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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2009, 13:40:29 PM »
I do hope that Mistys results show what the problem is so that she can be treated  :hug: :hug:

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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2009, 13:36:03 PM »
Way to go Misty man!  Chicken's great isn't it

Horrid when puds don't eat right Stuart. Fingers crossed for blood results.

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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2009, 13:32:10 PM »
Best of luck with the bloods and hope you can sort something out soon
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2009, 08:00:10 AM »
Fingers crossed for the bloods - shame they take so long though, if I have bloods done on a Thurs night I get the results either Sat morning or Mon, and they are sent off to the lab.
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2009, 17:54:49 PM »
Ok, I phoned this morning and got Misty's appointment brought forward cause I'm now getting worried  :scared:
Just back from the Vet's, Bloods were taken, and are being sent away for Full test's - Thyroid, Kidney's and they will also be
doing a red-white cell count to see if there are any infection's in his system, the vet say's the small nodule thingy on His neck
is not His Thyroid and Guesses it may be a build up of Calcium (as it is not attached to anything, and is Hard) at Misty's age
The vet think's it wouldn't be worth poking about with it, but just keep an eye on it incase it get's larger, I agreed with that.
Teeth are not too bad, vet had a proper look at the back molars and there is a slight build up of Tartar and some inflamation
but nothing really major that would cause him to slow his eating in-take, she did say his heart rate was nearly 200bpm, but I
pointed out that we have just travelled 27 mls to a strange envoiroment, (He hates the car) and would that not also be a
contributing factor?? she agreed there was a high possibility it was.
should get His result's back in about a week' time.

to make up for putting ma wee Mannie through all this I bought Fresh Chicken Breast Fillet's (with a view to cooking them)
when I got home I gave him his normal food " which he just licked the gravy off again  :( I read a post on here recently about
giving our furbabes Raw meat, so I thought I would try Him with a small Piece of Chicken, Holy  :censored: He's a new Cat !!
couldn't get enough of it  :wow: well he ate almost half of one breast in one sitting, just worried now and hope he keep's it
down.

currently Mr Misty is snoozing in the spare bedroom

Just hope the result's are kinda positive when I get them and at least find out why He isn't eating as good  :(
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2009, 11:49:51 AM »
Hi Desley, Misty's mouth looks fine, but that will be another thing I'll get the vet to check out
He's got his appointment on tuesday
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2009, 08:09:58 AM »
Fingers crossed. How is his mouth?
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2009, 01:02:46 AM »
 :thanks: janeyk
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2009, 20:01:16 PM »
Sounds like your vet could be right Stuart they do usually have a huge appetite, poor boy I can understand the CRF too Schui has that and has had weight loss and wouldn't eat, I know they aren't a good thing with the complaint but my vet allows him steroid injections so far just the one last July has helped him enormously touch wood.  Good luck with journey  :hug:
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2009, 13:18:45 PM »
Ok, our vet has a small office in town, and went down to see her yesterday, I didn't bother taking Misty with me cause to take bloods
it has to be in the main surgery. I explained that I have noticed Misty is loosing weight and told her about all the other symptoms, not
eating etc,etc (although he has been very chippa these last few days :) )
Will be making an appointment to get more bloods done and check His Thyroid aswell, but the vet thinks that His CRF condition may be
taking it's toll (as she said usually with Thyroid problems they have a ravenous appetite and eat like a Horse) Misty's not doing that  :(
also bloods will be going to the same lab in Aberdeen so's they can compare previous result's to determine if Misty's CRF is getting worse
 :( :( :(
not looking forward to the journey either, cause Misty doesn't travel well and surgery is 27miles away :(
Will keep you's updated

 
« Last Edit: January 07, 2009, 13:21:28 PM by Stuart (Misty's Dad) »
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2009, 11:32:57 AM »
Best to get it checked, hope all is well.  My vet cautions me about trawling the net, says it can scare you

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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2009, 10:33:01 AM »
Fingers crossed Stuart
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2009, 09:30:30 AM »
Will be keeping an eye on this thread and hope it's nothing Stuart.  Tom had 3 fatty lumps and a few "warts" as he got older.

Could that be all it is with Misty?

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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2009, 23:25:01 PM »
hmmm ok, have had a look on the net and youtube and have learned a few things
I haven't said anything about this (in denial) but Misty does have a small nodule thingy on one side of his neck, which was just
noticed about a week ago, about the size of a small ball bearing "about 2-3mm's diameter"
will now be taking him to the vat a.s.a.p

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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2009, 14:22:43 PM »
When Layla was losing weight the vet suggested cat milk too but being the fusspot she was, she ran away from the bowl! BUT he did say that if you really wanna boost calories then the kitten milk is very effective as it has more calories than standard adult cat milk.

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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2009, 13:04:36 PM »
I use the Pets at Home milk for mine, as it is normally on offer so works out a bit cheaper.
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2009, 12:59:17 PM »
I hope he continues to drink it because it should help keep the calories up, my 2 wait for theirs every morning after their food and I buy different types,  Whiskas and Felix mainly then they are getting a bit a change of taste.
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2009, 12:32:34 PM »
I started giving Misty Whiskas cat milk last week, and he's lapping it up. I used to buy it before (when I was trying to get Hamish to eat something) but
the both of them kinda went off it, But He seems to really like it now, it's times like this I wish cats were more like dogs in the eating department !!!
Dog's will eat anything!!!!

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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2009, 08:33:35 AM »
Schui lost weight when his CRF progressed but giving him at milk every day seems to have helped put some back on - he also had a steroid injection (for his sinus problems) because he wouldn't eat.  I do think the milk helps loads though because Byron was a very thin cat but giving her milk has also increased her weight infact she is getting a bit tubby now.

If your cat is getting thin one of the first thing vets usually do is feel their thyroid and then do tests.
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2009, 01:21:43 AM »
The bloods he had tested were sent to aberdeen, I did get the option of inhouse testing but was told that if sent to aberdeen it would be more accurate
I will be getting in touch with my vets to see about getting more bloods done and shall mentio Hyper-T as well

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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2008, 10:34:57 AM »
R is right, not all vets routinely test for hyper-t, no idea why as it is a very common illness in cats over the age of 10.
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2008, 09:24:49 AM »
Hi Stuart

I think you'll find cats of 18 certainly lose weight but tbh I would be concerned about going from 5.4 kg to 4.1kg over just a year.  I invested in scales for Tom and weighed him regularly so realised quite quickly we had a problem. Initially thought hyperT (weight loss and increased heart rate) but was something different altogether.  At that age regular blood tests are very useful.  I'm not sure that thyroid test is always part of the general geriatric tests vets do.  If you are going to test for HyperT, I would suggest insisting on sending away for test rather than in house as I discovered in house test for HyperT was unreliable and was going down the wrong road for a quite a while which was dangerous as Tom reacted badly to HyperT meds.

Best of luck to you both and hope Misty is enjoying himself meanwhile.

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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2008, 20:36:57 PM »
Best of luck with getting to the bottom of it

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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2008, 18:56:41 PM »
If he hasnt had bloods done in a while i would get them run, a simple case of needing meds if its his thyroid, the sooner its treated the better as it can cause other issues eg blindness
Hes lost a reasonable amount over the year so your vet can advise what would be best to feed him  :hug:


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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2008, 13:07:41 PM »
A year ago, Misty was a stocky boy too, just dont know if this weight loss is age related or to do with the CRF or other  :scared:

Thanks for all your advice folks, I have taken it all onboard  ;)
and I'll see about that Renalzin Mark

Thanks again  :)
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2008, 12:08:32 PM »
Charlie is 5.63kg but a big stocky boy!

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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2008, 11:14:07 AM »
You might have better luck than me with it but VetUK sell something called Renalzin which is a phosphorus binder. You could add it to regular adult food. I read that food in gravy is higher calorie than jelly. You could also try mixing some biscuits in with the wet. Clapton eats some dry along with mostly wet.

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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2008, 10:54:55 AM »
I think weight will depend on the build of the cat. Oscar is 4.6kg, very lean and quite athletic looking but still only a medium sized cat. The vet says he's at a perfect weight but wouldn't want him to get any lighter where as Rufus who is only 7 months and definately with a lot of growing to do is 3.9kg, lean and healthy looking and the vet thinks he will end up a slim and athletic 6kg+ cat (Not overweight at all, just a big boy!) where as Jasper is 3.5kg, good weigt for him and we can't see that changing. It really does depend on the cat as they all have ther own 'perfect weight'.  
If you are worried then it's definately wise to check him out with the vets and see if the vet feels he is underweight, is concerned about thyroid. You could also try and see if you can find a low-phospherous food which is for adults rather than seniors as it may help him to keep his weight on.

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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2008, 10:53:07 AM »
I would get him re-checked at the vets to be on the safe side, and maybe do monthly weigh in's to make sure he isn't losing too much - that way they can also advise on food, I can't have Molly on purely senior food cos she loses too much weight.
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2008, 00:16:16 AM »
yes but I can feel He's lost weight  :(
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Re: what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2008, 23:13:54 PM »
I also thought the correct weight for an average cat was 4kg

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what would be a normal weight ???
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2008, 23:01:22 PM »
Misty will be 18 in May next year, He was diagnosed with CRF over a year ago, He was weighed at the time, and as far as I remember He was 5.4kg
since I have been home this time He feels thinner and I can feel His bones on His spine, specially at His backend, Hip Bones  :(
It has not helped by being round at my Sisters where Her 2 Kittens are now Young fully filled out males, and I am also Cat watching my mothers cat
Korky atm, and He's just a big Fat petted Lump (Likes nothing better than waiting till you sit down, then He'll jump up and Headbutt you square in the face
before flopping down in a heap on top of you " Belly Up"  :Luv:)
then I come home to my old mannie, and feel his bones  :(
I weighed Him tonight and He's coming in at 4.1kg so He's lost 1.3kg over a year. I am feeding Him on Senior foods because they are lower in phosphates
but also lower in calories
I will be keeping a closer eye on His weight in future and see how it goes, but I was just wondering has anyone any ideas on how to beef Him up again?? , or
would this just be the scheme of things ? He had a full blood test done when He was diagnosed with CRF but there was no mention of Thyroid problems
at the time

any suggestions welcome

P.S. other than this He's Fine  :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
« Last Edit: December 29, 2008, 23:02:09 PM by Stuart (Misty's Dad) »
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