in pain.

I hope that maybe some antibiotics or something will help Phoebe 

[pappilon]

Thankyou so much , Linda.

Then i will ask the vet to day to give me some sedative , so i can take her in as soon as possible. Thankyou.

[Linda (Bengalbabe)]

Hi Pappilion,

Pheobes 'skin condition' sounds familiar to me.

I  brought Stitch home from the CPL over 2 years ago now.  She was 2 years old at the time and had a very sore face.  I was advised at the time that Stitch had been treated for a bad case of fleas whilst in the CPL and that so long as I applied her Frontline every month this should subside and not reoccur i.e. vet had diagnosed a flea allergy.

We had Stitch for only a couple of weeks when it became apparent she was getting worse.  She had scratched her face so bad it was bleeding and interestingly she also had a sore eye.  We took her into the vet who said she def had some form of allergy and that the sore eye was actually as a result of her scratching it!  Anyway she was given a dose of steroids and some antibiotics to make sure she did not end up with an infection (this is the danger of the skin being scratched until it bleeds) and we were told to monitor and see how it went. 

To cut a long story short things did not improve, and Stitch after 12 months on steroids ended up very overweight and depressed.  We arranged for blood tests etc but no specific allergys showed up.  At a loss the vet explained to me that there are 2 main causes of allergy in cats - one being food, the other being the environment (could be anything from a specific carpet in my house to a plant or the grass outside).  As we were desperate to improve her condition and reduce the steroids we moved Stitch on to prescription diet.  This definitely had some success (not total) and allowed us to reduce the steroid use to around every 3 months which helped lots.  We also found that use of an external steroid cream on the areas affected worked pretty well in treating any little outbreaks she had.  Fingers crossed Stitch has not had any steroids injected for 6mths now and she is a much happier cat.

Im not diagnosing your cat of course, just that the symptoms sounded familiar and the above information may help you.  She does need to see a vet for proper diagnosis and treatment.  Good luck and please keep us posted.

[Millys Mum]

Its possible an infection is brewing so the sooner its treated the better   

[pappilon]

I treat them both, Boy and Phoebe with stronghold regularly, thats why i know its not fleas.

I have to see if they agree tomorrow to give me sedative in order for me to be able to take her and ask if they willing to see her ?

This is the place which Boy attacked a vet and he is not a difficult cat to handel,and no one in there was really willing to get close to him after,so with Phoebe i am not sure!

I was hoping its something i can do at home for her eye?

[Millys Mum]

When you say you have checked for fleas was it just visual or has she been recently treated? I would definateley spray the house with something like Indorex and treat the cats with Frontline or similar and see if that helps.

As for the eye, if its pink and swollen it needs treatment. Your new vets should be fine to handle her, just warn them so they know what they are dealing with!

[pappilon]

Phoebe,started having problem on her face the moment i let her out, she had all pink and red a bit sore during the warm weather but it used to disappear and back again, she also scratch her sel so violently, i use this word because never seen a cat going so hard and some times i have to start calling her name loud for her to stop because i think she might hurt herself! Yes i did tell my vet about this when she was being treated for broken jaws, and he said he thinks its allergy but cant say to what? So he gave her steroid injection and that was in september.
I also thought because she was kept indoor for 10 years, maybe she is sensitive to sun and all the flowers and everything  out there!?
Since the weather got cooler she doesnt get the pink marks on her face, but still scratch her self and she doesnt have fleas, i have checked.few days a go she was next to me and i started scratching her head and noticed some parts its rough, i dont know how to explain but i scratched and few hair comes out and  in the root of this few her is like scab? Or may be is not scab its just a tiny hard dot, i kept them and going to show to Caroline tomorrow when taking Boy , but she has a really sore eye too, yesterday it was pink and today when she was on her back looking up i could see around and inside the eye lid is pink and sore, i dont know if these two has anything to do with each other or not, i made tea to wash her eye but no way , for those who dont know about her when ever i have to take her to vet, i need to give her 2 tablet to sedate her in the morning to be able to pick her up and in the vet they wear those long gloves and put her in crash cage , she can be very difficult to handel, thats why i am taking those sample to Caroline but not sure what to do with the eye? Please if any one has any idea, its just so stressfull for me and her if we have to make a trip to the vet and now i dont have my old vet, i dont know where to take her that can handell her? So i thought i ask if any one had similar situation, may be its something she eats that cause this?