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Title: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 14:01:37 PM
hiya
I was given pedigree papers when i got my kitten with all her family history on it but there is no reg number for my kitten , do i have to register her or should the previous owner of done it ?
she is my first pedigree kitten so im finding it all hard to understand can someone exsplain please

thanks lisa .
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Kucinta on June 05, 2009, 14:12:58 PM

I have two Singapuras, and my breeder had registered them (on the inactive register), she held onto the slips until  I sent her proof that the boys had been neutered and then sent them on to me.

As I wanted the boys for pets/companion animals, not for showing, I never got round to sending the slips off to have them registered in my name, which is what I think I was supposed to do.






Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 14:16:34 PM
 oh right , im really confused by it all lol , im just keeping her as a family petr not to show or breed  :)
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Dawn F on June 05, 2009, 14:27:45 PM
the breeder should have registered already and when you take the cat over you contact gccf to change to the ownership details - its a pink slip I think its about £8 to change
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 14:33:41 PM
 has anyone got a link or contact details for gccf please  :Luv:
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Dawn F on June 05, 2009, 14:45:28 PM
think its just

gccfcats.org
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Yvonne on June 05, 2009, 14:46:31 PM
This might be it

http://www.gccfcats.org/
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 14:48:20 PM
 yes thankyou have found it , it costs 10 pound to change ownership details , just got to work out how you do it now :)
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Dawn F on June 05, 2009, 14:52:01 PM
I think you have to have the pink slip from the breeder to send off???  its been a few years since I did it but I'm pretty sure that is what I did
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 14:53:57 PM
 hiya
ok thankyou i will ask her for it  :Luv:
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 15:06:28 PM
 just looked at the pedigree papers again and the fathers registered but the mother isnt , does this affect my kitty ????
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Dawn F on June 05, 2009, 15:07:14 PM
I think that means that babies can't be registered
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 15:08:13 PM
 oh right ok  :(
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Dawn F on June 05, 2009, 15:10:53 PM
what breed is the cat?
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 15:12:13 PM
 chocolate colour point
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Dawn F on June 05, 2009, 15:13:25 PM
no the breed - I'm only wondering because if it was something new to showing I think there might be exceptions
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: sheryl on June 05, 2009, 15:16:43 PM
Both Mum and Dad cat have to be registered for you to register your kitten, for kittens that are eligable for registration the breeder has to register the whole litter and then gets paperwork back for each kitten, when sold they pass a pink slip for GCCF (its Blue for Tica) to the new owner so that ownership and registration can be transferred.  You should have paid less for your kitten in the circumstances.

Your little one is beautiful  :Luv2:  :Luv2:  :Luv2:
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: sheryl on June 05, 2009, 15:17:55 PM
Its a little Raggie Dawn
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Dawn F on June 05, 2009, 15:19:34 PM
aah - well then what Sheryl said!!!  I hope you did get a discount Lisa
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 15:21:16 PM
 yes its a raggie dawn , i didnt pay for her as she was ill , had the  squits but is getting better now , she was been given anti b's for too long by the previous owners :(
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Dawn F on June 05, 2009, 15:22:30 PM
sounds like a breeder to avoid in the future for several reasons!  hope she is better now
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: sheryl on June 05, 2009, 15:23:46 PM
How old is she now Lisa?  I am glad that she is recovering.
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 15:25:38 PM
 14 weeks old  :Luv:
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Dawn F on June 05, 2009, 15:27:14 PM
they aren't supposed to rehome them until 13 weeks - are they a proper breeder??
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 15:27:55 PM
 she is finally eating cat food and her poo is darker but still abit loose and when she farts she has no control , but other than that she is a happy playfull kitty
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 15:29:45 PM
 im the second owner of the kitty since she has bzeen born she was sold but owner returned her to the breeder  a s she got ill
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Dawn F on June 05, 2009, 15:33:27 PM
what age did they rehome them then
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 15:36:14 PM
 after her first injections i think
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 15:55:09 PM
 i know its my own fault for not checking the breeder out first but when i seen the picture's of her and heard about her being ill , i just wanted to make her all better and give her lots of cuddles  :)
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Daisymac on June 05, 2009, 16:23:01 PM
when she farts she has no control

Oh err,  could be messy   ;D
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 16:27:01 PM
 it is daisy , but luckly i have woodfloor and she sleep on an old blanket that can be washed , She our little baby  :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Gillian Harvey on June 05, 2009, 16:42:15 PM
after her first injections i think

So she would have only been 9 or 10 weeks old when the breeder sold her to the first owner then? - which means she didnt even finish her course of injections? That doesnt sound like a good breeder,  but the person she was sold to is just as bad, passing the kitten on just because it got sick - anyway its good she's got her forever home now with you Lisa.  :)
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 16:45:19 PM
 i know amber cat people make me mad sometimes , but im determined to make her better  :)
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: sheryl on June 05, 2009, 16:48:51 PM
Her tummy problems could also be diet related - maybe try a grain free diet and some raw meat (Gillian is the expert on raw feeding)  I know this is hard to believe but with one of my Bengals tap water gives her the runs so they are all on bottled/filtered water.

I am sure that with your TLC she will get better, at least now she can have some stability and settle down properly in her forever home.
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 16:57:00 PM
 raw meat??? and whats the bzdkest food for kittens that grain free ? also i boil the water let it cool and give to my kitty and my elder cat :)
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Kirst on June 05, 2009, 17:05:46 PM
Sounds like a rubbish breeder to me - Mine wouldn't let me have my Birmans until they were 13 weeks  - and she phoned me to make sure they went for all their jabs.

At least your little one has a fantastic forever home with you! :Luv2: :Luv2:
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 05, 2009, 17:14:59 PM
 thankyou kirst  :)
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on June 05, 2009, 23:24:23 PM
My posh cats have been rescues, first an NFC and now my Maine Coone
They were/are not overbred, rescues are just so rewarding.
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 05, 2009, 23:29:35 PM
Have you tried Lacto B to help their tums...............I swear by it now cos half a scoop in frantas food does the trick when his probs return.......he had very powerful abs and it sorted him out in a few days although his tummy a little week now
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 06, 2009, 10:37:47 AM
 where can you get lacto B from??? :)
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Daisymac on June 06, 2009, 11:10:50 AM
The more I think about this the stranger it seems,   have you taken the little one to the vet at all ?,  it seems strange to me for a breeder to give a pedigree kitten away for nothing just because it has the squits,  but then again maybe I am being a bit harsh.  I dont want to panic you or anything but the breeder could have sold the kitten for over £200 but she gave her away to you for nothing.  I would definitely take her to the vets and explain what has happened,  it is quite damaging for a kitten to have the sqits for so long as they dehydrate at enormous speed (within a day !) you also have to consider your other cat that I see in the pictures,  I am no expert on cat illnesses but could it be catching ? 
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 06, 2009, 11:26:11 AM
 She is alot more solid than she was when we first got her , at first she was like water , we have took her off the meds the breeder was giving her as they were out of shelf life , She is now eating , which she wasnt before and she is drinking loads of cooled boiled water and she weighs 2 pound . She runs around playing all the time and seems very content now , but do i know what you are saying about the money side of it , I did think that myself at first  but the breeder was in tears when she left my home as she said she just wants a loving home for her and someone who will give her the care she needs , her being passed from home to home was not good for her and maybe added to  potia's problems as stress doesn't help does it?
My other cat rosie is perfectly fine tho , not eating as much as she did before we got portia but i think that is because she has never been around another cat before and needs to get used to her being around , Her poo is solid and i have been keeping a very close eye on her for any signs of illness . :)
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 06, 2009, 11:31:11 AM
 just to add the breeder has said she would have her back if i ever felt i could not look after her and she keeps in touch by email asking how she is  :)
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls on June 06, 2009, 12:11:18 PM
Aww so cute at that age  :Luv2: glad she is on the mend  :)
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 06, 2009, 12:16:03 PM
 aww thanks ccmacey , She is getting there slowly and is our little baby  :Luv:
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Mark on June 06, 2009, 12:42:08 PM
I think it would still be wise to get the vet to give her the once-over  :hug:
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: moiramassey on June 06, 2009, 12:42:58 PM
Hi Lisa

It sounds like the little one has a good home with you.

Has she seen a vet? I always take my kittens to be registered with my vet and have a checkup. How far is she thorugh her course of innoculations?

I has the same probem with Mitzi, a Siamese/Bengal cross kitten, when I got her. If I were you I would:

1. Monitor her progress by weighing her. I used to use elecronic kitchen scales because they allow you to measure grams or ounces.

2. Find a good quality kitten food that seems to suit her and stick to it, not even changing the variety, for a couple of months.

3. Lacto B would be a good idea as it would repopulate her gut with 'good' bacteria that have been killed by the antibiotics. Other possibilities are to go to a vet and get Pro-Kaolin. Another alternative is goats milk live yoghurt (not cows milk yogurt). This is available in he UK in at least two of the big supermarkets.

I'd give up on the idea of registering her if I were you.

I have only started to feed grain free lately. Mine are now on Orijen dried (they prefer the 6fish but it is very rich) with a small feed of Applaws canned in the evenings. However, Mitzi's problem was solved feeding her Hills kitten pouches (Ocean Fish variety), which wouold not have been mine first choice but it worked!
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 06, 2009, 12:57:38 PM
 ok thankyou for the advice , i will give them a try  :)
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: Debsymiller (Rufus' mum) on June 06, 2009, 14:55:46 PM
She's gorgeous- very pretty and I'm please she is getting a bit better. I really do think a once over at the vets to find out what's causeing her tummy troubles could really help. It may be something that can be sorted quickly to avoid problems in later life. It's horrid for them when they have dogy tums (and us!  :sick:) so the vet will definitely be able to help.
Well done for giving her a forever home  :hug:
Title: Re: pedigree papers
Post by: lisa281 on June 06, 2009, 15:30:22 PM
 she has had no squits today so far , Think i might be finally getting somewhere  :)