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Re: help! :(
« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2009, 11:33:34 AM »
yeh taz has been done befre i even go thim,so hes ok...and obv pooka has just been spayed yesterday so we will see how it goes!

hopfully the feliway will move things along and restore the balance :shy:
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2009, 11:31:43 AM »
Sorry if this has already been mentioned (I'm ill so bear with me) but is Taz neutered? My only advice is get em both done if they're not already, wait about six weeks for the horemones to die down and you'll have a different pair of cats. If Taz has been snipped hopefully Pooka's spay will chill them both out a bit. Best of luck  :)
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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2009, 23:38:49 PM »
aw sorry to hear about your poor moggy :( bless..

well hopefully itl work some sort of magic,cos taz is still attacking pooka and me, i just cant get over this :'(

i just dont want to have to get rid of him...i love him too much..but i cant just let pooka get bullied and beaten up either..
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2009, 23:36:34 PM »
LOTS of people on Purrs use feliway and it's general fairly successful. I currently have one for a couple of reasons; a) Sage is a bit of a scaredy cat and it seems to make her calmer and b) Mog has dementia so it usually makes her a little better....well, on her good days. On her bad days, nothing seems to help. :tired:
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2009, 21:52:58 PM »
well atleast im not the only one :sneaky:

i have another thread called "sereneum" any members used that product? im realy keen to know if it works?

and i want to know if any members have used the feliway plug in? iv ordered them and i hope they arent a waste of money! :shocked:
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2009, 21:48:51 PM »
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:I think the "dressed" term has cropped up before from one of the other members north of the border and I recall it causing a bit of hilarity and confusion then!
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2009, 21:04:10 PM »
sorry! i didnt mean to confuse anyone :)

its just what iv always called it,since i was young... :evillaugh:

ok,must remember to call it spay next time :tired:
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2009, 21:02:43 PM »
I thought it was just me who had never heard of 'dressed'. It had me really confused but I was too embarassed to say anything LOL. You learn something new every day on purrs.
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« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2009, 20:57:26 PM »
im scottish!! im from edinburgh!

iv just been brought up to call it that :scared:

lol thats what my mum always called it lol aw well! dressed,spayed its all one ! ;D

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Re: help! :(
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2009, 20:55:47 PM »
I am glad you said that Dabs because I wanted to say it ages ago...  :rofl:

I take it you are not British then, Jecca? We've never heard the term 'dressed' to describe a spay or neutering.  :innocent:
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« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2009, 20:55:04 PM »
hahahah :evillaugh:

that would be amusing mind you :innocent:

yeh spayed lol
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2009, 20:52:29 PM »
Quote from: jecca on August 11, 2009, 11:52:32 AM
hey i iz back :)

the pre op check is befre pooka getting dressed. to make sure shes ok,in good health etc for getting the operation tomorrow.

she has been outside,but its just in my garden,she cant get out of it so i know shes been safe and in no danger of getting pregnant. but im wanting her to get dressed for health reasons and so she doesnt go into heat again cos it realy must annoy her.

im gonna have a wee look at they trays now :wow:

I was a bit confused about the dressed comment and was thinking of cats in ball gowns for some strange reason. Yes, I know, but it has been a long and tiring day!  ;)

Anyway I understand now, you mean speyed!
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2009, 16:59:51 PM »
Quote from: jecca on August 11, 2009, 11:52:32 AM
she has been outside,but its just in my garden,she cant get out of it so i know shes been safe and in no danger of getting pregnant. but im wanting her to get dressed for health reasons and so she doesnt go into heat again cos it realy must annoy her.


Think that may be part of your problem then.  ;) Your other cat has picked up on the raging hormones, hence the changed behaviour towards her, which in turn has prob confused her and may be the reason she's pooing on the carpet. Hopefully the op will sort things out, although don't expect miracles straight away, it takes a while for the hormones to calm down after neutering.  ;D
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2009, 11:52:32 AM »
hey i iz back :)

the pre op check is befre pooka getting dressed. to make sure shes ok,in good health etc for getting the operation tomorrow.

she has been outside,but its just in my garden,she cant get out of it so i know shes been safe and in no danger of getting pregnant. but im wanting her to get dressed for health reasons and so she doesnt go into heat again cos it realy must annoy her.

im gonna have a wee look at they trays now :wow:
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2009, 10:05:11 AM »
The doormat does indicate a behaviouial/stress issue, your vets may have a nurse that could advise you
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2009, 08:27:24 AM »
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2009, 07:56:22 AM »
Out of interest, you mention she has a pre operation check - what is that for?
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2009, 06:59:45 AM »
Hiya Jecca,

I don'k know whether you've since this link in our Guides it also has further links if you scroll down to the bottom including one which tells you all about Feliway:

http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php/topic,26577.0.html
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2009, 22:26:36 PM »
I know it just made me laugh - I had a mental picture of a covered litter tray with a mad, army assault course style surrounding....
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2009, 22:23:21 PM »
Quote from: JackSpratt on August 10, 2009, 22:08:37 PM
Quote from: Pinkbear (Julie) on August 10, 2009, 22:07:37 PM
How about trying a doomed tray? Nice and private.  :naughty:

Could be a privacy thing. A doomed tray, eh Julie? :rofl:

We're all doomed, Captain Manwaring....  :rofl: :rofl:

I meant domed of course.  ;)

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Re: help! :(
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2009, 22:18:25 PM »
Here is the section with our guides on and certainly worth having a look

http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php/board,63.0.html
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2009, 22:18:13 PM »
i will look into this tomorrow as im off to bed just now,

just want to say a massive thank you to everyone for your advice and help! :Luv2:

i love this forum :innocent:

anyhoo,have a good night everyone and THANK YOU!

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Re: help! :(
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2009, 22:13:27 PM »
As others have said it is important to clean the area correctly ..... as far as your cat is concerned.  Normal cleaning solutions do not get rid of the smell that attracts them back to toilet in same place.  Look at links that have been posted.  It may all seem a faff but it's worth it to stop it recurring.

BTW.  Ask vet about this problem by all means but, if Feliway/Zylkene suggested, buy it online.  I got 30 Zylkene capsules from vet for £18.63 and then bought another 30 online for £10.80.  Hate to think how much the difference would be on the Feliway.

Zylkene is a supplement rather than a drug which is supposed to chill out your cat.  Difficult to tell if it's working as I'm giving it to Dinah who stays out alot (her choice entirely as has 24/7 access) so she does tend to sleep when she comes in anyway as she s very active.

I got mine from Pet Vet Care Online   www.petvetcare.co.uk  

The Feliway product imitates natural pheromones that again are aimed at chilling out your cat.  The plug in (plugs into any electrical socket) takes a while to take effect but the spray is more immediate.  I got the spray for £12.34.  I have to say I do rate the Feliway product.

I only started using the spray on Friday and so far have only had 1 pee in bath.  That sounds bad!  You know what I mean!  :evillaugh:
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2009, 22:13:03 PM »
Don't use just soap and water to clean. Get to PAH and pick up a bottle of simple solution. It's in a White bottle and had a picture of a cat on it. It's fab stuff and is an enzyme based cleaner.
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2009, 22:08:37 PM »
Quote from: Pinkbear (Julie) on August 10, 2009, 22:07:37 PM
How about trying a doomed tray? Nice and private.  :naughty:

Could be a privacy thing. A doomed tray, eh Julie? :rofl:
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2009, 22:07:59 PM »
You can get both products Rosella mentioned online. (www.vetuk.co.uk are pretty good - and some of the rescues have links on their sites so they get a little financial contribution when it's used.)

Have both cats just recently started going outside? You have to remember that they'll have figured out the territory issue and now their territory is bigger so it might take them some time to get things balanced out again. :hug:
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2009, 22:07:37 PM »
This sounds like a privacy thing to me. A hallway is a very busy place. There's no way my two would use a tray where they could suddenly be disturbed.  :-[ How about trying a doomed tray? Nice and private.  :naughty:
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2009, 21:56:01 PM »
whats feliway? and where could i buy it?
and the tablets,what exactly do they do to the cat?

just any general info on these products would be great :)

thanks for everyones advice so far! :innocent:
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2009, 21:51:30 PM »
If stress related:

Feliway plug in
Feliway spray area that is being soiled twice a day and then, as suggested by Gill, put a food bowl (no food in it) where she normally soils
Could try Zylkene capsules sprinkled on her food to chill her out too or perhaps on Taz's food?  Not a drug so can buy without prescription.
Can you not separate trays as much as possible to give her different pee/poo areas (we have trays in bedrooms)

Certainly need to put down something to protect carpet.  You can get rolls of plastic carpet protector until she breaks the habit.

I'm currently having similar problems but mainly involves bathroom tiles which are easier to clean
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2009, 21:45:09 PM »
hmm right, but there have been times iv caught her doing it on the hall carpet and taz has been outside? or do you think hes scared her off from using the trays?

she has a pre operation check tomorrow at the vet so i could metion it then? :scared:

im just trying to think where to put the the other litter tray... :scared:(i live in a small one bedroom flat) my kitchen is tiny.. :'(

i feel realy bad for pooka, i just wish i knew what changed taz's attitude towards her.
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2009, 21:39:11 PM »
Quote from: jecca on August 10, 2009, 21:34:35 PM
right well,to clean the area i use soap and water first then 1001 stain remover for carpets after..

i dont know why she would be stressed? :scared: shes just became an outdoor cat,which is obv a big change for her,but shes been doing this befre he went outdoors...

my other cat taz has been a little different with her as of late tho,he used to cuddle her etc but now he hits her and spits at her?

i have no idea what has changed his behaviour towards pooka..maybe thats why shes stressed out...

but i dont know how i could take way the stress.. :(

I think that you have just answered your own question, she is being bullied by your otehr cat. He could be guarding the litter trays and bullying her while she is on them, which will out her off.

I know that you said you can only put the trays in the hall, but if they are together then Taz will seek her out, the poor gilrl will then have no option but to mess.

I would suggest giving some thought to firstly having her checked out by a vet to make sure that there is no problems healthwise and then look at putting another tray elsewhere for her to use and see if that improves the situation.

You can ease her stress, it just needs a bit of forethought that is all.  ;D
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2009, 21:37:36 PM »
Have you recently changed to a different cat litter ?- i had this with Sophie a couple of times a few years ago - i had tried Worlds Best and she didn''t like it - i went back to the usual one and she was fine.
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2009, 21:34:35 PM »
right well,to clean the area i use soap and water first then 1001 stain remover for carpets after..

i dont know why she would be stressed? :scared: shes just became an outdoor cat,which is obv a big change for her,but shes been doing this befre he went outdoors...

my other cat taz has been a little different with her as of late tho,he used to cuddle her etc but now he hits her and spits at her?

i have no idea what has changed his behaviour towards pooka..maybe thats why shes stressed out...

but i dont know how i could take way the stress.. :(
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2009, 21:22:31 PM »
Middening as it is known is in response to the cat being stressed and trying to reassure herself that all is well. The habit needs to be broken and fast before it becomes ingrained.

FAB offer some good advice.

http://www.fabcats.org/behaviour/stressed/info.html
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2009, 21:19:33 PM »
How are you cleaning the area?

Look in our guides section and there is one for how to clean the area right.

Once cleaned I would put down a piece of plastic and put her food dish in the middle and then sit back and watch what happens.
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2009, 21:08:28 PM »
wow,thats mental..but kudos to you for putting up with it :evillaugh:

i realy dont know what to do.. :(  its realy frustrating me,and i dont want to be annoyed at pooka :(

somebody heeeelllpp :scared:

p.s-shes just done it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shocked:
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2009, 20:56:25 PM »
Yes really I just have learned to "deal" with it  :tired:

I have tiles in the kitchen so I just have to use antibacterial spray, never had the problems with a carpet  :shy:
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2009, 20:49:26 PM »
oh my god :shocked: realy??

hmm im wondering would the stain remover im using be making it any worse?

is there any spray i could use to deterr her from going back to poo there :scared:

it is realy weird, they have just become outside cats and i wish she could just poo outside instead of the hall carpet! its driving me up the wall!!!! >:(
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Re: help! :(
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2009, 20:47:27 PM »
I dont know how to help or what to suggest, I have a 6 year old cat and he has pooed on the kitchen floor every day of his life  :naughty:  :sick:

Maybe get a washable mat enough to cover the hallway?  :)
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2009, 20:44:05 PM »
hey,looking for some help!

ok il explaiin everything first, my cat trays are both in my hallway(only room i have in the house for the trays) and they are cleaned daily etc.

recently pooka has been pooing beside the front door on the carpet :doh: it is realy realy annoying me now,and i dont know how to stop her from doing it!

the trays are cleaned and poop scooped EVERYDAY and properly cleaned and emptied every 2nd day or so. so i cant see it being that. i just realy need her to stop it,i live in a rented flat(which is allowed pets) bt i have a cream carpet and i dont want it ruining the carpet :scared:

she does it everyday though and im at the end of my tether!!!

any advice would be much appreciated!
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