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Title: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Mark on October 17, 2007, 18:07:55 PM
This idiot has a petition going and wants people to be fined if their cats poo in other gardens. He also wants cats to be kept on leashes  :evillaugh:

http://www.shropshirestar.com/2007/06/petition-to-stop-cats-fouling/
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: blackcat on October 17, 2007, 18:34:42 PM
hope he has the money to pay for DNA testing of the evidence :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: puddypaws on October 17, 2007, 18:38:03 PM
We'd better start pracising fence climbing while armed with pooper scoopers.  Is the man completely mad  :doh:
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on October 17, 2007, 18:42:27 PM
Idiot must be a dog owner, hope he carrys his pooper scooper around with him!

Apologies to all cat owners who have dogs on here  ;D
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: blackcat on October 17, 2007, 18:43:51 PM
no, Gill, much worse than a dog owner - a keen gardener - bet he doesn't wear gloves. Hope he realises the number of nasties you can pick up by rootling around gloveless in well-nourished soil  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Angiew on October 17, 2007, 18:44:35 PM
Didn't know my neighbour was intelligent enough to use a computer :rofl: :rofl:  ( :-[)
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Queen-Penguin on October 17, 2007, 18:46:25 PM
How funny!! Where else are cats supposed to poo when outside?!?! I'll give him a surprise and go and poo in his garden  :rofl:
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: clarenmax on October 17, 2007, 20:12:17 PM
The guy is clearly barking  :Crazy:
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: sixfurballs on October 17, 2007, 21:29:37 PM
I'm not a dog owner but am a keen gardener and just always wear gloves. A cat has to do what a cat has to do!
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: LeighK on October 17, 2007, 21:48:46 PM
I'd like to start a Petition to to stop people from starting petitions to stop cats fouling gardens  ;D

Cheers

Leigh
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on October 17, 2007, 21:52:19 PM
How ridiculas.
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Mark on October 17, 2007, 22:12:21 PM
I added a comment on their that the mods probably won't let through

It said something along the lines of

Sue (No. 24)
Your husband is probably as intelligent as you. There are plenty or real issues in this world to deal with. Get a life!
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Sarah (seldom_use) on October 17, 2007, 22:42:28 PM
:Crazy: i had a good old laugh at him via comment too, again, doubt it will get posted :rofl:

how silly are some people :doh:
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on October 17, 2007, 23:56:10 PM
Well I'm going to be the odd one out here.

Although I don't agree with the petition as I think that's a step too far, I wouldn't describe him as an idiot and I don't think any cat owner should dismiss people like that as idiots.  It is very annoying for people who don't have pets to have to put up with cat poo in their garden.  It's not unreasonable to want to enjoy your own garden without having to go around getting rid of cat poo from the neighbour's cats every day.  I have a friend whose dog died a few months ago and now all the local cats poo in her garden.  She has a 3 year old son and is worried about him playing in his own garden because of it.   I do think cat owners should do everything they can to get their cats to go to the toilet in their own gardens.  I know it's not possible to control everything they get up to when out of sight, but we should at least try.   There are enough anti cat people in the world without cat owners antagonising them.

Sermon over  ;)
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on October 18, 2007, 00:05:04 AM
All I can say is hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how do you get your cat to go in your garden as opposed to anyone elses with out shutting them in?

I useed to watch Kocka punish my horrible neighbours in London.

They used to scare her and one day they sneaked into my garden and depositted some cats poo in a kitchen towel on her bed. She used to run into the house if she heard them come out after that.

There were so many cats in the area which roamed all the gardens it most likely wasnt Kocka.

However I watched her one day not long after in broad daylight sneak into their garden,,,,,,,,,,,well tip of weeds 3ft high and next door but one..............and she stopped at the boundary looked around, and then went and did her business in their garden. She then rushed back into her own garden and sat in the middle watching.

It was so very funny and she was just so smart and such a character.

I think anyone who starts a petiton like this is a total idiot and deserves all the comments that have been made, sorry but thats my opinion.

Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on October 18, 2007, 00:11:34 AM
All I can say is hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how do you get your cat to go in your garden as opposed to anyone elses with out shutting them in?

As someone with indoor cats, I'm not the best person to answer that!  Create a sand/soil pit in your own garden?   I'm not saying that it can be guaranteed cats will toilet in their own garden.  Just that perhaps cat owners should try.  I have seen articles in cat mags about creating cat friendly gardens including toilet areas. 



Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: carl (billy and baggys dad) on October 18, 2007, 06:57:45 AM
Has he got nowt else to moan about? Before moaning about stuff like this, why not tackle things like antisocial kids, stuff that really makes a difference? I'm guessing that if he did, he'd have to grow a pair. Moaning old sod  >:(
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Hippykitty on October 18, 2007, 08:30:13 AM
I grew some great tomatoes on a patch my cats use to poo in - a great crop.
Before the student invasion, I had an old, cat-tolerant neighbour who was a keen gardener, but who nevertheless tolerated my cats pooing in his rose beds. He had beautiful rose bushes!
As for children: the dangers of cat feaces is over-rated. Conditions like toxiplasmosis are best caught when in childhood, as it confers lifelong immunity, thereby preventing a woman catching it in the first months of pregnancy (she had it as a child, so it won't affect her unborn).

This guy is obviously bonkers.
I also dislike bird fanciers who blame cats for the decrease in song birds. Blame pesticides, which poison their natural food; and changes to habitats; or magpies. Bird catching is a specialised skill for cats; some are very good at it, but the majority stick to rodents. Cats have to knock a bird out of the air as it takes off - not easy.

As with many of the comments added to the article: what next? Banning birds from pooing on washing? Or slugs from eating his plants?
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Mark on October 18, 2007, 08:37:59 AM
All I can say is hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how do you get your cat to go in your garden as opposed to anyone elses with out shutting them in?

As someone with indoor cats, I'm not the best person to answer that!  Create a sand/soil pit in your own garden?   I'm not saying that it can be guaranteed cats will toilet in their own garden.  Just that perhaps cat owners should try.  I have seen articles in cat mags about creating cat friendly gardens including toilet areas. 


I agree people should try to encourage their cats to toilet in their litter trays or own garden but the point is, its nature. Cats will try to mark what they see as their own territory which has nothing to do with human boundaries like fences, walls etc, Its like starting a petition to stop overnight frost as it might kill off young plants  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Ela on October 18, 2007, 09:10:54 AM
Quote
He also wants cats to be kept on leashes 


To save the birds someone thinks, but who saves the worms that the birds eat?
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Sarah (seldom_use) on October 18, 2007, 09:13:39 AM
mark both our comments have been added :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Mark on October 18, 2007, 09:15:51 AM
Great Sarah  :evillaugh:

I think the other one is "Our Carl's"  :evillaugh:

Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Sarah (seldom_use) on October 18, 2007, 09:27:05 AM
just read carls too :rofl:
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: LeighK on October 18, 2007, 09:37:15 AM
Hi folks,

Reminds me of some years ago when I lived in a house with a small garden and had two outdoor cats. I had the misfortune to have an obnoxious Spanish woman for a neighbour whose attitude towards animals was best summed up when she once told me "animals are far less important that humans" (cue for blood-boiling outrage outburst from me) , or maybe I should say her comments were "like a red rag to bull" as that might be more ethnically appropriate!  ;D.

She "cat-proofed" her garden by putting up 8 foot high wood fences and topping them with wire in an effort to stop my cats "pooping" in her garden   :Crazy: and it provided a constant source of amusement watching my two nimbly hopping, skipping and jumping their way around the obstacles like a couple of highly trained Royal Marine Commandos, jump down for a quick "poop" and then carry on their patrols  ;D. I've spent many a happy few minutes watching them defeat her defenses with consumate ease, oh happy days  ;D . I think that they never "pooped" anywhere else, I think that they knew where they weren't welcome and did it out of pure spite as they never pooped in any other of my neighbours' gardens, I love the cat sense of humour  ;D

Cheers

Leigh
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Dawn F on October 18, 2007, 09:43:32 AM
on the other side of the coin it is a fantastic way of bring neighbours around to the cat proofing project you had in mind, it was the excuse we used with our neighbour, oh but you have such a lovely garden, and he was instantly supportive of the new fence topped off with prison style wiring!!
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on October 18, 2007, 10:06:47 AM
Oh Dawn that made me laugh cos I am just waiting for my nasty neighbour to mention cats in his garden, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee, the fence is nearly ready to go up!

My cats are too scared to go in his garden but I am happy for them to take the blame  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: chrisleitz on October 18, 2007, 11:05:30 AM
I left a comment too and suggested he should get a cat  :sneaky:
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Dawn F on October 18, 2007, 11:10:33 AM
yes Gill it was something like "well the thing is we want to change the fence and add wire to the top to stop the cats getting out"
"you can't keep cats in"
"well we want to try after Algie getting killed"
"you can't keep cats in, I've seen them run up 10 ft walls"
"well I do know people who have"
"it won't work"
"and anyway you have such a lovely garden its not really fair on you, I know you have problems with other cats soiling in the garden I don't want to add to the problem"
"its a good idea"
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: LeighK on October 18, 2007, 12:58:52 PM
Here's my posting, doubt if they'll publish it though, original done in ASCII art ;D

(http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ASCII-kitten_gun.jpg)

Cheers

Leigh

PS. If anyone wants the program, it's free and you can get it here : http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=133786&package_id=146945&release_id=546833 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=133786&package_id=146945&release_id=546833)

           
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Stuart on October 18, 2007, 13:19:59 PM
Here's my posting, doubt if they'll publish it though, original done in ASCII art ;D

PS. If anyone wants the program, it's free and you can get it here : http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=133786&package_id=146945&release_id=546833 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=133786&package_id=146945&release_id=546833)

           

Cool Prog Leigh, Thanks..

hhmmmmmm, They never posted my Comment :( Maybe the txt was a bit too rich for their liking :evillaugh:

Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: LeighK on October 18, 2007, 13:24:58 PM
Hi Stuart,

I thought it a way around only being able to post text but I doubt if they'll post it  :evillaugh:

I did one of Alfie for fun.

(http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/alfie_ASCII.jpg)

Cheers

Leigh
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: ccmacey on October 18, 2007, 13:26:37 PM
I wouldnt like another cat pooing in my garden, but this is going too far. Just people with nothing to do.

You dont see a cat stood in the middle of the street having a crap do you, would they rather this? How are they going to know who owns the cat?
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Mojo on October 18, 2007, 13:27:37 PM
Hmmm this apaears to be my local paper...... I work in Telford  :tired:
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on October 18, 2007, 13:28:50 PM
I've had a post to.


I have dogs run on my garden at the front and leave crap, these dogs are with their owners,on a flippin lead and they allow it crap.


If I see who does it I will scoop it up on a shovel and take it round to them.
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Stuart on October 18, 2007, 13:48:35 PM
Yeah Leigh that Prog iz pretty Cool, Have been experimenting myself ;)

Have reposted a new comment, but refrained from being too personal this time...I think  :evillaugh:
I didn't think they would block a comment like (this guy's a Tin Short of a six pack) :rofl:

Pure Ridiculousness !!
P.S. have you noticed most of the people for said petition, have very
poor Grammar & Spelling LOL


P.S. I loved the guy who was very apologetic, and said He'd have a word with His Cat as soon as He got home :evillaugh: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on October 18, 2007, 13:57:55 PM
I liked that comment too stuart.

Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Bazsmum on October 18, 2007, 14:06:16 PM
Signed  ;)

I am fed up with cats in my garden...all day every day  :mad2: they even attack my dog.... :no no:














...but then my dog is used to them as they are all my cats  :evillaugh:  :P  ;)
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: LeighK on October 18, 2007, 14:11:17 PM
 :rofl: Stuart,

Hear here!, their there!, it must be bacause cat lovers have to spell complex words like ailurophile  ;D

Just as well I didn't send them this one  ;D

(http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ASCII-Cat2.jpg)

Cheers

Leigh
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Beanie on October 18, 2007, 14:15:13 PM
What a prick!

I pity the wildlife as well who cannot read Do not poo in my gardensigns. I bet he is a real barrel of laughs down at his local. Still he is described as a heating engineer or similar so the cat and animals loving people who live in his area can make a point of finding another one if they so wish.
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on October 18, 2007, 14:43:50 PM
:rofl: Stuart,

Hear here!, their there!, it must be bacause cat lovers have to spell complex words like ailurophile  ;D

Just as well I didn't send them this one  ;D

(http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ASCII-Cat2.jpg)

Cheers

Leigh



 :rofl: :rofl: LOVE it.

What planet is this guy on???? - What happen to all the nappies his son produced EH.  On the ever growing nappy landfill.
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: LeighK on October 18, 2007, 15:32:20 PM
I found quite an appropriate quote but I don't suppose that they'll print it either  ;D

“Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer.”

- Bruce Graham

Cheers

Leigh
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on October 18, 2007, 15:33:58 PM
Love that  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: clarenmax on October 18, 2007, 15:37:13 PM
 :rofl: Excellent  :rofl:
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Team Svartalfheims on October 18, 2007, 15:38:11 PM
I think it's very sad he's started up a petition! Why not just throw water at the cats when he sees them come into his garden, the cats will most likely soon get the message and stop going in.
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Team Svartalfheims on October 18, 2007, 15:38:35 PM
Lol I like that quote  ;D
Title: Re: Petition to stop cats fouling gardens
Post by: Kally on October 19, 2007, 01:02:52 AM
i think that petition is ridiculous i mean ive got a cat that we took in from outside and weve only just got her to use the litter tray well only if she is really desperate but most of the time if you dont want to let her out and she needs the toilet she head butts any door she can find so let me way up the options let my cat poo outside or let her head butt the door so much that she could cause harm to herself no contest id rather let her go outside